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[+] The Jordan Group - Any experience with any of these affiliated companies? - Matt Papsch/MD (2 replies)
8/22/2005 5:41:51 PM (2647 views)

[+] Gasoline Trivia - Who Would Have Thought? - Lisa Ramsey/TX (6 replies)
8/19/2005 8:45:16 PM (2553 views)

NALTEA committees... - Robert Franco/OH
8/18/2005 12:25:11 PM (1933 views)

thanks anyway - Kim Haase/MT
8/18/2005 12:18:26 PM (1963 views)

[+] VIEWS - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR (8 replies)
8/18/2005 9:28:38 AM (2613 views)




You asked for it... - Jay Duncan/MO
8/17/2005 5:05:10 PM (2040 views)

[+] fees - Lynn Hammett/SC (6 replies)
8/16/2005 7:53:23 PM (2732 views)

[+] The royal shaft! - Robert Franco/OH (9 replies)
8/16/2005 1:51:13 PM (2810 views)

[+] Anyone Hear from Jason Sheppard? - Lisa Ramsey/TX (7 replies)
8/16/2005 9:56:01 AM (2787 views)

[+] Gas Prices...here we go again!!! - Jay Duncan/MO (7 replies)
8/15/2005 9:42:28 PM (3463 views)

[+] County Indexing Systems - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH (7 replies)
8/15/2005 4:29:36 PM (2536 views)

[+] Naltea Clearwater? Oh Yeah! - Kurt deVries/FL (2 replies)
8/15/2005 12:15:36 PM (2380 views)

[-] Ever had this happen to you? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID (29 replies)
8/13/2005 5:27:40 PM (2505 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/13/2005 6:33:43 PM (3380 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 9:10:36 AM (4728 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
8/14/2005 11:01:55 AM (3333 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/14/2005 1:14:49 PM (3350 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 2:51:52 PM (3358 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/14/2005 7:15:22 PM (3394 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 9:24:14 PM (3188 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/14/2005 10:10:39 PM (3344 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 6:24:02 AM (3341 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 7:43:38 AM (3206 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 9:37:39 AM (3130 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 6:44:46 PM (3151 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 7:28:15 PM (3180 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/15/2005 9:08:55 PM (4496 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/16/2005 5:52:36 AM (3360 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - David Bloys/TX
8/17/2005 9:57:47 AM (4363 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/17/2005 10:09:42 AM (4521 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Scott Perry/PA
8/14/2005 6:01:13 PM (3342 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/14/2005 6:55:39 PM (3291 views)
Thank you so much!!! - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
8/14/2005 10:23:17 PM (3306 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Spencer Kinsey/AR
8/15/2005 12:11:54 AM (3201 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 10:07:07 AM (3115 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Robert Franco/OH
8/15/2005 10:04:06 AM (3045 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 10:23:25 AM (3091 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Robert Franco/OH
8/15/2005 10:52:42 AM (3103 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/15/2005 12:07:39 PM (3231 views)

All of what you have said is true. Getting enough participation to make it work financially may be a problem. Many of the abstractors and signing agents on this board are small operations in a tight cash position. This is all part of which needs to be explored.Last year when we looked into this, the response was rather lack luster. That may not have changed.

However, with the current trend of rising expenses and declining fees, something needs to be done before all that remains are the unqualified and uninsured abstractors. In so far as my firm is concerned, we still perform abstracting for those clients that are reasonable in their requirements and prices, but we may need to focus on other areas than abstracting in the future to generate revenue. The prognosis for the current trend is not good.

In so far as operating the new LLC at a profit is concerned, I think everyone here is focusing their attention on abstractors' fees and the issue of how the new LLC is going to pay the higher abstractor fee, but remain competitive in the market place. If the LLC is operating as a title company, it makes its money from the processing fees after payment of expenses. I do not think I have ever seen a HUD 1 form on which the abstractor's fee and signing agent's fee has not included a mark up for the title company as part of its processing fee. The issue of whether this is permisable still seems to be unresolved by RESPA.

There is also a lot of profit built into the porcessing fees charged to the lender after the payment of other expenses. The abstracting and signing agent's fees are only a small portion of their expenses. In most cases if the title company paid the abstractor and signing agent what it is showing on the HUD 1 form, the rest of its processing fees would remain intact with a healthy profit margin. 

How is the proposed buy in going to be made attractive to an existing  small title company?   ...good question. I suppose a lot of it will depend on how fast it wants to grow, and how badly they need the infusion of cash to accomplish this.

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Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Matthew DeLand/NY
8/15/2005 12:19:50 PM (3123 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
8/15/2005 12:25:46 PM (3168 views)
Re: Ever had this happen to you? - Matthew DeLand/NY
8/15/2005 3:13:32 PM (3184 views)

[+] Update to My Post of 08.05.2005 - Scott Perry/PA (1 reply)
8/13/2005 11:18:39 AM (2371 views)

Police Mortgage? - Kevin Horan/PA
8/12/2005 11:17:13 AM (2022 views)


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