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Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:21:44 AM (2453 views)
Re: Home exchange - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:05:32 AM (3348 views)
Re: Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:20:13 AM (3515 views)

Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 10:00:03 AM (2628 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:17:19 AM (3352 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/15/2005 8:25:06 PM (3138 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:44:24 PM (3066 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 3:10:19 PM (2879 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 4:47:30 PM (2904 views)
Age stereotyping - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2006 6:08:24 PM (2934 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:41:45 PM (2933 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 8:49:11 PM (5242 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2005 9:00:30 PM (3351 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 9:28:17 PM (2987 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:23 AM (3055 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:44:05 AM (2969 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 8:00:24 AM (2913 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Steve Schneider/IN
12/16/2005 9:11:34 AM (2924 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:34:52 AM (3010 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:49 PM (2975 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:14:46 AM (3059 views)

J T

I am not sure why you are directing your response to me. I have not participated in this thread. As of late I have not been very active on SOT. However, now that you have brought me into the conversation, I will comment.
 
I have no problem with anyone running their business as they see fit. As far as low ball pricing is concerned, whether you can live with it or not depends largely on the region in which you operate. I am not sure how things are done in up state New York. In so far as southern New England is concerned, it is one of the most expensive areas of the country in which to live and operate a business. The problem is exacerbated by the political organization of Connecticut. We have no county government . All land records are recorded in the individual town halls...requiring much travel time on the road. Consequently, the price of gasoline is a major consideration in the pricing of your title search. If someone is charging $25 to $35.00 for a current owner search in this area, he has to be cutting corners somewhere else. What he gives up in the price of an individual search he needs make up in daily volume. In other words in order to cut his price by 50% he needs to double his daily output of work in order to break even. The town halls are open only 8 hours per day with a few exceptions. Some operate on a part time basis. It takes time to drive from one to another. How does one double his daily output of work without sacrificing quality? The time constraints alone do not allow it.

There is a particular business entity that has been critiqued on SOT because of its low pricing and difficult terms of service. I know of at least two searchers in this area that have thrown up their hands in disgust, and rejected further assignments because they could not prossibly provide the requested service at the low rate paid to them.

This was confirmed to me by one of the town clerks recently. She had observed a number of newbie searchers lately in the town of Wolcott, Ct. The town has recently installed a computer (not on line) to store its internal land records. She noticed the newbie searchers rushing in to perform their search on the computer without recourse to the written index, and rushing out the door to their next search. What the newbie searcher failed to consider is that the Town of Wolcott keeps its sewer liens in separate index not included in the computer index. The newbie searcher walked out the door to his next search without even considering the potential for encumbrances in the sewer lien index. The town of Wolcott, Ct is not alone. Because of the way Connecticut is organized, each town has its piculiarities with respect to the way each maintains its land records.

In so far as organizing abstractors into a union or forming their own abstracting/title company to preserve their interests...I have suggested these approaches at various times over the past 18 months. The suggestions met with mixed reviews either because of apathy or the financial inability of the individual searchers to come forward with the capital investment. Consequently, I do not see any remedy to the problem.
The issue will therefore only be rectified through the economic pressure to the market place. It will probably take several years before a determination is made as to whether the cut rate search, outsourced electronic search or the traditional brick and morter search is the most efficient.

In the case of my firm, we have never allowed abstracting to comprise an
unreasonably large portion of revenue. We are in the process of phasing out abstracting even further, and replacing the lost revenue with other more profitable areas of the real estate industry. We still maintain a limited list of abstracting clients who understand that quality costs a little more, and are willing to pay for the difference. We still accept new clients...but on our terms and at our prices.

As with all business in a free enterprise system the most efficient survives. The question is whether efficiency is determined by price or quality of service. If the searcher offering the $25 search can provide a quality product, he has won the game in the best American free enterprise tradition. He has invented the better mouse trap. Those that are unable to compete will need to find better ways to become competitive or find alternate lines of endeavor. Robert recently published an article in which he declared that this business is not longer profitable. He is right. If a searcher is limiting the services he markets to one service alone (abstracting) he is programmed for failure.

I really take offense at your posting. You have misstated my position in this matter.Do not ever condescendingly accuse me of viewing a free market system as an "infringement" on business or a "sour grapes" approach. I do see the death knell of the traditional abstractor approaching, and I have critized the V/M's, title companies and lenders for fostering an environment in which cheap price rather than quality of services was the preferred commodity. My counsel on this board has consistently been for its members to find better ways to compete... value added approach...form their own national/regional title companies...combine their abstracting with other services to lessen the impact of the low ball pricing.

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Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:20:34 AM (3001 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:47:16 PM (3070 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:48:03 PM (3067 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:48:10 PM (3121 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:57:38 PM (3077 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:05:18 AM (2940 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:59:50 PM (2864 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:49:46 PM (2803 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 10:04:56 AM (2997 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM (2858 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:03:18 AM (2893 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:14:43 AM (2827 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:06:02 PM (2840 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:17:23 AM (2907 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:27:18 AM (2850 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/16/2005 12:29:43 PM (2834 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 12:39:46 PM (2939 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 1:41:05 PM (3022 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 10:31:49 AM (2940 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/17/2005 11:09:00 AM (2866 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:17:32 PM (3014 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:33:58 PM (2933 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:19:48 PM (2962 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:09:32 PM (2793 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 12:41:27 PM (2916 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:20:17 PM (2829 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2005 1:06:07 AM (2745 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:02:19 PM (2630 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 9:02:14 AM (2797 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:17:41 PM (2646 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:51:15 PM (2615 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:19:19 AM (2619 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:48:33 PM (2597 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 1:10:58 PM (2746 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:18:50 AM (2792 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 11:28:34 AM (2730 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kathleen Krol/PA
12/19/2005 5:40:25 PM (2718 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 12:11:07 PM (2506 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:07:48 PM (2612 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:18:52 PM (2597 views)

