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Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3385 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (6013 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (9615 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (6030 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (6798 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (6037 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (6048 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (6138 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (6428 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3261 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5850 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (5941 views)

Excellent topic for discussion...  It is unfortunate that abstractors do not have an efficient course of action when clients fail to make payments.   There are several options, but they all have some level of difficulty or risk associated with them.

LEGAL ACTION - As Kevin Ahern has pointed out, the law provides for remedies in such cases.  However, the legal fees associated often make the use of the court system cost prohibitive.  Even if you win, you are still in a position of having to expend further efforts collecting on a judgment.

COLLECTION AGENCIES - This often is unsatisfying because even if the collection agency is successful, they are going to take a large portion of the amount collected.  Sometimes, collection agencies offer services with up-front fees that could be wasted if payment is not obtained.

RANSOM - Some abstractors have held work hostage for payment of delinquent accounts.  This can be risky.  In the case where the abstractor holds a filing, if an intervening lien is filed while the abstractor is holding the documents I would imagine that there would be some liability involved.  This also affects the borrower, or homeowner, and not just the client.  I never recommend holding filings - either file them or return them to the client immediately.  Holding new search orders is not as risky in this regard, as long as you let the client know that you are not completing the order until their account is paid, however, they are likely to cancel the order and place it elsewhere; which is ineffective in trying to collect a delinquent account.

PUBLIC POSTING OF NON-PAYMENT - This is what has been referred to in the previous post by Tammy.  It costs the abstractor nothing, and could hurt the non-paying client by making it difficult for them to find other abstractors willing to take the same risks.  It seems to have been effective, as we have seen on this forum.  However, one of these days it could spawn a lawsuit by the client for libel.  Source of Title has been threatened with lawsuits in the past for not removing these posts and I cringe every time I see one.  However, this is a public forum and Source of Title disclaims any liability for the content of the posts.  The forums are not censored and the person posting the information accepts full liability for the content.  Still, I do not encourage this type of posting. 

BLACK-LISTING - Creating lists of "dead-beat" clients has been suggested many times on this forum.  It would serve the purpose of letting other clients know what clients have a reputation of not paying their abstractors, however, there is no good way to verify the information.  We have all had clients that we have had good experiences with that others complain about, and vice versa.  Even more so than a single posting on the forum, this type of behavior could result in a lawsuit. I certainly would not be willing to participate in such a list.

Unfortunately, there is no good way to collect from a client that is just not willing to step-up and pay for the work they order.  Due to the nature of the business, abstractors are in a very weak bargaining position.  There are always going to be other abstractors willing to take on new business and accept the risk of not being paid.

Cut clients off early, before they owe too much.  Don't do any more work for them and consider it a learning experience.  If it is truly a large balance, it may be worth pursuing legal action.

I wish I had better advice... if anyone else does, please share it.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5765 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/12/2005 5:06:42 PM (5798 views)
Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5802 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 10:02:17 PM (5781 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5867 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5805 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5851 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (5672 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (5762 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (5694 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (5743 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (5773 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5818 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (6157 views)

Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:28:49 AM (3398 views)
Re: Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:29:48 AM (5673 views)
Re: Erevna? - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM (6025 views)

United Document Services of East Northport - JENNIFER HOLZMAN/PA
10/11/2005 1:24:41 PM (3278 views)
Re: United Document Services of East Northport - Scott Perry/PA
10/11/2005 7:24:54 PM (5657 views)

Abstractor Educational Workshops!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/7/2005 8:06:03 AM (3858 views)




Are you going to vote? - Jay Duncan/MO
10/7/2005 8:03:07 AM (2981 views)
Re: Are you going to vote? - Robert Franco/OH
10/7/2005 3:44:19 PM (5577 views)

WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/6/2005 11:33:25 PM (3323 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Lou Legaspi/IL
10/7/2005 7:30:22 AM (5554 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - monica froese/ME
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Kelli Gorman/TX
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - george Hubka/MI
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Helene/GA
10/8/2005 12:36:52 AM (5400 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Anne Gilbert/VT
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Kelli Gorman/TX
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - David Jenkins/PA
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Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/9/2005 6:41:11 PM (5455 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/10/2005 3:31:03 PM (5531 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 9:01:36 PM (5377 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/10/2005 9:45:44 PM (5369 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - David Bloys/TX
10/10/2005 11:03:28 PM (5376 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 11:15:25 PM (5294 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/10/2005 11:13:11 PM (5163 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 10:57:24 AM (5314 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/11/2005 9:49:57 PM (5253 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 11:14:15 PM (5186 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 12:03:15 AM (5235 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 9:01:09 AM (5211 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 9:59:41 PM (5257 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/13/2005 9:39:27 AM (5147 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 10:43:45 AM (5030 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/13/2005 6:27:31 PM (5121 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/14/2005 9:10:26 PM (5103 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 11:38:36 PM (5176 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/15/2005 2:17:00 PM (5201 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - george Hubka/MI
10/11/2005 9:09:22 PM (5488 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/11/2005 10:50:27 PM (5182 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/11/2005 11:29:28 PM (5177 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 8:46:58 AM (5165 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Robert Franco/OH
10/11/2005 1:20:16 PM (5327 views)
Re: WORKING CONDITIONS - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 7:38:19 AM (5191 views)

ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/6/2005 1:17:26 AM (3261 views)
Re: ATA - Kurt deVries/FL
10/6/2005 11:21:11 AM (5471 views)
Re: ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/6/2005 4:09:20 PM (5495 views)
Re: ATA - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/7/2005 6:18:04 AM (5635 views)
Re: ATA - Iris Buchman/FL
10/7/2005 8:08:38 AM (5347 views)
Re: ATA - michelle foskey/GA
10/24/2005 2:05:34 PM (5469 views)

Be Clear with your Client - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/5/2005 5:13:39 PM (3053 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - David Bloys/TX
10/5/2005 5:36:10 PM (5269 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Be Clear with your Client - David Bloys/TX
10/5/2005 8:26:52 PM (6927 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Scott Perry/PA
10/5/2005 10:30:11 PM (5348 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Kurt deVries/FL
10/6/2005 11:25:11 AM (5294 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Robert Franco/OH
10/6/2005 11:38:24 AM (5193 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/6/2005 1:02:20 PM (5288 views)
Re: Be Clear with your Client - Larry Crooks/OH
10/10/2005 5:01:33 PM (5217 views)

2005 Independent Examiner Report Weekend Interviews - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
10/4/2005 11:12:02 AM (2674 views)

PLAT MAPS? - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/4/2005 9:24:49 AM (3185 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
10/4/2005 9:33:53 AM (5383 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - David Bloys/TX
10/4/2005 11:24:48 AM (5216 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/4/2005 11:32:32 AM (5182 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/4/2005 12:14:21 PM (5153 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - george Hubka/MI
10/4/2005 11:08:16 PM (5304 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Helene/GA
10/4/2005 11:31:56 PM (5100 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/4/2005 11:46:46 PM (5132 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Robert Franco/OH
10/5/2005 12:37:04 AM (5287 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Helga Hinck/NH
10/5/2005 12:02:56 PM (5208 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Robert Franco/OH
10/5/2005 12:08:45 PM (5326 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/5/2005 3:25:11 PM (5163 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/5/2005 5:13:32 PM (5097 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - Matthew DeLand/NY
10/7/2005 9:46:53 AM (5344 views)
Re: PLAT MAPS? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/14/2005 9:53:38 PM (4967 views)

Hello - Ricky Farrow/FL
10/3/2005 7:30:38 PM (2561 views)

Resolution to India Call - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Resolution to India Call - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/5/2005 11:04:09 AM (5010 views)

First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - george Hubka/MI
10/3/2005 8:10:57 AM (3221 views)
Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Norean Cashwell/GA
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Wanda Steudel/OH
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/5/2005 10:43:11 AM (5189 views)
Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - Charles Chen/MD
1/12/2006 11:43:59 AM (4915 views)
Re: First Title & Escrow (Info) ??? - James Smith/CA
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OUr New WebSite is UP!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/30/2005 12:53:40 PM (3075 views)
Re: OUr New WebSite is UP!!! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: OUr New WebSite is UP!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: OUr New WebSite is UP!!! - Norean/GA
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