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Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Kurt deVries/FL
11/29/2005 3:38:15 PM (2693 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
11/29/2005 3:53:45 PM (3740 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Rachel Malone/PA
11/29/2005 4:32:52 PM (3736 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - J Nisonger/CA
11/29/2005 4:47:59 PM (3553 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Rachel Malone/PA
11/29/2005 4:52:43 PM (3527 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Patrick Scott/IL
11/29/2005 6:56:14 PM (3579 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/29/2005 7:03:08 PM (3648 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Tammy Knight/MO
11/29/2005 9:49:19 PM (3728 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - J Nisonger/CA
11/29/2005 11:28:06 PM (3698 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
11/29/2005 10:04:37 PM (3638 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/29/2005 11:14:20 PM (3482 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Kurt deVries/FL
11/30/2005 11:14:32 AM (3765 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Rachel Malone/PA
11/30/2005 11:47:49 AM (3706 views)
Re: Newest Phoenix Abstractor!! - Kevin Horan/PA
12/1/2005 1:13:24 PM (3742 views)

Anonymous - J Nisonger/CA
11/28/2005 6:49:50 PM (2798 views)
Re: Anonymous - Robert Franco/OH
11/29/2005 12:23:34 PM (3478 views)
Re: Anonymous - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/30/2005 5:33:57 PM (3473 views)

Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/28/2005 9:04:09 AM (2839 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
11/28/2005 9:44:29 AM (3756 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jay Duncan/MO
11/28/2005 9:58:01 AM (3840 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/30/2005 5:37:15 PM (3797 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Robert Franco/OH
11/28/2005 9:59:51 AM (5762 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/28/2005 10:08:43 AM (3851 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/28/2005 11:58:09 AM (3686 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Deborah Manion/VA
11/28/2005 12:23:00 PM (3675 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/28/2005 1:47:24 PM (3738 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Douglas Gallant/OH
11/28/2005 5:27:35 PM (3551 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - J Nisonger/CA
11/28/2005 6:24:02 PM (3588 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/28/2005 7:58:51 PM (3717 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Helene/GA
11/28/2005 10:46:36 PM (3763 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/29/2005 9:34:57 AM (3598 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/29/2005 8:46:07 PM (3561 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - J Nisonger/CA
11/29/2005 11:47:00 PM (3561 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - J Nisonger/CA
11/30/2005 4:29:56 AM (3534 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/30/2005 1:23:57 PM (3569 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - J Nisonger/CA
11/30/2005 11:22:22 PM (3529 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/29/2005 12:33:18 AM (3663 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - LAWANDA MCMILLIAN/AR
11/28/2005 10:19:38 PM (3829 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Scott Perry/PA
11/29/2005 12:22:44 AM (3749 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/29/2005 12:31:16 AM (3737 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/29/2005 12:45:42 AM (3648 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - J Nisonger/CA
11/29/2005 11:58:05 PM (3604 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/30/2005 8:31:22 AM (3538 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - David Bloys/TX
11/30/2005 8:51:31 AM (3482 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Kelli Gorman/TX
11/30/2005 9:04:36 PM (3531 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Patrick Scott/IL
11/30/2005 11:04:48 PM (3579 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/1/2005 8:29:16 AM (5055 views)
Re: Please Participate! Quick 2 Question Survey :o) - Lynn Hammett/SC
12/14/2005 12:35:44 AM (3537 views)

Check Out Time - David Bloys/TX
11/27/2005 8:01:32 AM (3771 views)
Re: Check Out Time - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/27/2005 1:02:32 PM (3644 views)
Re: Check Out Time - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/27/2005 2:50:22 PM (3758 views)
Re: Check Out Time - Smitty Strickland/SC
12/1/2005 2:59:09 PM (3303 views)
Re: Check Out Time - David Bloys/TX
12/1/2005 9:23:15 PM (5095 views)
Re: Check Out Time - David Bloys/TX
11/27/2005 4:54:26 PM (3705 views)

In Response To The Jason Sheppard Post - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/25/2005 1:01:02 PM (3163 views)
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11/25/2005 5:09:10 PM (3771 views)


Real Title Services


'Twas the Night of Thanksgiving. - Jay Duncan/MO
11/24/2005 4:11:04 PM (2076 views)

Fraud by Title Examiner - Robert Franco/OH
11/23/2005 1:18:43 PM (2764 views)
Re: Fraud by Title Examiner - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/23/2005 3:01:16 PM (3743 views)
Re: Fraud by Title Examiner - Robert Franco/OH
11/23/2005 3:20:10 PM (3741 views)
Re: Fraud by Title Examiner - David Bloys/TX
11/23/2005 4:25:45 PM (3669 views)
Re: Fraud by Title Examiner - Jason Sheppard/PA
11/29/2005 12:52:12 AM (3478 views)

Happy Thanksgiving! - Deborah Manion/VA
11/23/2005 10:21:34 AM (2603 views)
Re: Happy Thanksgiving! - Wanda Steudel/OH
11/23/2005 11:52:49 AM (3748 views)
Re: Happy Thanksgiving! - Robert Franco/OH
11/23/2005 12:16:56 PM (3570 views)
Re: Happy Thanksgiving! - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/23/2005 12:51:39 PM (3584 views)
Re: Happy Thanksgiving! - Tammy Knight/MO
11/23/2005 5:42:38 PM (3485 views)
Re: Happy Thanksgiving! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/24/2005 12:57:11 PM (3603 views)

