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[+] The Future of the Industry - Robert Franco/OH (30 replies)
10/27/2005 3:04:25 PM (3992 views)

[+] Electronic storage - Deborah Manion/VA (7 replies)
10/27/2005 9:58:43 AM (3269 views)

[+] Starting your own business - Angela Glass/MD (7 replies)
10/25/2005 8:49:48 PM (3404 views)

[+] Passing... - Jay Duncan/MO (2 replies)
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[+] Abstractors Aid In New Orleans' Recovery - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH (2 replies)
10/24/2005 10:19:12 AM (4463 views)




[+] Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA (3 replies)
10/24/2005 12:06:20 AM (3407 views)

[+] Whine, whine, whine... - Jay Duncan/MO (6 replies)
10/23/2005 10:43:57 PM (4595 views)

[+] Here we go again!! - Kurt deVries/FL (4 replies)
10/21/2005 3:38:08 PM (3531 views)

[+] Code of Ethics - Jay Duncan/MO (8 replies)
10/21/2005 10:35:01 AM (4727 views)

[+] research time? - GORDON TINSLEY/CA (9 replies)
10/20/2005 4:54:52 AM (3750 views)

[-] QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA (35 replies)
10/19/2005 9:55:01 PM (3811 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
10/19/2005 11:29:36 PM (6919 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: QUICK POLL - NPC/GA
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Re: QUICK POLL - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: QUICK POLL - Deborah Manion/VA
10/20/2005 9:37:31 AM (6983 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wanda Steudel/OH
10/20/2005 9:38:52 AM (6681 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
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Re: QUICK POLL - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: QUICK POLL - John OConnor/IL
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Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 10:46:43 AM (6857 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Michaela Urban/OH
10/20/2005 10:55:00 AM (6907 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2005 1:08:40 PM (6978 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Rebecca Barney/FL
10/20/2005 1:26:50 PM (6598 views)
THANKS, EVERYONE! - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2005 5:22:43 PM (6772 views)
Re: THANKS, EVERYONE! - Robert Franco/OH
10/20/2005 5:51:06 PM (6800 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Wendi See/SC
10/20/2005 10:26:17 PM (6698 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Tammy Knight/MO
10/20/2005 11:37:10 PM (6557 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 7:20:16 AM (6411 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jay Duncan/MO
10/21/2005 10:29:25 AM (8288 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2005 3:15:39 PM (6657 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2005 1:14:46 PM (6396 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
10/23/2005 12:02:03 AM (6624 views)

This is a great subject that we all can benefit from. I have been waiting for a chance to comment on this.Let us consider the fact that almost every service provided in a settlement is linked to or a percentage factor of the selling price/loan amount. The RE commission, the Brokers commission, the title insurance commission. The settlement fees are pretty much set, but those that settle are usually linked to the title insurance anyway, as the prices of the houses go up, the loan amounts go up they all have a pay check that goes "up" ....EXCEPT those of us that are not linked in that fashion-I know here in Virginia ,title examination fees were a factor of the selling price a long time ago, back when the atty's were doing the searches them selves- they nixed that when abstractors took over and then the title insurance commission fees were taking the place of the money they gave up in that deal. It sure would be nice to go back to that. Would help us keep pace with everything without having to worry about the $25 CO searches. Lets say that the avg selling price is $250 K ( which is way low, but for these purposes-) and the title fee was $150.00- that would work out to a title fee of  0.0006 % (which just happens to be 1/100 of the prevailing RE commissions being charged in this part of the country -         $15000.00-) a small price to pay for what they are getting. Let me hear some feedback on this. Will be hard to implement it , I am sure, but at least it would be in line with everything else in the settlement process.

Now on to the fees that are being paid/charged for the title work. Please take some time to read section 8 of RESPA. It clearly defines who should be paid what- If you charge $150.00 for a search- that is what should show up on lines 1102 or 1103 of the HUD. If it is different, then that company that charged the extra amount is supposed to have performed what is preferred to as "core title" work, which is what we do, not a vendor.Here is where the other additional facts comes into play, if they are charging more for what you did, then they are required to carry liability insurance for the difference and are liable for that same percentage of any claim that might arise. There are a number of complications that enter into the situation as a result of the extra charges at this point. First, it is a violation of section 8 and there are sizable fines for doing this..I have contacted HUD and inquired about this practice and they have concurred that these are violations. It seems like most of the title companies just prefer to "look the other way" when doing their audits of the agents and they even do the same thing on in-house settlements. Of course their employees are not able to make any claims like this, but those of us that are independent can do so. I have seen HUD's from some companies that I know only pay $75 per search show $350.00 on both lines 1102 & 1103- that is $700.00 for something they pay $75 for- but, they are then liable for about 90% of any claim that might occur, but I am quite sure they do not know this aspect of this price gouging that is occurring right now.(this company is now on notice that they should stop this practice I would hope-as they solicit companies here on SOT)Oh, and according to HUD , these violations are each subject to $10,000 fines which is another thing they expose themselves to also.

We read on here almost every month about some company or title agent being fined by HUD for RESPA violations-kickbacks, etc. This is just another form of what they are looking into.

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Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/23/2005 6:30:34 AM (6514 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/23/2005 1:55:15 PM (6634 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/24/2005 6:42:19 AM (6380 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Donna Grady/NC
10/23/2005 9:31:18 PM (6471 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Phyllis Agan/GA
10/28/2005 8:45:42 AM (6451 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Jacqueline Quaresimo/PA
10/29/2005 3:55:31 PM (6031 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
10/23/2005 7:43:10 PM (6520 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Bill Jones/NJ
10/24/2005 7:06:57 PM (6482 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Anne Gilbert/VT
10/24/2005 8:33:51 PM (6366 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/24/2005 9:32:09 PM (6226 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Lisa Scherer/NJ
10/24/2005 11:23:52 PM (6581 views)
Re: QUICK POLL - Scott Perry/PA
10/25/2005 6:11:22 PM (6509 views)

[+] This has been bugging me . . . - Michaela Urban/OH (21 replies)
10/18/2005 9:57:44 AM (3816 views)

[+] New member of Phoenix Document Service! - Kurt deVries/FL (10 replies)
10/17/2005 4:50:18 PM (3731 views)

[+] LENDERS SERVICES DIRECT TULSA, OK - Becky Kale/IL (4 replies)
10/17/2005 2:22:31 PM (3721 views)

[+] Okay, another question. - Tammy Knight/MO (4 replies)
10/16/2005 10:18:06 PM (3519 views)


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