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research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3566 views)
Re: research time? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 8:07:53 AM (6844 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 12:44:12 PM (6782 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 11:38:23 AM (8212 views)
Re: research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA
10/20/2005 1:04:37 PM (6826 views)
Re: research time? - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:30:14 AM (6470 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 12:13:25 PM (6658 views)
Re: research time? - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:57 PM (6725 views)
Re: research time? - David Jenkins/PA
10/20/2005 1:08:11 PM (6719 views)
Re: research time? - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:04:35 PM (6443 views)

QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3614 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6367 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:24:37 AM (6358 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
10/20/2005 7:03:23 AM (6435 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rachel Malone/PA
10/20/2005 7:48:08 AM (6443 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
10/20/2005 8:29:16 AM (6391 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6414 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6079 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 10:21:32 AM (6221 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 10:37:13 AM (6324 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
10/20/2005 10:43:36 AM (6286 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6315 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6348 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6422 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6102 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6232 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6225 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6184 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (5999 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (5865 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (7694 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6092 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (5823 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6059 views)

This is a great subject that we all can benefit from. I have been waiting for a chance to comment on this.Let us consider the fact that almost every service provided in a settlement is linked to or a percentage factor of the selling price/loan amount. The RE commission, the Brokers commission, the title insurance commission. The settlement fees are pretty much set, but those that settle are usually linked to the title insurance anyway, as the prices of the houses go up, the loan amounts go up they all have a pay check that goes "up" ....EXCEPT those of us that are not linked in that fashion-I know here in Virginia ,title examination fees were a factor of the selling price a long time ago, back when the atty's were doing the searches them selves- they nixed that when abstractors took over and then the title insurance commission fees were taking the place of the money they gave up in that deal. It sure would be nice to go back to that. Would help us keep pace with everything without having to worry about the $25 CO searches. Lets say that the avg selling price is $250 K ( which is way low, but for these purposes-) and the title fee was $150.00- that would work out to a title fee of  0.0006 % (which just happens to be 1/100 of the prevailing RE commissions being charged in this part of the country -         $15000.00-) a small price to pay for what they are getting. Let me hear some feedback on this. Will be hard to implement it , I am sure, but at least it would be in line with everything else in the settlement process.

Now on to the fees that are being paid/charged for the title work. Please take some time to read section 8 of RESPA. It clearly defines who should be paid what- If you charge $150.00 for a search- that is what should show up on lines 1102 or 1103 of the HUD. If it is different, then that company that charged the extra amount is supposed to have performed what is preferred to as "core title" work, which is what we do, not a vendor.Here is where the other additional facts comes into play, if they are charging more for what you did, then they are required to carry liability insurance for the difference and are liable for that same percentage of any claim that might arise. There are a number of complications that enter into the situation as a result of the extra charges at this point. First, it is a violation of section 8 and there are sizable fines for doing this..I have contacted HUD and inquired about this practice and they have concurred that these are violations. It seems like most of the title companies just prefer to "look the other way" when doing their audits of the agents and they even do the same thing on in-house settlements. Of course their employees are not able to make any claims like this, but those of us that are independent can do so. I have seen HUD's from some companies that I know only pay $75 per search show $350.00 on both lines 1102 & 1103- that is $700.00 for something they pay $75 for- but, they are then liable for about 90% of any claim that might occur, but I am quite sure they do not know this aspect of this price gouging that is occurring right now.(this company is now on notice that they should stop this practice I would hope-as they solicit companies here on SOT)Oh, and according to HUD , these violations are each subject to $10,000 fines which is another thing they expose themselves to also.

We read on here almost every month about some company or title agent being fined by HUD for RESPA violations-kickbacks, etc. This is just another form of what they are looking into.

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Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (5950 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6071 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (5851 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (5913 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (5911 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (5459 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (5969 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (5930 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (5817 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (5616 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (5966 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (5910 views)

This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3628 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2005 10:44:27 AM (6228 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - John OConnor/IL
10/18/2005 12:21:30 PM (6220 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 7:02:55 PM (7813 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 7:48:12 PM (6089 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/18/2005 10:06:16 PM (6057 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 11:16:17 PM (6105 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2005 8:15:48 AM (6201 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/19/2005 12:51:25 PM (7661 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 10:59:30 AM (6015 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 12:18:39 PM (6088 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 2:54:56 PM (5820 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2005 7:15:04 PM (5868 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 12:30:26 PM (6243 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:34:20 PM (6064 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:20:15 PM (6060 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:48:49 AM (6068 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - David Bloys/TX
10/20/2005 11:13:59 AM (6004 views)
Re: Oh, One More Thing, David... - Patrick Scott/IL
10/24/2005 10:53:34 PM (5857 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2005 8:43:35 PM (5454 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Jeanne Mendes/CA
10/27/2005 1:50:55 AM (5785 views)
Re: This has been bugging me . . . - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/28/2005 8:53:09 AM (5809 views)

