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Title Direct non-payment - Anne Gilbert/VT
8/26/2005 6:25:10 PM (2496 views)
Re: Title Direct non-payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2005 3:10:47 PM (2910 views)
Re: Title Direct non-payment - Ted Lannon/MA
9/6/2005 4:55:03 PM (3165 views)
Re: Title Direct non-payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2005 6:17:04 PM (3045 views)
Re: Title Direct non-payment - Lois Morgan/AZ
9/6/2005 10:13:33 AM (2973 views)
Re: Title Direct non-payment - Jacqueline Costa/RI
9/6/2005 3:24:46 PM (3160 views)

Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - David Kossman/MO
8/25/2005 3:16:53 PM (2753 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Robert Franco/OH
8/25/2005 4:22:52 PM (3506 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - David Kossman/MO
8/25/2005 4:39:48 PM (3471 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Robert Franco/OH
8/25/2005 5:23:39 PM (3223 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/25/2005 6:46:54 PM (3234 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/7/2005 3:46:42 AM (2894 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Robert Franco/OH
10/7/2005 12:44:27 PM (3090 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Patrick Scott/IL
8/25/2005 7:05:29 PM (3233 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/25/2005 7:32:06 PM (3323 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/25/2005 9:33:34 PM (3150 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/26/2005 9:02:34 AM (3226 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/26/2005 11:51:44 AM (3236 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/26/2005 2:28:31 PM (3168 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2005 8:05:28 PM (3202 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Jay Duncan/MO
8/28/2005 6:57:05 PM (3195 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Scott Perry/PA
8/28/2005 7:43:29 PM (3142 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Jay Duncan/MO
8/29/2005 7:31:14 AM (3081 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - James "Lin" Toney/MS
8/26/2005 10:48:04 PM (3239 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Donna Grady/NC
8/27/2005 7:50:27 PM (3212 views)
Re: Mortgage over 30 years old, but no release - Scott Perry/PA
8/27/2005 8:08:16 PM (3140 views)

Back to school - monica froese/ME
8/23/2005 4:16:43 PM (2436 views)
Re: Back to school - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2005 4:39:58 PM (3175 views)
Re: Back to school - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/23/2005 6:04:12 PM (3221 views)
Re: Back to school - Robert Franco/OH
8/24/2005 8:32:11 AM (3049 views)
Re: Back to school - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/24/2005 9:37:44 AM (3065 views)
Re: Back to school - Wendi See/SC
8/24/2005 9:32:33 PM (3153 views)
Re: Back to school - James "Lin" Toney/MS
8/24/2005 10:04:10 PM (3034 views)
Re: Back to school - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/25/2005 7:43:34 AM (3102 views)
Re: Back to school - Robert Franco/OH
8/25/2005 10:01:26 AM (3052 views)
Re: Back to school - Robert Franco/OH
8/25/2005 9:54:47 AM (2946 views)
Re: Back to school - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/25/2005 9:38:24 PM (3034 views)
Re: Back to school - Anne Gilbert/VT
8/26/2005 5:51:16 PM (2983 views)

Liability Disclaimer - Danielle Nelson/WI
8/23/2005 2:01:59 PM (2514 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2005 4:14:02 PM (3369 views)

I have mixed opinions on these types of disclaimers.  First, I am not sure they will hold up in all situations or in all jurisdictions. 

Second, I haven't yet decided for myself if it is entirely ethical to attempt to disclaim professional liability.  A part of our job is to provide reliable information.  If we fail to do so, and our customer incurs a financial loss, shouldn't we be responsible for it?

On the other hand - I don't feel the fees in our field compensate us for the amount of liability we incur.  I find it shocking that an abstractor would be expected to be held liable for hundreds of thousands of dollars in potential liability for a $45 fee.

Although title insurance covers against loss from other causes, it has been reported that most of the claims are for searching error.  To me this indicates that the liability for searching error should be worth more than half of the title insurance premium.  This theory seems to be supported by the agency agreements that most title agents have with their underwriters.  Those agreements hold the agent responsible for searching error and a typical split of the premium gives 70% to 85% to the agent.

The problem is that many agents are passing the liability along to their abstractors by requiring them to carry E&O insurance, but they aren't providing any additional compensation.  This is what makes it so profitable to outsource title work to independent abstractors.

While I believe that there are many cases where the underwriter does not attempt to collect a loss from an agent, and likewise, many agents do not attempt to collect losses from their abstractors - I believe it is becoming more common to do so.

E&O insurers are encouraging agents to make sure that their abstractors carry E&O insurance for just this reason.  The fact that it is possible to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars from the abstractor in return for a search fee of $45 is frightening.

So, I am not sure how I feel about disclaimers.  I have a feeling that clients would not like to see these disclaimers and I think it could affect business.  From the case in PA,
PA Court Upholds Liability Limitation in Title Abstract, it is clear that the advice to agents is to object to them.  However, the potential loss from a claim certainly makes it an appealing option for the abstractors.

