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research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3566 views)
Re: research time? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 8:07:53 AM (6844 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 12:44:12 PM (6781 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 11:38:23 AM (8212 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 1:04:37 PM (6826 views)
Re: research time? - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:30:14 AM (6470 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 12:13:25 PM (6658 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:57 PM (6725 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 1:08:11 PM (6718 views)
Re: research time? - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:04:35 PM (6443 views)

QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3614 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6367 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:37 AM (6358 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
10/20/2005 7:03:23 AM (6435 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rachel Malone/PA
10/20/2005 7:48:08 AM (6443 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
10/20/2005 8:29:16 AM (6391 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6414 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6079 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 10:21:32 AM (6220 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 10:37:13 AM (6324 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
10/20/2005 10:43:36 AM (6286 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6315 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6348 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6422 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6102 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6232 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6224 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6184 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (5998 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (5865 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (7694 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6091 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (5823 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6059 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (5950 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6071 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (5851 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (5913 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (5911 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (5459 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (5968 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (5930 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (5817 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (5615 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (5966 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (5910 views)

This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3628 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2005 10:44:27 AM (6227 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - John OConnor/IL
10/18/2005 12:21:30 PM (6220 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 7:02:55 PM (7813 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 7:48:12 PM (6089 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 10:06:16 PM (6057 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 11:16:17 PM (6105 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2005 8:15:48 AM (6201 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/19/2005 12:51:25 PM (7661 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 10:59:30 AM (6015 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 12:18:39 PM (6088 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 2:54:56 PM (5819 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 7:15:04 PM (5867 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:30:26 PM (6243 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:34:20 PM (6064 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:20:15 PM (6060 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:48:49 AM (6068 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 11:13:59 AM (6004 views)
Re: Oh, One More Thing, David... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:53:34 PM (5857 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2005 8:43:35 PM (5454 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/27/2005 1:50:55 AM (5785 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2005 8:53:09 AM (5808 views)

Michaela,

I understand your frustration. However, we live in a free enterprise system. In your case it sounds like you were able to recover the lost client because the quality of your work was superior to the companies of which you complain. That is a great success story.

In so far as eliminating lower priced competitors is concerned, there is not much that can be done unless the competitors are engaged in predatory pricing, a form of price fixing. There is much case law on this subject. It usually involves large mercantile chains entering a market, and dropping their prices below the market rate temporarily with the intent of putting smaller competitors out of business. However, if a competitor is able to create an legitimately efficient system of competing,  the market variables will determine its success or failure. The market price/quality of service/speed of service more or less regulate which businesses are most competitive and able to survive. There has been much discussion on this board in recent months concerning the increased costs involved in performing a search (primarily gasoline prices). The prices for a search have not risen very much in the past 5 to 10 years. The fees are usually dictated by the clients rather than negotiated with the abstractor in an arm's length transaction of equal bargaining power. It is hard to envision how anyone could further reduce their fees without losing money on the transaction. I suppose the issue is going to be reduced to that of price versus quality. I do not plan to wait around to find out the outcome.

In the case of my firm, we have elected to reduce the amount of abstracting we do in favor of other more profitable lines of endeavor such as real estate closings. We are preparing for the worst. We have already cut loose all problem clients, and replaced them with higher paying closings clients. The closings pay better. There are a multitude of potential clients in the market place with new companies entering the arena everyday to replace the less efficient ones that prove to be non-competitive. Therefore,
the closer has more bargaining power in price negotiation than the abstractor.

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New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3545 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 5:20:20 PM (5855 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/17/2005 6:03:20 PM (5545 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:03:31 PM (5802 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/18/2005 8:08:51 AM (6056 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:05:08 PM (5941 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 7:47:53 AM (5808 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 8:01:03 AM (5836 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 8:05:39 AM (5955 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 11:55:28 AM (5893 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:10:49 PM (5844 views)

LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3524 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:02:25 PM (5794 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/30/2005 2:53:02 AM (5384 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
11/8/2005 3:38:02 PM (5319 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/21/2005 11:17:57 AM (5242 views)


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Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3348 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 10:40:01 PM (5669 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Kim Cowles/FL
10/17/2005 11:27:03 AM (5862 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Bo Hope/AR
10/17/2005 6:25:38 PM (5945 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:13:32 PM (5860 views)

Fed up! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
10/15/2005 12:36:11 PM (3439 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2005 5:48:16 PM (5503 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2005 4:30:53 PM (5496 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/16/2005 4:54:24 PM (5515 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 12:16:19 PM (5850 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 3:56:17 PM (5787 views)

indexing - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/15/2005 12:31:46 PM (3211 views)
Re: indexing - Scott Perry/PA
10/15/2005 3:07:59 PM (5488 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 6:40:24 PM (5347 views)
Re: indexing - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2005 8:05:07 PM (5318 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 11:18:03 PM (5287 views)
STUCK ON "STUPID" - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 1:06:12 PM (5343 views)
Re: indexing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/17/2005 3:34:21 PM (5712 views)

Questions about VMC's - Donna Grady/NC
10/14/2005 10:32:19 PM (2679 views)

Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3405 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (5927 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (3725 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (5480 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (5545 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (5541 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (5465 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (5442 views)

Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/13/2005 11:05:00 AM (3114 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:50:59 PM (5446 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:36:24 AM (5453 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Jay Duncan/MO
10/14/2005 1:44:49 PM (5450 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Matt Papsch/MD
10/13/2005 5:35:02 PM (5390 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 11:47:19 AM (5595 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:12:08 PM (5408 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Wendi See/SC
10/15/2005 10:24:17 PM (5365 views)

Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3129 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (5282 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (8854 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (5312 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (5998 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (5326 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (5314 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (5357 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (5628 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3049 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5138 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (5169 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5035 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/12/2005 5:06:42 PM (5062 views)
Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5054 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 10:02:17 PM (5054 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5072 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5033 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5068 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (4971 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (4992 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (4923 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (4993 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (4996 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5030 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (5398 views)

Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:28:49 AM (3155 views)
Re: Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:29:48 AM (4954 views)
Re: Erevna? - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM (5251 views)


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