New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3545 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 5:20:20 PM (5855 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/17/2005 6:03:20 PM (5545 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:03:31 PM (5802 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/18/2005 8:08:51 AM (6056 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2005 5:05:08 PM (5941 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 7:47:53 AM (5808 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Scott Perry/PA
10/19/2005 8:01:03 AM (5836 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Rachel Malone/PA
10/19/2005 8:05:39 AM (5955 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 11:55:28 AM (5893 views)
Re: New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:10:49 PM (5845 views)

LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3524 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Iris Buchman/FL
10/17/2005 6:02:25 PM (5794 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
10/30/2005 2:53:02 AM (5384 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL
11/8/2005 3:38:02 PM (5319 views)
Re: LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/21/2005 11:17:57 AM (5242 views)


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Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3348 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 10:40:01 PM (5670 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Kim Cowles/FL
10/17/2005 11:27:03 AM (5862 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Bo Hope/AR
10/17/2005 6:25:38 PM (5945 views)
Re: Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO
10/19/2005 3:13:32 PM (5861 views)

Fed up! - Spencer Kinsey/AR
10/15/2005 12:36:11 PM (3439 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/15/2005 5:48:16 PM (5503 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/16/2005 4:30:53 PM (5496 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/16/2005 4:54:24 PM (5515 views)
Re: Fed up! - Jay Duncan/MO
10/17/2005 12:16:19 PM (5850 views)
Re: Fed up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 3:56:17 PM (5787 views)

indexing - Douglas Gallant/OH
10/15/2005 12:31:46 PM (3211 views)
Re: indexing - Scott Perry/PA
10/15/2005 3:07:59 PM (5488 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 6:40:24 PM (5347 views)
Re: indexing - Robert Franco/OH
10/15/2005 8:05:07 PM (5318 views)
Re: indexing - monica froese/ME
10/15/2005 11:18:03 PM (5287 views)
STUCK ON "STUPID" - Scott Perry/PA
10/16/2005 1:06:12 PM (5343 views)
Re: indexing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/17/2005 3:34:21 PM (5712 views)

Questions about VMC's - Donna Grady/NC
10/14/2005 10:32:19 PM (2679 views)

Anyone heard of this company.... - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 1:16:42 PM (3405 views)
Re: Anyone heard of this company.... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/19/2005 12:12:30 PM (5927 views)

A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 5:40:44 PM (3725 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:39:16 AM (5480 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Breakell/CT
10/14/2005 9:50:44 AM (5545 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:03:18 PM (5541 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Scott Perry/PA
10/14/2005 5:24:10 PM (5465 views)
Re: A word about prices... - Bo Hope/AR
10/16/2005 1:55:51 AM (5442 views)

Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/13/2005 11:05:00 AM (3114 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:50:59 PM (5446 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Kurt deVries/FL
10/14/2005 9:36:24 AM (5453 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Jay Duncan/MO
10/14/2005 1:44:49 PM (5450 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Matt Papsch/MD
10/13/2005 5:35:02 PM (5390 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Loretta Reed/MD
10/14/2005 11:47:19 AM (5595 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Robert Franco/OH
10/14/2005 12:12:08 PM (5408 views)
Re: Here's my rant - Wendi See/SC
10/15/2005 10:24:17 PM (5365 views)

Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/12/2005 2:14:31 PM (3129 views)
Re: Refaxing - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/12/2005 3:00:22 PM (5282 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:28:29 PM (8854 views)
Re: Refaxing - Larry Crooks/OH
10/13/2005 8:45:13 AM (5312 views)
Re: Refaxing - Danielle Nelson/WI
10/13/2005 11:38:05 AM (5998 views)
Re: Refaxing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 9:55:23 AM (5326 views)
Re: Refaxing - Kelly Chamblee/OH
10/13/2005 1:37:01 PM (5314 views)
Re: Refaxing - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 2:38:26 PM (5357 views)
Re: Refaxing - Susan Matson/MN
10/17/2005 9:31:57 AM (5628 views)

Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:49:24 AM (3049 views)
Re: Rant! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/12/2005 2:02:22 PM (5138 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/12/2005 3:11:23 PM (5169 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 6:03:33 PM (5035 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/12/2005 5:06:42 PM (5062 views)
Re: Rant! - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
10/12/2005 8:21:41 PM (5054 views)
Re: Rant! - Scott Perry/PA
10/12/2005 10:02:17 PM (5054 views)
Re: Rant! - Robert Franco/OH
10/13/2005 12:26:35 AM (5072 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/13/2005 1:22:50 AM (5033 views)
Re: Rant! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
10/14/2005 10:02:18 AM (5068 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:29:44 PM (4971 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 12:48:29 PM (4992 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/13/2005 4:56:56 AM (4923 views)
Re: Rant! - Iris Buchman/FL
10/13/2005 4:44:01 PM (4993 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/14/2005 8:06:47 AM (4996 views)
Re: Rant! - Tammy Knight/MO
10/16/2005 10:08:48 PM (5030 views)
Re: Rant! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2005 8:21:44 AM (5398 views)

Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:28:49 AM (3155 views)
Re: Erevna? - Tammy Knight/MO
10/12/2005 12:29:48 AM (4954 views)
Re: Erevna? - Becky Kale/IL
10/17/2005 2:15:26 PM (5251 views)


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