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County Clerk Victim of I.D. Theft - David Bloys/TX
2/16/2006 8:58:31 AM (3417 views)
Re: County Clerk Victim of I.D. Theft - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/16/2006 10:23:39 AM (2882 views)

ashamed of ourselves - Deborah Manion/VA
2/14/2006 5:16:00 PM (2307 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Robert Franco/OH
2/14/2006 5:31:55 PM (3014 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/14/2006 5:32:19 PM (3036 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/15/2006 3:09:31 PM (2988 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/15/2006 7:27:01 PM (2981 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J Nisonger/CA
2/16/2006 4:32:47 AM (2944 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 7:40:32 AM (2886 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - J Nisonger/CA
2/14/2006 6:16:38 PM (2924 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 9:20:59 PM (2954 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/15/2006 3:02:22 PM (2911 views)
Re: ashamed of ourselves - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/18/2006 11:54:00 AM (2771 views)

off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/12/2006 9:57:50 PM (2269 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
2/12/2006 11:46:54 PM (2863 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Deborah Manion/VA
2/13/2006 4:15:35 PM (2726 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/14/2006 5:30:35 PM (2728 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Loretta Reed/MD
2/14/2006 9:40:08 PM (2663 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2006 10:26:56 PM (2648 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/15/2006 1:42:58 AM (2614 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/15/2006 12:45:49 PM (2697 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Helene/GA
2/22/2006 11:31:55 PM (2709 views)
Re: off topic...death of a teenager.... - Vikki Moffitt/GA
3/5/2006 7:26:11 PM (2763 views)

Mobile Closing Resources - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 1:54:34 PM (1687 views)

Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 11:31:19 AM (3153 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/10/2006 5:56:24 PM (2874 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/10/2006 6:24:34 PM (2754 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:49:29 PM (2792 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Donna Grady/NC
2/11/2006 12:13:18 AM (2874 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - David Bloys/TX
2/11/2006 1:16:19 AM (2777 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/11/2006 9:38:48 AM (2890 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Jan Forster/NC
2/11/2006 1:29:43 PM (2755 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2006 6:21:05 AM (2825 views)
Re: Reply to Invasion of Privacy Post - Robert Breakell/CT
2/11/2006 8:57:27 AM (2808 views)


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Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 11:14:33 PM (2273 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 12:20:21 AM (2989 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2006 7:57:29 AM (2955 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 10:07:03 AM (2830 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:13:57 AM (2850 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:19:32 AM (2922 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2006 10:19:38 AM (2894 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:44:32 PM (2776 views)
Re: Uh huh! What happened?Need Help - Donna Grady/NC
2/10/2006 11:47:58 PM (2845 views)

Invasion of Privacy - Donna Grady/NC
2/9/2006 9:57:49 PM (2098 views)
Re: Invasion of Privacy - Slade Smith/OH
2/10/2006 7:38:49 PM (2797 views)

Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/9/2006 6:10:41 PM (2485 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Scott Perry/PA
2/9/2006 7:18:47 PM (3109 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - NA/FL
2/10/2006 10:17:28 AM (3139 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/10/2006 10:21:33 AM (3028 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - L ROLAND/CA
2/10/2006 12:53:21 PM (2910 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/10/2006 1:04:52 PM (2858 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/12/2006 3:17:43 PM (2950 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 3:54:53 PM (2911 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 9:07:51 PM (2826 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 10:08:11 AM (2877 views)

This simply re-confirms my earlier belief that the title companies and VM's are more interested in the bottom line of the balance sheet than in the accuracy of the title search. The debate of the accuracy of online and non- online data based disc searches has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. I will not beat it to death any further, but I wanted to disclose an interesting experience I had yesterday with the inaccuracy of on line searches. Connecticut has only two cities currently on line with respect to there land records, Norwich and Stamford. I did a search yesterday in Norwich. I normally do the initial search of the written records, and check the computer to verify conformity.  One of the documents showing up in the index (both written and computer) was a release of mortgage. The margin notation also indicated that this was a release. In reality it was an assignment..not a release. The mortgage was still active. You had to check the actual document to determine the nature as an assignment.

Norwich markets its system for fee. Supposedly you are able to perform a title search from your office. The system does allow you to image each of the documents, and imaging the assignment on the computer would have disclosed its nature as an assignment rather than a release also. My concern is with the search being performed on the otherside of the world, is the third world "abstractor" going to know enough to examine the documents or simply to rely on an inaccurate index? India has a legal system influenced by an English system of justice, like ours, but it is also shaped by the Indian experience. Is the third world"abstractor" going to understand the impact on title of each of the documents in the land records? What happens if the search is done in China whose "legal system" is totally alien to ours?

