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[+] fees - Lynn Hammett/SC (6 replies)
8/16/2005 7:53:23 PM (2550 views)

[+] The royal shaft! - Robert Franco/OH (9 replies)
8/16/2005 1:51:13 PM (2641 views)

[+] Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Lisa Ramsey/TX (7 replies)
8/16/2005 9:56:01 AM (2645 views)

[+] Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO (7 replies)
8/15/2005 9:42:28 PM (3271 views)

[+] County Indexing Systems - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH (7 replies)
8/15/2005 4:29:36 PM (2405 views)


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[+] Naltea Clearwater? Oh Yeah! - Kurt deVries/FL (2 replies)
8/15/2005 12:15:36 PM (2258 views)

[-] Ever had this happen to you? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID (29 replies)
8/13/2005 5:27:40 PM (2343 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/13/2005 6:33:43 PM (3051 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 9:10:36 AM (4393 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
8/14/2005 11:01:55 AM (2985 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/14/2005 1:14:49 PM (3012 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 2:51:52 PM (3019 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/14/2005 7:15:22 PM (3039 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 9:24:14 PM (2886 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/14/2005 10:10:39 PM (2991 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 6:24:02 AM (3003 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 7:43:38 AM (2918 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 9:37:39 AM (2765 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 6:44:46 PM (2814 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 7:28:15 PM (2838 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 9:08:55 PM (4136 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/16/2005 5:52:36 AM (3020 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/17/2005 9:57:47 AM (4054 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/17/2005 10:09:42 AM (4203 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Scott Perry/PA
8/14/2005 6:01:13 PM (2993 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 6:55:39 PM (2952 views)
Thank you so much!!! - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
8/14/2005 10:23:17 PM (2952 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Spencer Kinsey/AR
8/15/2005 12:11:54 AM (2900 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 10:07:07 AM (2767 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Robert Franco/OH
8/15/2005 10:04:06 AM (2708 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 10:23:25 AM (2778 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Robert Franco/OH
8/15/2005 10:52:42 AM (2751 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 12:07:39 PM (2881 views)

All of what you have said is true. Getting enough participation to make it work financially may be a problem. Many of the abstractors and signing agents on this board are small operations in a tight cash position. This is all part of which needs to be explored.Last year when we looked into this, the response was rather lack luster. That may not have changed.

However, with the current trend of rising expenses and declining fees, something needs to be done before all that remains are the unqualified and uninsured abstractors. In so far as my firm is concerned, we still perform abstracting for those clients that are reasonable in their requirements and prices, but we may need to focus on other areas than abstracting in the future to generate revenue. The prognosis for the current trend is not good.

In so far as operating the new LLC at a profit is concerned, I think everyone here is focusing their attention on abstractors' fees and the issue of how the new LLC is going to pay the higher abstractor fee, but remain competitive in the market place. If the LLC is operating as a title company, it makes its money from the processing fees after payment of expenses. I do not think I have ever seen a HUD 1 form on which the abstractor's fee and signing agent's fee has not included a mark up for the title company as part of its processing fee. The issue of whether this is permisable still seems to be unresolved by RESPA.

There is also a lot of profit built into the porcessing fees charged to the lender after the payment of other expenses. The abstracting and signing agent's fees are only a small portion of their expenses. In most cases if the title company paid the abstractor and signing agent what it is showing on the HUD 1 form, the rest of its processing fees would remain intact with a healthy profit margin. 

How is the proposed buy in going to be made attractive to an existing  small title company?   ...good question. I suppose a lot of it will depend on how fast it wants to grow, and how badly they need the infusion of cash to accomplish this.

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Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Matthew DeLand/NY
8/15/2005 12:19:50 PM (2756 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 12:25:46 PM (2828 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Matthew DeLand/NY
8/15/2005 3:13:32 PM (2847 views)

[+] Update to My Post of 08.05.2005 - Scott Perry/PA (1 reply)
8/13/2005 11:18:39 AM (2223 views)

Police Mortgage? - Kevin Horan/PA
8/12/2005 11:17:13 AM (1931 views)

[+] Next NALTEA Conference - Kevin Horan/PA (5 replies)
8/12/2005 11:09:01 AM (2231 views)

[+] New Interest - Gladys Brown/NC (4 replies)
8/11/2005 5:59:50 PM (2233 views)

[+] HELP PLEASE! Fee problem - J Nisonger/CA (2 replies)
8/10/2005 5:07:11 PM (2283 views)

Policy Manual - Wendi See/SC
8/10/2005 1:05:21 PM (1945 views)

[+] looking to expand - Gladys Brown/NC (6 replies)
8/10/2005 10:16:39 AM (2268 views)

[+] Thoughts?? - Michaela Urban/OH (7 replies)
8/10/2005 12:51:57 AM (2372 views)


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