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Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/23/2005 6:45:29 PM (2471 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2005 6:52:38 AM (2277 views)
Re: Shamrock Title, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/25/2005 6:32:18 PM (2175 views)

Is Anyone Interested In? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/22/2005 5:15:21 PM (2316 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/24/2005 8:01:28 AM (2090 views)
Re: Is Anyone Interested In? - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/25/2005 4:18:22 PM (2129 views)

TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/21/2005 12:23:11 PM (2437 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/21/2005 12:45:37 PM (2612 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Barbara Bennett/IN
7/21/2005 7:05:00 PM (2493 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Tammy Knight/MO
7/21/2005 7:30:37 PM (2455 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Marilyn Parker/IL
7/22/2005 12:22:59 PM (2366 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/22/2005 2:30:07 PM (2399 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Christy Rathbun/CT
7/22/2005 11:36:01 PM (2343 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - margaret sedy/CA
7/23/2005 7:33:29 PM (2540 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 1:36:55 PM (3259 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2005 2:03:30 PM (2298 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Danielle Nelson/WI
7/25/2005 2:17:03 PM (2289 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA....email update - Victoria Moate/NJ
8/9/2005 2:29:49 AM (2266 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Ellen Maher/MI
12/12/2005 7:04:34 PM (2158 views)
Re: TITLESEARCH USA - Julie Jasiunas/WI
12/12/2005 8:30:37 PM (2156 views)

...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 3:34:59 PM (2393 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/19/2005 4:19:14 PM (2150 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/19/2005 5:29:17 PM (2098 views)

Ellen,

I am not sure that I understand the question. If you are asking if an attorney's affidavit is curative in all instances, I would have to say no. I have seen attorney's affidavits on the land records which provide additional information to make it easier for the abstractor to follow. I ran into one of these recently in the New London land records. Someone back in the l920's included the wrong legal description in the deed. For the next 70 years no one picked up on the mistake. In the mid l990's some attorney caught the mistake, and put an affidavit on the land records to explain what had happened, and that the surviving heirs of the title holder executed deeds with both the correct legal description and incorrect legal description. The affidavit is not curative. It is only explanatory. It is the operation of law and the conduct of the title holder's in the chain that determine whether there is a basis for an exclusion vis a vis the passage of time. There are instances in which a title holder's affidavit may be curative (i.e. release of an old mortgage by affidavit when the mortgagee can not be found). However, this is by operation of statute. As to whether the passage of time creates an exclusion, this also is determined by law (i.e. statute of limitations on collection of tax liens).

If I were performing the search I would note all pertinent information in the abstract in order for the closing attorney and title insurer to reach an informed decision as to whether the passage of time has given rise to an exclusion. I would think that they would need to have this information in order to make this determination. If I am acting in the capacity of an abstractor I merely report the information as completely and correctly as possible. I do not fix the defects in title.

If I am acting in the capacity of a closing attorney, I would want to know if the title insurance carrier is willing to insure over the matter. If not, I think I would be looking for a release of the encumbrance or some other remedy at law acceptable to the title insurer sufficient to make them comfortable with insuring it.

If I were representing the buyer, I think I would recommend that they pass on the deal if marketable title could not be produced by the seller. If I were representing the seller, I would recommend that they have a word with their title insurer if title were not marketable.

I have seen some real estate transactions grow into nightmare litigation in which the buyer is suing for the refund of his deposit, and the seller is countersuing for specific performance of the sales contract. The issue being whether the defect in title is such that it renders the title unmarketable. At this point, it is the ruling of the court not the opinion of the attorney that
determines whether the title is marketable. Opinons of attorneys are not law. They are explanations or interpretations of the law. The court and the legislature are the parties entrusted with making law.

In so far as the low esteem in which attorneys are held, that appears to be nothing new. There is a great line from one of Shakespeare's plays. I forget which one. It may be "Richard the Third"..."The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers." So it appears the the low opinion dates back centuries. It is an undeserved reputation. The attorneys I work with are honorable and represent their clients to the best of their abilities.