Anyone have any experience - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/22/2005 4:30:10 PM (2685 views)
Re: Anyone have any experience - Jay Duncan/MO
11/22/2005 5:03:09 PM (3708 views)
ATTN: F. Lee and Jaybird - Scott Perry/PA
11/22/2005 6:07:12 PM (3759 views)
Re: ATTN: F. Lee and Jaybird - Tammy Knight/MO
11/23/2005 12:37:24 AM (3779 views)
Re: ATTN: F. Lee and Jaybird - J Nisonger/CA
11/23/2005 2:03:32 AM (3797 views)
Re: ATTN: F. Lee and Jaybird - Scott Perry/PA
11/23/2005 7:22:25 AM (3714 views)
Re: Anyone have any experience - Susan Pullins/OH
11/25/2005 4:14:49 PM (3586 views)
Re: Anyone have any experience - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/25/2005 6:13:24 PM (3617 views)
Re: Anyone have any experience - John OConnor/IL
11/25/2005 4:48:32 PM (3741 views)

If not...??? - Jay Duncan/MO
11/21/2005 9:28:00 PM (3711 views)
Re: If not...??? - J Nisonger/CA
11/21/2005 10:18:29 PM (3636 views)
Re: If not...??? - Ellen Malloy/MO
11/22/2005 10:20:12 AM (5372 views)

Jay....

While I respect your marketing skills and all the hard work that those in NALTEA has put forward, I think a few things need to be brought forward. As a member, (probably former member - cause I couldn't afford to pay my dues) I was negligent in that I did not have the time, resources or manpower to be a "volunteer". For the past two years, my office has been far enough away from my home that I had to stay "in town" during the week - being away from my husband, whose health is not good - and spend every hour that I could spare working. It takes all of my resources to keep up the equipment, payroll for two employees, and supplies running through our office. We had a couple of good years, but those are gone and now its time to get down to keeping the clients that we have maintained for many years satisfied. There were more independents in the St Louis marketplace than I care to count; and it seemed like every Tom, Dick and Harry who ever had lender experience or worked briefly at a title company, closing company, finance company or car wash - thought it was easy money. And it was to them considering that they didn't know what the hell they were doing. And every vendor out there was just concerned with turnaround and cost. The quality didn't matter - they didn't even know what the word quality meant. Today, some of those independents are getting out. They just can't make ends meet anymore; and I can understand why. After fifteen years in the industry, I have a customer who wants my company to pay for an $86.00 subdivision assessment lien - that has now skyballed into $270.00. I have a number of issues with that - but the fact is, I am an abstractor. Not an examiner. Not a closer. Not a county recorder who maintains a verified and unverified indice that would allow that item to be missed. I collected probably 1/10th of the title insurance fee on that job...and I am expected to pay 100% of the loss. Being in an organization that has numbers behind it might be helpful then. I doubt it. It's my issue with my customer.

As an independent - meaning there is just me and maybe one or two employees - means:

1. I cannot afford to join an organization that charges $200.00 membership fees; in addition to paying E&O coverage, licensing and maintaining current status on all State and Local taxes, not to mention Federal taxes. I don't care if it is deductible at the end of the year - you have to have it rolling in and available to use it.

2. I cannot afford the time off to attend a conference. Heck, I haven't even had a vacation in three years. I spend every spare holiday I can with family and friends. They are the reason I work so hard. And I want to be with them.

3. I cannot afford the expense involved with a trip to Florida. If I could, I would pack my husband and myself and go see friends on the beach for two days and make up for lost time in seeing them. Yes, I do have different priorities. The dollar sign does not guide my life. Love does.

4. I don't have employees to run the show while I take off. It's just me. I am an independent abstractor.

5. A standardization of fees is not possible in this industry. Standardization of search quality - yes. But fees are variable with each County in every State. Procedures vary - costs vary. Each independent has different resources available - either by choice or ability to pay. I have never "dissed" on being undercharged locally. The only thing I am disagreeable with is the quality and experience of the searcher.

As an independent, my concerns lie with reducing the overhead in the form of E&O insurance, helping me obtain health insurance under some kind of group plan thru NALTEA, and education that I do not have access to as a one or two man organization. When I did attend the conference, I got the distinct impression that small companies as opposed to independent abstractors were the majority. And I will wager that many, if not most, of the members of SOT are like me. To be truthful, SOT has been the best tool and the best investment in time and money that I have ever utilized. "If I am not growing" is not part of my motto. My motto is to Maintain. To be the Best that I can be. Technology is important to me, and I can find products thru online searching and new innovations. I am not interested in paying another data source company to acquire data - nor in software programs being promoted thru conferences. I am at the beck and call of any program my clients use. I fulfill their needs. Some of the speakers NALTEA has promoted are the very ones attempting to take away my "independented-ness".

Well, this is just my humble opinion...and I expect there will be responses opposing me. But thats okay. I understand - different folks with different ambitions. That is what life is all about.

Ellen M Malloy
Tri County Abstract Inc.
www.tricountyabstract.net

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Re: If not...??? - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2005 11:10:14 AM (3813 views)
Re: If not...??? - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2005 3:36:17 PM (3750 views)
Re: If not...??? - J Nisonger/CA
11/23/2005 2:06:13 AM (3714 views)

Jason Sheppard... - J Nisonger/CA
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Security Connections - Jessica Jones/NV
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Re: Security Connections - Shannon Blatt/VA
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Re: Security Connections - Brad McCollom/IN
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Re: Security Connections - Tammy Knight/MO
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State & Fed Employee notices - Deborah Manion/VA
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US Government Federal Information Center - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Public Intoxication - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Public Intoxication - David Bloys/TX
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