Personally, I do not use disclaimers on our searches, however, the thought has crossed my mind.  I think we should either be able to charge appropriately for the liability we incur or we should not be expected to incur the liability. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Liability Disclaimer - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/23/2005 5:18:18 PM (3243 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - David Bloys/TX
8/23/2005 5:31:15 PM (3224 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - William Pattison /CA
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Re: Liability Disclaimer - Kelli Gorman/TX
9/1/2005 1:14:08 PM (3031 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/1/2005 1:52:10 PM (3038 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Kelli Gorman/TX
9/1/2005 10:38:48 PM (3066 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2005 6:11:19 AM (3133 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Scott Perry/PA
8/23/2005 5:42:49 PM (3221 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/23/2005 6:45:13 PM (3149 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Anne Gilbert/VT
8/26/2005 6:13:07 PM (4162 views)
Re: Liability Disclaimer - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/27/2005 10:24:42 AM (3149 views)

The Jordan Group - Any experience with any of these affiliated companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
8/22/2005 5:41:51 PM (2572 views)
Re: The Jordan Group - Any experience with any of these affiliated companies? - Loretta Reed/MD
8/22/2005 11:00:41 PM (3054 views)
Re: The Jordan Group - Any experience with any of these affiliated companies? - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2005 11:16:51 AM (3046 views)


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Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/19/2005 8:45:16 PM (2477 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Scott Perry/PA
8/20/2005 10:24:55 AM (3191 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/20/2005 11:13:37 AM (4557 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/20/2005 1:08:34 PM (3178 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Scott Perry/PA
8/20/2005 2:58:57 PM (3138 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/21/2005 8:39:17 PM (3323 views)
Re: Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - ginger galloway/OH
8/22/2005 9:17:07 AM (3075 views)

NALTEA committees... - Robert Franco/OH
8/18/2005 12:25:11 PM (1877 views)

thanks anyway - Kim Haase/MT
8/18/2005 12:18:26 PM (1914 views)

VIEWS - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/18/2005 9:28:38 AM (2533 views)
Re: VIEWS - Jay Duncan/MO
8/18/2005 9:46:42 AM (3323 views)
Re: VIEWS - Robert Franco/OH
8/18/2005 10:04:00 AM (3277 views)
Re: VIEWS - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/18/2005 10:56:28 AM (3245 views)
Re: VIEWS - Jay Duncan/MO
8/18/2005 11:22:10 AM (3227 views)
Re: VIEWS - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/18/2005 1:48:09 PM (3033 views)
Re: VIEWS - Robert Franco/OH
8/18/2005 2:37:02 PM (3207 views)
Re: VIEWS - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/18/2005 4:07:10 PM (3049 views)
Re: VIEWS - Patrick Scott/IL
8/18/2005 11:03:59 PM (3109 views)

You asked for it... - Jay Duncan/MO
8/17/2005 5:05:10 PM (1981 views)

fees - Lynn Hammett/SC
8/16/2005 7:53:23 PM (2630 views)
Re: fees - Edward Mastrianni/CT
8/16/2005 9:49:18 PM (3285 views)
Re: fees - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/16/2005 10:36:52 PM (3296 views)
Re: fees - Scott Perry/PA
8/16/2005 11:16:36 PM (3307 views)
Re: fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/17/2005 9:44:08 AM (3227 views)
Re: fees - Robert Franco/OH
8/17/2005 11:03:24 AM (3267 views)
Re: fees - Jill Kissell/IA
8/22/2005 8:17:56 AM (3215 views)

The royal shaft! - Robert Franco/OH
8/16/2005 1:51:13 PM (2719 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/16/2005 1:57:05 PM (3276 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Wanda Steudel/OH
8/16/2005 4:59:38 PM (3362 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Robert Franco/OH
8/16/2005 6:12:40 PM (4677 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
8/17/2005 10:56:59 PM (3216 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Wanda Steudel/OH
8/18/2005 11:03:46 AM (3308 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Mary Mitchel/NY
8/18/2005 12:49:48 PM (3237 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Denald McCarthy/MA
8/22/2005 10:48:48 AM (3115 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Robert Franco/OH
8/22/2005 11:29:18 AM (3150 views)
Re: The royal shaft! - Donna Grady/NC
8/27/2005 8:02:31 PM (3089 views)

Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/16/2005 9:56:01 AM (2702 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - monica froese/ME
8/16/2005 3:06:57 PM (3405 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - David Bloys/TX
8/16/2005 7:07:41 PM (3401 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Scott Perry/PA
8/16/2005 6:32:51 PM (3398 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/23/2005 2:38:05 PM (3273 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Robert Franco/OH
8/23/2005 3:49:46 PM (3286 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Scott Perry/PA
8/23/2005 7:11:59 PM (3216 views)
Re: Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/23/2005 9:05:17 PM (3286 views)

Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/15/2005 9:42:28 PM (3355 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 9:51:42 PM (3276 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/15/2005 10:04:58 PM (3249 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 11:16:04 PM (3315 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Glenda Hodge/TN
8/16/2005 2:21:52 AM (3266 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/16/2005 8:54:48 AM (3329 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/16/2005 9:51:48 AM (3311 views)
Re: Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/16/2005 9:55:48 AM (3190 views)

County Indexing Systems - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/15/2005 4:29:36 PM (2460 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 6:36:21 PM (3072 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - Scott Perry/PA
8/15/2005 10:44:51 PM (3295 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 11:05:23 PM (3095 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - David Bloys/TX
8/16/2005 12:04:31 AM (3133 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/16/2005 9:40:34 AM (3248 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - Helene/GA
8/25/2005 11:59:50 PM (3093 views)
Re: County Indexing Systems - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/26/2005 11:06:17 AM (3045 views)


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