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Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:21:44 AM (2530 views)
Re: Home exchange - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:05:32 AM (3606 views)
Re: Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:20:13 AM (3799 views)

Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 10:00:03 AM (2709 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:17:19 AM (3642 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/15/2005 8:25:06 PM (3446 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:44:24 PM (3351 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 3:10:19 PM (3174 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 4:47:30 PM (3192 views)
Age stereotyping - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2006 6:08:24 PM (3216 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:41:45 PM (3211 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 8:49:11 PM (5586 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2005 9:00:30 PM (3635 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 9:28:17 PM (3282 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:23 AM (3340 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:44:05 AM (3252 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 8:00:24 AM (3227 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Steve Schneider/IN
12/16/2005 9:11:34 AM (3202 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:34:52 AM (3322 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:49 PM (3287 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:14:46 AM (3372 views)

J T

I am not sure why you are directing your response to me. I have not participated in this thread. As of late I have not been very active on SOT. However, now that you have brought me into the conversation, I will comment.
 
I have no problem with anyone running their business as they see fit. As far as low ball pricing is concerned, whether you can live with it or not depends largely on the region in which you operate. I am not sure how things are done in up state New York. In so far as southern New England is concerned, it is one of the most expensive areas of the country in which to live and operate a business. The problem is exacerbated by the political organization of Connecticut. We have no county government . All land records are recorded in the individual town halls...requiring much travel time on the road. Consequently, the price of gasoline is a major consideration in the pricing of your title search. If someone is charging $25 to $35.00 for a current owner search in this area, he has to be cutting corners somewhere else. What he gives up in the price of an individual search he needs make up in daily volume. In other words in order to cut his price by 50% he needs to double his daily output of work in order to break even. The town halls are open only 8 hours per day with a few exceptions. Some operate on a part time basis. It takes time to drive from one to another. How does one double his daily output of work without sacrificing quality? The time constraints alone do not allow it.

There is a particular business entity that has been critiqued on SOT because of its low pricing and difficult terms of service. I know of at least two searchers in this area that have thrown up their hands in disgust, and rejected further assignments because they could not prossibly provide the requested service at the low rate paid to them.

This was confirmed to me by one of the town clerks recently. She had observed a number of newbie searchers lately in the town of Wolcott, Ct. The town has recently installed a computer (not on line) to store its internal land records. She noticed the newbie searchers rushing in to perform their search on the computer without recourse to the written index, and rushing out the door to their next search. What the newbie searcher failed to consider is that the Town of Wolcott keeps its sewer liens in separate index not included in the computer index. The newbie searcher walked out the door to his next search without even considering the potential for encumbrances in the sewer lien index. The town of Wolcott, Ct is not alone. Because of the way Connecticut is organized, each town has its piculiarities with respect to the way each maintains its land records.

In so far as organizing abstractors into a union or forming their own abstracting/title company to preserve their interests...I have suggested these approaches at various times over the past 18 months. The suggestions met with mixed reviews either because of apathy or the financial inability of the individual searchers to come forward with the capital investment. Consequently, I do not see any remedy to the problem.
The issue will therefore only be rectified through the economic pressure to the market place. It will probably take several years before a determination is made as to whether the cut rate search, outsourced electronic search or the traditional brick and morter search is the most efficient.

In the case of my firm, we have never allowed abstracting to comprise an
unreasonably large portion of revenue. We are in the process of phasing out abstracting even further, and replacing the lost revenue with other more profitable areas of the real estate industry. We still maintain a limited list of abstracting clients who understand that quality costs a little more, and are willing to pay for the difference. We still accept new clients...but on our terms and at our prices.

As with all business in a free enterprise system the most efficient survives. The question is whether efficiency is determined by price or quality of service. If the searcher offering the $25 search can provide a quality product, he has won the game in the best American free enterprise tradition. He has invented the better mouse trap. Those that are unable to compete will need to find better ways to become competitive or find alternate lines of endeavor. Robert recently published an article in which he declared that this business is not longer profitable. He is right. If a searcher is limiting the services he markets to one service alone (abstracting) he is programmed for failure.

