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Seasonal Postings - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 9:06:00 AM (2523 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/21/2005 9:23:21 AM (3736 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 9:41:07 AM (3701 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2005 10:22:33 AM (3639 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Jay Duncan/MO
12/21/2005 1:33:16 PM (3711 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2005 1:56:32 PM (3537 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Jay Duncan/MO
12/21/2005 2:04:27 PM (3615 views)
How about a secular Christmas story - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/21/2005 10:03:24 AM (3624 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Julie Jasiunas/WI
12/21/2005 10:06:12 AM (3665 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:08:41 AM (3506 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Rachel Malone/PA
12/21/2005 10:34:22 AM (3670 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2005 10:36:04 AM (3668 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:39:18 AM (3656 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2005 10:54:14 AM (3710 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:57:43 AM (3749 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings - J Nisonger/CA
12/21/2005 12:05:45 PM (3709 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Loretta Reed/MD
12/21/2005 12:29:09 PM (3475 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Kim Cowles/WI
12/22/2005 8:19:44 AM (3480 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/22/2005 11:36:01 AM (3534 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Kurt deVries/FL
12/22/2005 11:46:24 AM (3472 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - J Nisonger/CA
12/23/2005 3:35:00 AM (3515 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Scott Perry/PA
12/23/2005 8:16:45 AM (3538 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Scott Perry/PA
12/23/2005 9:21:36 AM (3413 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Deborah Manion/VA
12/23/2005 9:22:39 AM (3392 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2005 6:15:44 PM (3456 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Kurt deVries/FL
12/23/2005 11:58:51 AM (3453 views)
Re: Seasonal Postings..my 2cents worth - Scott Perry/PA
12/27/2005 12:16:01 PM (3414 views)

Monica - J Anonymous/CA
12/21/2005 3:52:22 AM (1959 views)

This is a season of may celebrations.... - J Nisonger/CA
12/21/2005 3:37:05 AM (3590 views)
Re: This is a season of may celebrations.... - Scott Perry/PA
12/21/2005 8:05:32 AM (3436 views)
Re: This is a season of may celebrations.... - J Nisonger/CA
12/21/2005 12:14:00 PM (3465 views)
Re: This is a season of may celebrations.... - J Nisonger/CA
12/21/2005 2:21:55 PM (3402 views)

Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 11:29:31 AM (2577 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 12:08:25 PM (3844 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/20/2005 12:49:13 PM (3908 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 2:06:10 PM (3858 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 2:34:49 PM (3691 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/20/2005 3:56:14 PM (3872 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 4:36:59 PM (3922 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 4:57:04 PM (3805 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 5:14:09 PM (3768 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 2:35:49 AM (3586 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 9:31:26 AM (3621 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 10:29:36 AM (3631 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:41:57 AM (3702 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 10:51:06 AM (3623 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/21/2005 10:59:04 AM (3658 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 11:35:58 AM (3521 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/23/2005 2:51:36 PM (3589 views)

Just had to share! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/20/2005 8:42:47 AM (2512 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/20/2005 11:37:44 AM (3660 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:18:59 PM (3629 views)
Re: Just had to share! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 1:49:39 PM (3773 views)
Re: Just had to share! - TITLE REPORTS PLUS RLE/MD
12/20/2005 3:22:21 PM (3641 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2005 5:24:35 PM (3625 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2005 8:15:58 PM (3644 views)




Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 9:33:30 PM (1898 views)

..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:22:15 PM (2902 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 2:49:46 PM (3853 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:56:42 PM (3921 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 3:06:59 PM (4000 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 3:43:50 PM (3890 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 4:18:48 PM (3684 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/19/2005 5:05:15 PM (3765 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 6:24:59 PM (3873 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 10:11:41 AM (3687 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:15:08 PM (3991 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Wendi See/SC
12/20/2005 9:50:31 PM (3979 views)

Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 1:49:54 PM (3801 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/18/2005 4:43:25 PM (5747 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 8:24:21 AM (3902 views)

NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:27:06 PM (2566 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/17/2005 11:37:17 AM (5789 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:12:44 PM (3758 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 8:28:15 AM (3747 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/23/2005 3:47:03 AM (3715 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/23/2005 10:38:33 AM (3726 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2005 11:07:57 AM (3586 views)

Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:21:44 AM (2501 views)
Re: Home exchange - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:05:32 AM (3518 views)
Re: Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:20:13 AM (3706 views)

Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 10:00:03 AM (2669 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:17:19 AM (3516 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/15/2005 8:25:06 PM (3310 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:44:24 PM (3229 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 3:10:19 PM (3038 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 4:47:30 PM (3066 views)
Age stereotyping - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2006 6:08:24 PM (3084 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:41:45 PM (3088 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 8:49:11 PM (5432 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2005 9:00:30 PM (3512 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 9:28:17 PM (3156 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:23 AM (3220 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:44:05 AM (3129 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 8:00:24 AM (3085 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Steve Schneider/IN
12/16/2005 9:11:34 AM (3091 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:34:52 AM (3191 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:49 PM (3156 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:14:46 AM (3230 views)

J T

I am not sure why you are directing your response to me. I have not participated in this thread. As of late I have not been very active on SOT. However, now that you have brought me into the conversation, I will comment.
 
I have no problem with anyone running their business as they see fit. As far as low ball pricing is concerned, whether you can live with it or not depends largely on the region in which you operate. I am not sure how things are done in up state New York. In so far as southern New England is concerned, it is one of the most expensive areas of the country in which to live and operate a business. The problem is exacerbated by the political organization of Connecticut. We have no county government . All land records are recorded in the individual town halls...requiring much travel time on the road. Consequently, the price of gasoline is a major consideration in the pricing of your title search. If someone is charging $25 to $35.00 for a current owner search in this area, he has to be cutting corners somewhere else. What he gives up in the price of an individual search he needs make up in daily volume. In other words in order to cut his price by 50% he needs to double his daily output of work in order to break even. The town halls are open only 8 hours per day with a few exceptions. Some operate on a part time basis. It takes time to drive from one to another. How does one double his daily output of work without sacrificing quality? The time constraints alone do not allow it.

There is a particular business entity that has been critiqued on SOT because of its low pricing and difficult terms of service. I know of at least two searchers in this area that have thrown up their hands in disgust, and rejected further assignments because they could not prossibly provide the requested service at the low rate paid to them.

This was confirmed to me by one of the town clerks recently. She had observed a number of newbie searchers lately in the town of Wolcott, Ct. The town has recently installed a computer (not on line) to store its internal land records. She noticed the newbie searchers rushing in to perform their search on the computer without recourse to the written index, and rushing out the door to their next search. What the newbie searcher failed to consider is that the Town of Wolcott keeps its sewer liens in separate index not included in the computer index. The newbie searcher walked out the door to his next search without even considering the potential for encumbrances in the sewer lien index. The town of Wolcott, Ct is not alone. Because of the way Connecticut is organized, each town has its piculiarities with respect to the way each maintains its land records.

In so far as organizing abstractors into a union or forming their own abstracting/title company to preserve their interests...I have suggested these approaches at various times over the past 18 months. The suggestions met with mixed reviews either because of apathy or the financial inability of the individual searchers to come forward with the capital investment. Consequently, I do not see any remedy to the problem.
The issue will therefore only be rectified through the economic pressure to the market place. It will probably take several years before a determination is made as to whether the cut rate search, outsourced electronic search or the traditional brick and morter search is the most efficient.

In the case of my firm, we have never allowed abstracting to comprise an
unreasonably large portion of revenue. We are in the process of phasing out abstracting even further, and replacing the lost revenue with other more profitable areas of the real estate industry. We still maintain a limited list of abstracting clients who understand that quality costs a little more, and are willing to pay for the difference. We still accept new clients...but on our terms and at our prices.