American Legal and Financial Network, First American, Old Republic... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2005 4:25:35 PM (3115 views)

Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2005 4:20:09 PM (2579 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/14/2005 7:19:18 AM (3348 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/14/2005 9:10:29 AM (3413 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/15/2005 7:46:20 AM (3211 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 8:47:58 AM (3320 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 9:40:48 AM (3476 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 9:55:01 AM (3387 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:03:34 AM (3306 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:05:01 AM (3274 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:08:55 AM (3181 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:21:31 AM (3257 views)

Shipping Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/13/2005 12:28:15 PM (2521 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Deborah Manion/VA
12/13/2005 2:16:47 PM (3458 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
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Re: Shipping Costs - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 1:51:37 PM (2499 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:27:09 PM (3268 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:31:24 PM (3169 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2005 11:53:39 PM (3428 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 12:34:44 AM (3337 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/8/2005 9:21:53 PM (3380 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/12/2005 7:18:07 PM (3357 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/12/2005 7:18:16 PM (3397 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Tammy Knight/MO
12/12/2005 11:58:42 PM (3478 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - The King's Kid/PA
12/12/2005 7:31:06 PM (3307 views)

Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/7/2005 8:07:49 PM (3542 views)
Re: Cookies - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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12/8/2005 1:00:04 AM (3235 views)
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Re: Cookies - Katrina Harris/GA
12/8/2005 3:15:39 PM (3347 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:21:41 PM (3317 views)
Re: Cookies - Kelli Gorman/TX
12/11/2005 1:41:11 PM (3252 views)
Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cookies - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cookies - Tammy Elliott/WA
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Re: Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 12:40:49 AM (3248 views)

Stories - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Stories - monica froese/ME
12/7/2005 11:08:19 PM (3454 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Stories - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Stories - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Stories - Deborah Manion/VA
12/8/2005 11:30:59 AM (3265 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:34:03 PM (3279 views)
Re: Stories - Kelli Gorman/TX
12/16/2005 8:56:59 AM (3141 views)
Re: Stories - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/16/2005 6:20:05 PM (3222 views)
Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 7:17:40 PM (3081 views)

Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/7/2005 1:07:01 PM (2401 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/7/2005 9:58:10 PM (3282 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Scott Perry/PA
12/7/2005 10:24:27 PM (3275 views)
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12/7/2005 11:47:18 PM (3273 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Tammy Knight/MO
12/8/2005 12:53:48 AM (3202 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
12/8/2005 7:30:11 AM (3254 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/8/2005 9:53:30 AM (3337 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/8/2005 11:10:15 AM (3225 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 9:15:17 PM (3220 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/9/2005 7:58:43 AM (3099 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 9:38:37 PM (3246 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/9/2005 10:02:03 AM (3238 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 7:18:17 PM (3172 views)

Early Registration Extended to Dec. 14th - Jay Duncan/MO
12/6/2005 3:21:57 PM (3625 views)
Re: Early Registration Extended to Dec. 14th - Robert Franco/OH
12/6/2005 4:06:12 PM (3141 views)

Jay Duncan - Tammy Knight/MO
12/6/2005 12:09:13 AM (2659 views)
Re: Jay Duncan - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Jay Duncan - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Jay Duncan - Jay Duncan/MO
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Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
12/5/2005 11:24:06 PM (2721 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 11:57:36 PM (3449 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 5:47:48 AM (3616 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Deborah Manion/VA
12/6/2005 12:16:52 PM (3460 views)
Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Abstractor... abstracter and now there is... - Scott Perry/PA
12/8/2005 7:05:48 PM (3335 views)

Jim with Contemporary - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Jim with Contemporary - Jim Girardi/NY
12/6/2005 11:34:07 AM (3328 views)

Greenlink & Wauchovia - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Greenlink & Wauchovia - Eboni/VA
12/14/2005 9:29:33 AM (3575 views)
Re: Greenlink & Wauchovia - Shannon Blatt/VA
12/15/2005 3:22:08 PM (3728 views)

Poor Pay/No Pay List - Iris Buchman/FL
12/5/2005 11:01:51 AM (2679 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 12:11:29 PM (3610 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 4:59:47 PM (3653 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 8:30:54 PM (3687 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jan Forster/NC
12/5/2005 8:41:22 PM (3726 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Jay Duncan/MO
12/5/2005 10:37:25 PM (3754 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - J Nisonger/CA
12/5/2005 11:04:05 PM (3609 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/5/2005 11:54:25 PM (3608 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - J Nisonger/CA
12/6/2005 6:06:33 AM (3514 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/6/2005 10:23:46 AM (3623 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Patrick Scott/IL
12/6/2005 12:50:44 PM (3389 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Tammy Knight/MO
12/6/2005 1:39:36 PM (3580 views)
Re: Poor Pay/No Pay List - Iris Buchman/FL
12/7/2005 12:21:37 AM (3680 views)


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