I really take offense at your posting. You have misstated my position in this matter.Do not ever condescendingly accuse me of viewing a free market system as an "infringement" on business or a "sour grapes" approach. I do see the death knell of the traditional abstractor approaching, and I have critized the V/M's, title companies and lenders for fostering an environment in which cheap price rather than quality of services was the preferred commodity. My counsel on this board has consistently been for its members to find better ways to compete... value added approach...form their own national/regional title companies...combine their abstracting with other services to lessen the impact of the low ball pricing.

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Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:20:34 AM (3314 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:47:16 PM (3395 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:48:03 PM (3358 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:48:10 PM (3415 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:57:38 PM (3391 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:05:18 AM (3227 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:59:50 PM (3148 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:49:46 PM (3082 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 10:04:56 AM (3315 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM (3150 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:03:18 AM (3201 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:14:43 AM (3123 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:06:02 PM (3140 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:17:23 AM (3212 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:27:18 AM (3155 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/16/2005 12:29:43 PM (3137 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 12:39:46 PM (3241 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 1:41:05 PM (3313 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 10:31:49 AM (3267 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/17/2005 11:09:00 AM (3157 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:17:32 PM (3333 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:33:58 PM (3237 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:19:48 PM (3254 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:09:32 PM (3075 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 12:41:27 PM (3201 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:20:17 PM (3119 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2005 1:06:07 AM (3028 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:02:19 PM (2905 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 9:02:14 AM (3102 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:17:41 PM (2936 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:51:15 PM (2899 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:19:19 AM (2914 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:48:33 PM (2869 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 1:10:58 PM (3042 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:18:50 AM (3073 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 11:28:34 AM (3011 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kathleen Krol/PA
12/19/2005 5:40:25 PM (3026 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 12:11:07 PM (2815 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:07:48 PM (2909 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:18:52 PM (2896 views)

American Legal and Financial Network, First American, Old Republic... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2005 4:25:35 PM (3222 views)

Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2005 4:20:09 PM (2667 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/14/2005 7:19:18 AM (3598 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/14/2005 9:10:29 AM (3687 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/15/2005 7:46:20 AM (3466 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 8:47:58 AM (3596 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 9:40:48 AM (3754 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 9:55:01 AM (3657 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:03:34 AM (3582 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:05:01 AM (3546 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:08:55 AM (3461 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:21:31 AM (3517 views)

Shipping Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/13/2005 12:28:15 PM (2617 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Deborah Manion/VA
12/13/2005 2:16:47 PM (3717 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Robert Breakell/CT
12/13/2005 5:38:14 PM (3598 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:43:45 PM (3732 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:45:01 PM (3719 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:45:24 PM (3422 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/13/2005 6:19:39 PM (3360 views)




Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 1:51:37 PM (2552 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:27:09 PM (3529 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:31:24 PM (3439 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2005 11:53:39 PM (3705 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 12:34:44 AM (3591 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/8/2005 9:21:53 PM (3669 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/12/2005 7:18:07 PM (3622 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/12/2005 7:18:16 PM (3658 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Tammy Knight/MO
12/12/2005 11:58:42 PM (3751 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - The King's Kid/PA
12/12/2005 7:31:06 PM (3567 views)

Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/7/2005 8:07:49 PM (3652 views)
Re: Cookies - Scott Perry/PA
12/7/2005 10:26:54 PM (3552 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/7/2005 11:23:34 PM (3483 views)
Re: Cookies - Tammy Knight/MO
12/8/2005 1:00:04 AM (3496 views)
Re: Cookies - Scott Perry/PA
12/8/2005 7:12:21 AM (3542 views)
Re: Cookies - Jay Duncan/MO
12/8/2005 7:54:37 AM (3733 views)
Re: Cookies - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/8/2005 12:47:43 PM (3560 views)
Re: Cookies - Katrina Harris/GA
12/8/2005 3:15:39 PM (3602 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:21:41 PM (3565 views)
Re: Cookies - Kelli Gorman/TX
12/11/2005 1:41:11 PM (3516 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/11/2005 6:31:17 PM (3659 views)
Re: Cookies - Scott Perry/PA
12/11/2005 6:36:11 PM (3576 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cookies - Tammy Elliott/WA
12/8/2005 11:43:01 PM (3598 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 12:40:49 AM (3499 views)

Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/7/2005 7:00:26 PM (2573 views)
Re: Stories - monica froese/ME
12/7/2005 11:08:19 PM (3740 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/7/2005 11:19:26 PM (3569 views)
Re: Stories - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 12:06:29 AM (3469 views)
Re: Stories - Tammy Knight/MO
12/8/2005 12:58:21 AM (3424 views)
Re: Stories - Deborah Manion/VA
12/8/2005 11:30:59 AM (3525 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:34:03 PM (3557 views)
Re: Stories - Kelli Gorman/TX
12/16/2005 8:56:59 AM (3420 views)
Re: Stories - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/16/2005 6:20:05 PM (3495 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 7:17:40 PM (3357 views)

Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2005 1:07:01 PM (2532 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/7/2005 9:58:10 PM (3547 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Scott Perry/PA
12/7/2005 10:24:27 PM (3528 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2005 11:47:18 PM (3528 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Tammy Knight/MO
12/8/2005 12:53:48 AM (3470 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/8/2005 7:30:11 AM (3503 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2005 9:53:30 AM (3591 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 11:10:15 AM (3497 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 9:15:17 PM (3482 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/9/2005 7:58:43 AM (3349 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 9:38:37 PM (3495 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/9/2005 10:02:03 AM (3509 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 7:18:17 PM (3414 views)

Early Registration Extended to Dec. 14th - Jay Duncan/MO
12/6/2005 3:21:57 PM (3703 views)
Re: Early Registration Extended to Dec. 14th - Robert Franco/OH
12/6/2005 4:06:12 PM (3403 views)

Jay Duncan - Tammy Knight/MO
12/6/2005 12:09:13 AM (2749 views)
Re: Jay Duncan - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 5:40:04 AM (3833 views)
Re: Jay Duncan - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Jay Duncan - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Jay Duncan - Tammy Knight/MO
12/12/2005 2:45:56 PM (3692 views)

Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
12/5/2005 11:24:06 PM (2821 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 11:57:36 PM (3717 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 5:47:48 AM (3909 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Deborah Manion/VA
12/6/2005 12:16:52 PM (3710 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 11:34:28 PM (3489 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2005 12:05:44 AM (3572 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Deborah Manion/VA
12/8/2005 11:36:33 AM (3651 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Scott Perry/PA
12/8/2005 7:05:48 PM (3609 views)

Jim with Contemporary - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 6:49:34 PM (2695 views)
Re: Jim with Contemporary - Jim Girardi/NY
12/6/2005 11:34:07 AM (3548 views)

Greenlink & Wauchovia - Deborah Manion/VA
12/5/2005 4:39:04 PM (3311 views)
Re: Greenlink & Wauchovia - Eboni/VA
12/14/2005 9:29:33 AM (3794 views)
Re: Greenlink & Wauchovia - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2005 3:22:08 PM (3965 views)

Poor Pay/No Pay List - Iris Buchman/FL
12/5/2005 11:01:51 AM (2769 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 12:11:29 PM (3829 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 4:59:47 PM (3889 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 8:30:54 PM (3901 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jan Forster/NC
12/5/2005 8:41:22 PM (3956 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 10:37:25 PM (3991 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - J Nisonger/CA
12/5/2005 11:04:05 PM (3846 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 11:54:25 PM (3837 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 6:06:33 AM (3745 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/6/2005 10:23:46 AM (3845 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Patrick Scott/IL
12/6/2005 12:50:44 PM (3616 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/6/2005 1:39:36 PM (3806 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Iris Buchman/FL
12/7/2005 12:21:37 AM (3896 views)


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