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Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/19/2005 5:56:39 PM (2164 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/19/2005 11:13:11 PM (2141 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Deborah Manion/VA
7/20/2005 11:09:13 AM (2124 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 11:48:53 AM (2123 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Robert Franco/OH
7/20/2005 3:13:39 PM (2186 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/20/2005 3:45:27 PM (2140 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
7/20/2005 7:28:37 PM (2082 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Patrick Scott/IL
7/20/2005 10:13:09 PM (2126 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/21/2005 11:21:07 AM (2082 views)
Re: ...ummm...dont be offended... - Scott Perry/PA
7/21/2005 3:37:47 PM (2190 views)

a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/17/2005 12:18:26 AM (2215 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Robert Franco/OH
7/17/2005 12:59:29 AM (2345 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 12:45:53 PM (2215 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 1:22:43 PM (2119 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 4:27:14 PM (2133 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 9:57:29 PM (2102 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - David Bloys/TX
7/17/2005 2:56:13 PM (2134 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 3:31:10 PM (2170 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/17/2005 4:01:26 PM (2077 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/18/2005 9:40:15 AM (2110 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Donna Grady/NC
7/18/2005 11:47:23 PM (3618 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/19/2005 10:47:56 AM (2070 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/21/2005 10:57:53 AM (2150 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/29/2005 3:51:07 PM (2099 views)
Re: a better way to email doc? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/29/2005 7:14:45 PM (2057 views)




NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 1:40:32 PM (2207 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/15/2005 2:43:54 PM (2001 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 3:15:06 PM (2103 views)
Re: NALTEA Certification - Jodi Earls/MI
7/15/2005 3:17:14 PM (2082 views)

An instant messaging idea.. - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/15/2005 2:11:08 AM (2179 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 9:06:41 AM (2327 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Ellen Malloy/MO
7/15/2005 9:33:22 AM (2167 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Patrick Scott/IL
7/15/2005 10:45:42 AM (2153 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Robert Franco/OH
7/15/2005 11:24:14 AM (2132 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Galavantin Avatar/CA
7/15/2005 2:20:13 PM (2159 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Mike/PA
7/15/2005 2:53:29 PM (4008 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2005 2:11:47 PM (2220 views)
Re: An instant messaging idea.. - Michael Frank/TX
7/18/2005 3:41:36 PM (2037 views)

Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 4:16:31 PM (2556 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Jonathan Figliuolo/NJ
7/13/2005 5:15:36 PM (2335 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:40:37 PM (2303 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2005 5:20:31 PM (2289 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 6:36:27 PM (2264 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/13/2005 7:11:07 PM (2251 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 7:27:24 PM (2275 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Alan Hirsch/NY
7/23/2005 11:31:37 AM (2243 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/25/2005 12:44:40 AM (2197 views)
Re: Marc Davis Strikes Again! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2005 10:08:44 AM (2145 views)

National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/12/2005 9:02:02 PM (2308 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - Patrick Scott/IL
7/13/2005 11:17:14 AM (2090 views)
Re: National Title Department Promotion - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/13/2005 3:38:34 PM (2063 views)

Frustrated Abstractors Should Speak Out - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
7/12/2005 4:40:01 PM (1783 views)

Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/12/2005 1:27:07 PM (2215 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Robert Franco/OH
7/12/2005 1:39:41 PM (2513 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2005 2:58:27 PM (2526 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/12/2005 4:17:05 PM (2415 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Matthew DeLand/NY
7/12/2005 4:23:07 PM (2232 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2005 5:34:18 PM (2207 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2005 6:09:23 PM (2187 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2005 7:23:24 PM (2227 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/12/2005 10:31:22 PM (2222 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Rachel Malone/PA/PA
7/20/2005 5:34:11 PM (2148 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Steve Schneider/IN
7/13/2005 1:53:34 PM (2149 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/13/2005 5:12:24 PM (2180 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/13/2005 10:51:26 PM (2221 views)
Re: Anyone frustrated lately . . .??? - Patrick Scott/IL
7/14/2005 11:09:15 AM (2189 views)

Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
7/12/2005 8:30:18 AM (2694 views)
Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2005 8:52:41 AM (2494 views)
Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
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Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Aimee Raines Raines/VA
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Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Has Anyone had experience with these two companies? - Matt Papsch/MD
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E & O - Wendi See/SC
7/11/2005 8:29:33 PM (2223 views)
Re: E & O - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: E & O - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: E & O - Glenda Hodge/TN
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Re: E & O - Norean/GA
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...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2005 6:11:00 PM (2279 views)
Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2005 6:53:15 PM (2283 views)
Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2005 7:29:18 PM (2011 views)
Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Douglas Gallant/OH
7/12/2005 6:46:10 PM (2134 views)
Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Jonathan Figliuolo/NJ
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Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/14/2005 3:47:12 PM (2084 views)
Re: ...and in the "Dumb Question Department"... - Ruth Seal/FL
7/16/2005 5:25:15 PM (2060 views)

Accusigning - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2005 5:58:21 PM (2194 views)


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