As with all business in a free enterprise system the most efficient survives. The question is whether efficiency is determined by price or quality of service. If the searcher offering the $25 search can provide a quality product, he has won the game in the best American free enterprise tradition. He has invented the better mouse trap. Those that are unable to compete will need to find better ways to become competitive or find alternate lines of endeavor. Robert recently published an article in which he declared that this business is not longer profitable. He is right. If a searcher is limiting the services he markets to one service alone (abstracting) he is programmed for failure.

I really take offense at your posting. You have misstated my position in this matter.Do not ever condescendingly accuse me of viewing a free market system as an "infringement" on business or a "sour grapes" approach. I do see the death knell of the traditional abstractor approaching, and I have critized the V/M's, title companies and lenders for fostering an environment in which cheap price rather than quality of services was the preferred commodity. My counsel on this board has consistently been for its members to find better ways to compete... value added approach...form their own national/regional title companies...combine their abstracting with other services to lessen the impact of the low ball pricing.

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Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:20:34 AM (3180 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:47:16 PM (3248 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:48:03 PM (3236 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:48:10 PM (3295 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:57:38 PM (3251 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:05:18 AM (3092 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:59:50 PM (3023 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:49:46 PM (2960 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 10:04:56 AM (3166 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM (3032 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:03:18 AM (3073 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:14:43 AM (2994 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:06:02 PM (2991 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:17:23 AM (3068 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:27:18 AM (3019 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/16/2005 12:29:43 PM (3006 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 12:39:46 PM (3125 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 1:41:05 PM (3182 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 10:31:49 AM (3123 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/17/2005 11:09:00 AM (3028 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:17:32 PM (3190 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:33:58 PM (3106 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:19:48 PM (3128 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:09:32 PM (2947 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 12:41:27 PM (3073 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:20:17 PM (2994 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2005 1:06:07 AM (2903 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:02:19 PM (2778 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 9:02:14 AM (2988 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:17:41 PM (2806 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:51:15 PM (2775 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:19:19 AM (2788 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:48:33 PM (2751 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 1:10:58 PM (2911 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:18:50 AM (2963 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 11:28:34 AM (2889 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kathleen Krol/PA
12/19/2005 5:40:25 PM (2877 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 12:11:07 PM (2671 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:07:48 PM (2770 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 1:18:52 PM (2763 views)

American Legal and Financial Network, First American, Old Republic... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2005 4:25:35 PM (3179 views)

Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2005 4:20:09 PM (2620 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/14/2005 7:19:18 AM (3483 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/14/2005 9:10:29 AM (3558 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/15/2005 7:46:20 AM (3349 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 8:47:58 AM (3465 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 9:40:48 AM (3624 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 9:55:01 AM (3529 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:03:34 AM (3454 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:05:01 AM (3431 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 9:08:55 AM (3349 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:21:31 AM (3396 views)

Shipping Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/13/2005 12:28:15 PM (2589 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Deborah Manion/VA
12/13/2005 2:16:47 PM (3608 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Robert Breakell/CT
12/13/2005 5:38:14 PM (3477 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:43:45 PM (3599 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:45:01 PM (3598 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - Steve Schneider/IN
12/13/2005 5:45:24 PM (3301 views)
Re: Shipping Costs - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/13/2005 6:19:39 PM (3245 views)

Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/8/2005 8:27:09 PM (3419 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Robert Franco/OH
12/8/2005 11:53:39 PM (3590 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
12/9/2005 12:34:44 AM (3479 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/8/2005 9:21:53 PM (3554 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/12/2005 7:18:07 PM (3506 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - Tammy Knight/MO
12/12/2005 11:58:42 PM (3616 views)
Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - The King's Kid/PA
12/12/2005 7:31:06 PM (3446 views)


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