Robert, I dont like the certification program, but I am only one.  I heard this from many, many people at the VB conference, but that is no reason, none, not to support NALTEA. NALTEA is more than a certification program!! Maybe there is too much focus on this particular program.  Should NALTEA put their efforts in another direction and focus on several different subjects?  It seems to me, that, the certification is the most important, most talked about item.  Lead me in another direction!!