Connecticut will probably never go completely on line because the tax bases of the smaller towns will not justify the expense. However, the other alternative is the system marketed by data brokers as a non online system of computerized discs. The problem is the lag time between update discs.
Several years ago there was a company that was offering the same type of system for computerized legal research. Their selling point was that it saved you a trip to the law library to perform research. It updated the data base of case law 4 times per year. The problem was that it did not save you the trouble of going to the law library because the update discs did not come out fast enough to include the most recent law in your research. The same is true of the land records discs marketed by the data brokers. The problem is probably even more severe because the land records are updated on an hourly basis.

Ultimately, the title companies will make money, and look for someone at which to point the finger when the title insurance claims begin. The title insurance companies will construe the policies as narrowly as possibly to deny coverage to the homeowner, and the homeowner will become low man on the totem pole with respect to marketability of his title.

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Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Robert Franco/OH
2/15/2006 10:21:22 AM (3016 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/15/2006 10:53:11 AM (4265 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/15/2006 6:17:01 PM (3065 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - J Nisonger/CA
2/16/2006 4:43:16 AM (2983 views)
Re: Nationwide App. Outsourcing? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 5:45:35 AM (2917 views)

Stewart Title of India - Ricky Farrow/FL
2/8/2006 6:54:38 PM (3869 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 5:37:27 AM (2941 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 9:40:43 AM (2930 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 10:11:46 AM (3064 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 10:41:53 AM (2965 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 10:47:10 AM (2937 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/9/2006 11:35:58 AM (2930 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:22:04 AM (2829 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 3:18:08 PM (2985 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 6:29:01 PM (2816 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/14/2006 10:56:42 AM (2884 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:24:32 AM (2884 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Norean/GA
2/9/2006 4:26:21 PM (3191 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2006 4:46:34 PM (2809 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
2/9/2006 5:11:45 PM (2810 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Jan Forster/NC
2/9/2006 5:37:03 PM (2846 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/9/2006 7:01:17 PM (4309 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - NA/FL
2/10/2006 12:17:17 PM (2876 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - David Bloys/TX
2/10/2006 7:54:39 PM (2856 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Helene/GA
2/23/2006 12:24:41 AM (2702 views)
Re: Stewart Title of India - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/23/2006 8:30:44 AM (2714 views)

Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:16:43 PM (2198 views)
Re: Error Rates - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 5:50:08 PM (4234 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 6:38:55 PM (2800 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:42:41 AM (2848 views)
Re: Error Rates - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/9/2006 2:43:00 PM (2809 views)
Re: Error Rates - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 5:01:16 PM (2743 views)

Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 11:54:01 AM (2164 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/8/2006 12:42:32 PM (2870 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:18:30 PM (2744 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/8/2006 1:43:43 PM (2817 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/9/2006 9:56:18 AM (2705 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2006 11:17:38 AM (2780 views)
Re: Policy Writing - George Booth/OH
2/9/2006 2:39:45 PM (2784 views)
Re: Policy Writing - Doug Hollowell/TX
2/14/2006 4:28:47 PM (2796 views)

Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 10:53:11 AM (2274 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 11:05:21 AM (2945 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/8/2006 3:11:43 PM (2781 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Smitty Strickland/SC
2/14/2006 6:59:11 PM (2867 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/15/2006 2:23:21 PM (2754 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Lynn Hammett/SC
2/15/2006 9:33:35 PM (2991 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2006 12:16:29 AM (2748 views)
Re: Another judgement question - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/16/2006 8:29:49 AM (2797 views)

Just checking - Tammy Knight/MO
2/7/2006 10:30:25 PM (1896 views)

Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:06:16 PM (2324 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Matthew DeLand/NY
2/7/2006 1:31:37 PM (3072 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 1:49:42 PM (3117 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 2:25:22 PM (4565 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - FOR ON-LINE SEARCHES ONLY - David Bloys/TX
2/7/2006 2:56:37 PM (2930 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Patrick Scott/IL
2/7/2006 1:53:08 PM (3127 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/7/2006 2:53:43 PM (2919 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 10:55:57 AM (2878 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Danielle Nelson/WI
2/8/2006 2:22:36 PM (2916 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/8/2006 2:59:47 PM (2908 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/8/2006 5:38:56 AM (2856 views)
Re: Outrageous Copy Costs - Robert Franco/OH
2/8/2006 10:29:48 AM (2909 views)

Jay - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2006 3:34:54 AM (3326 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 9:04:39 AM (3039 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 9:15:40 AM (3135 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 9:16:49 AM (2972 views)
Re: Jay - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2006 11:09:07 AM (2995 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 11:24:44 AM (2968 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 2:02:55 PM (3014 views)
Re: Jay - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/7/2006 5:27:09 PM (3060 views)
Re: Jay - Jay Duncan/MO
2/7/2006 6:15:07 PM (3077 views)


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