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research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3703 views)
Re: research time? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 8:07:53 AM (7196 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 12:44:12 PM (7135 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 11:38:23 AM (8629 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 1:04:37 PM (7189 views)
Re: research time? - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:30:14 AM (6831 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 12:13:25 PM (7008 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:57 PM (7082 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 1:08:11 PM (7076 views)
Re: research time? - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:04:35 PM (6774 views)

QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3746 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6713 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:37 AM (6686 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
10/20/2005 7:03:23 AM (6765 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rachel Malone/PA
10/20/2005 7:48:08 AM (6785 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
10/20/2005 8:29:16 AM (6724 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6760 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6443 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 10:21:32 AM (6559 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 10:37:13 AM (6643 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
10/20/2005 10:43:36 AM (6613 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6629 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6680 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6765 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6411 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6570 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6575 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6507 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (6334 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (6184 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (8053 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6441 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (6138 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6406 views)

This is a great subject that we all can benefit from. I have been waiting for a chance to comment on this.Let us consider the fact that almost every service provided in a settlement is linked to or a percentage factor of the selling price/loan amount. The RE commission, the Brokers commission, the title insurance commission. The settlement fees are pretty much set, but those that settle are usually linked to the title insurance anyway, as the prices of the houses go up, the loan amounts go up they all have a pay check that goes "up" ....EXCEPT those of us that are not linked in that fashion-I know here in Virginia ,title examination fees were a factor of the selling price a long time ago, back when the atty's were doing the searches them selves- they nixed that when abstractors took over and then the title insurance commission fees were taking the place of the money they gave up in that deal. It sure would be nice to go back to that. Would help us keep pace with everything without having to worry about the $25 CO searches. Lets say that the avg selling price is $250 K ( which is way low, but for these purposes-) and the title fee was $150.00- that would work out to a title fee of  0.0006 % (which just happens to be 1/100 of the prevailing RE commissions being charged in this part of the country -         $15000.00-) a small price to pay for what they are getting. Let me hear some feedback on this. Will be hard to implement it , I am sure, but at least it would be in line with everything else in the settlement process.

Now on to the fees that are being paid/charged for the title work. Please take some time to read section 8 of RESPA. It clearly defines who should be paid what- If you charge $150.00 for a search- that is what should show up on lines 1102 or 1103 of the HUD. If it is different, then that company that charged the extra amount is supposed to have performed what is preferred to as "core title" work, which is what we do, not a vendor.Here is where the other additional facts comes into play, if they are charging more for what you did, then they are required to carry liability insurance for the difference and are liable for that same percentage of any claim that might arise. There are a number of complications that enter into the situation as a result of the extra charges at this point. First, it is a violation of section 8 and there are sizable fines for doing this..I have contacted HUD and inquired about this practice and they have concurred that these are violations. It seems like most of the title companies just prefer to "look the other way" when doing their audits of the agents and they even do the same thing on in-house settlements. Of course their employees are not able to make any claims like this, but those of us that are independent can do so. I have seen HUD's from some companies that I know only pay $75 per search show $350.00 on both lines 1102 & 1103- that is $700.00 for something they pay $75 for- but, they are then liable for about 90% of any claim that might occur, but I am quite sure they do not know this aspect of this price gouging that is occurring right now.(this company is now on notice that they should stop this practice I would hope-as they solicit companies here on SOT)Oh, and according to HUD , these violations are each subject to $10,000 fines which is another thing they expose themselves to also.

We read on here almost every month about some company or title agent being fined by HUD for RESPA violations-kickbacks, etc. This is just another form of what they are looking into.

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Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (6290 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6393 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (6164 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (6230 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (6231 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (5801 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (6295 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (6252 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (6128 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (5957 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (6298 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (6226 views)

This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3768 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2005 10:44:27 AM (6586 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - John OConnor/IL
10/18/2005 12:21:30 PM (6581 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 7:02:55 PM (8183 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 7:48:12 PM (6407 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 10:06:16 PM (6385 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 11:16:17 PM (6427 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2005 8:15:48 AM (6534 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/19/2005 12:51:25 PM (8023 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 10:59:30 AM (6352 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 12:18:39 PM (6422 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 2:54:56 PM (6187 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 7:15:04 PM (6206 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:30:26 PM (6579 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:34:20 PM (6431 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:20:15 PM (6399 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:48:49 AM (6424 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 11:13:59 AM (6331 views)
Re: Oh, One More Thing, David... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:53:34 PM (6220 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2005 8:43:35 PM (5791 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/27/2005 1:50:55 AM (6121 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2005 8:53:09 AM (6138 views)

New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3685 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 5:20:20 PM (6236 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/17/2005 6:03:20 PM (5921 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:03:31 PM (6165 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/18/2005 8:08:51 AM (6431 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:05:08 PM (6330 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 7:47:53 AM (6180 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 8:01:03 AM (6191 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 8:05:39 AM (6283 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 11:55:28 AM (6241 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:10:49 PM (6169 views)

LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3669 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:02:25 PM (6118 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/30/2005 2:53:02 AM (5702 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
11/8/2005 3:38:02 PM (5629 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/21/2005 11:17:57 AM (5562 views)




Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3476 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 10:40:01 PM (5997 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Kim Cowles/FL
10/17/2005 11:27:03 AM (6172 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Bo Hope/AR
10/17/2005 6:25:38 PM (6288 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:13:32 PM (6173 views)

Fed up! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
10/15/2005 12:36:11 PM (3560 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2005 5:48:16 PM (5810 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2005 4:30:53 PM (5820 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/16/2005 4:54:24 PM (5847 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 12:16:19 PM (6134 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 3:56:17 PM (6077 views)

indexing - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/15/2005 12:31:46 PM (3324 views)
Re: indexing - Scott Perry/PA
10/15/2005 3:07:59 PM (5798 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 6:40:24 PM (5661 views)
Re: indexing - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2005 8:05:07 PM (5644 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 11:18:03 PM (5590 views)
STUCK ON "STUPID" - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 1:06:12 PM (5649 views)
Re: indexing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/17/2005 3:34:21 PM (6009 views)

Questions about VMC's - Donna Grady/NC
10/14/2005 10:32:19 PM (2755 views)

Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3508 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (6219 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (3888 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (5796 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (5872 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (5885 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (5801 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (5782 views)

Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/13/2005 11:05:00 AM (3256 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:50:59 PM (5774 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:36:24 AM (5771 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Jay Duncan/MO
10/14/2005 1:44:49 PM (5767 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Matt Papsch/MD
10/13/2005 5:35:02 PM (5693 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 11:47:19 AM (5918 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:12:08 PM (5729 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Wendi See/SC
10/15/2005 10:24:17 PM (5706 views)

Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3258 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (5598 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (9181 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (5634 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (6334 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (5619 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (5625 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (5670 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (5962 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3167 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5424 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (5475 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5344 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/12/2005 5:06:42 PM (5373 views)
Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5354 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 10:02:17 PM (5354 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5387 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5372 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5373 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (5250 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (5295 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (5234 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (5282 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (5309 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5336 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (5684 views)

Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:28:49 AM (3264 views)
Re: Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:29:48 AM (5275 views)
Re: Erevna? - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM (5546 views)


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