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Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 11:29:31 AM (1995 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 12:08:25 PM (2165 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/20/2005 12:49:13 PM (2196 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 2:06:10 PM (2118 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 2:34:49 PM (2128 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/20/2005 3:56:14 PM (2112 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 4:36:59 PM (2124 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/20/2005 4:57:04 PM (2040 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Wanda Steudel/OH
12/20/2005 5:14:09 PM (2027 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 2:35:49 AM (1989 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 9:31:26 AM (1955 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 10:29:36 AM (1968 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Deborah Manion/VA
12/21/2005 10:41:57 AM (2012 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Robert Franco/OH
12/21/2005 10:51:06 AM (2006 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/21/2005 10:59:04 AM (2055 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Patrick Scott/IL
12/21/2005 11:35:58 AM (1913 views)
Re: Beware of New Product Requests - Larry Crooks/OH
12/23/2005 2:51:36 PM (1948 views)

Just had to share! - Jay Duncan/MO
12/20/2005 8:42:47 AM (1906 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/20/2005 11:37:44 AM (1952 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:18:59 PM (1977 views)
Re: Just had to share! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/20/2005 1:49:39 PM (2089 views)
Re: Just had to share! - TITLE REPORTS PLUS RLE/MD
12/20/2005 3:22:21 PM (1972 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2005 5:24:35 PM (1848 views)
Re: Just had to share! - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2005 8:15:58 PM (1952 views)

Hey Kurt! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 9:33:30 PM (1506 views)

..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:22:15 PM (2359 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 2:49:46 PM (2243 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 2:56:42 PM (2320 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 3:06:59 PM (2365 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 3:43:50 PM (2256 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/19/2005 4:18:48 PM (2073 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/19/2005 5:05:15 PM (2065 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 6:24:59 PM (2139 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/20/2005 10:11:41 AM (2111 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Ellen Malloy/MO
12/20/2005 12:15:08 PM (2274 views)
Re: ..unrecorded liens.... - Wendi See/SC
12/20/2005 9:50:31 PM (2286 views)

Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 1:49:54 PM (3197 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/18/2005 4:43:25 PM (3913 views)
Re: Attention Signing Agents - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/19/2005 8:24:21 AM (2186 views)


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NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:27:06 PM (2011 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/17/2005 11:37:17 AM (3922 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:12:44 PM (2073 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/19/2005 8:28:15 AM (2018 views)
Re: NALTEA question - J Nisonger/CA
12/23/2005 3:47:03 AM (1991 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
12/23/2005 10:38:33 AM (2056 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2005 11:07:57 AM (2004 views)

Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:21:44 AM (2020 views)
Re: Home exchange - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:05:32 AM (1901 views)
Re: Home exchange - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:20:13 AM (1989 views)

Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/15/2005 10:00:03 AM (2148 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/15/2005 10:17:19 AM (1918 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/15/2005 8:25:06 PM (1803 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:44:24 PM (1601 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 3:10:19 PM (1460 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/25/2006 4:47:30 PM (1537 views)
Age stereotyping - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2006 6:08:24 PM (1500 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2006 10:41:45 PM (1453 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 8:49:11 PM (3651 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/15/2005 9:00:30 PM (1927 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/15/2005 9:28:17 PM (1616 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:23 AM (1660 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:44:05 AM (1590 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 8:00:24 AM (1568 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Steve Schneider/IN
12/16/2005 9:11:34 AM (1531 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:34:52 AM (1540 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 12:17:49 PM (1509 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:14:46 AM (1592 views)

J T

I am not sure why you are directing your response to me. I have not participated in this thread. As of late I have not been very active on SOT. However, now that you have brought me into the conversation, I will comment.
 
I have no problem with anyone running their business as they see fit. As far as low ball pricing is concerned, whether you can live with it or not depends largely on the region in which you operate. I am not sure how things are done in up state New York. In so far as southern New England is concerned, it is one of the most expensive areas of the country in which to live and operate a business. The problem is exacerbated by the political organization of Connecticut. We have no county government . All land records are recorded in the individual town halls...requiring much travel time on the road. Consequently, the price of gasoline is a major consideration in the pricing of your title search. If someone is charging $25 to $35.00 for a current owner search in this area, he has to be cutting corners somewhere else. What he gives up in the price of an individual search he needs make up in daily volume. In other words in order to cut his price by 50% he needs to double his daily output of work in order to break even. The town halls are open only 8 hours per day with a few exceptions. Some operate on a part time basis. It takes time to drive from one to another. How does one double his daily output of work without sacrificing quality? The time constraints alone do not allow it.

There is a particular business entity that has been critiqued on SOT because of its low pricing and difficult terms of service. I know of at least two searchers in this area that have thrown up their hands in disgust, and rejected further assignments because they could not prossibly provide the requested service at the low rate paid to them.

This was confirmed to me by one of the town clerks recently. She had observed a number of newbie searchers lately in the town of Wolcott, Ct. The town has recently installed a computer (not on line) to store its internal land records. She noticed the newbie searchers rushing in to perform their search on the computer without recourse to the written index, and rushing out the door to their next search. What the newbie searcher failed to consider is that the Town of Wolcott keeps its sewer liens in separate index not included in the computer index. The newbie searcher walked out the door to his next search without even considering the potential for encumbrances in the sewer lien index. The town of Wolcott, Ct is not alone. Because of the way Connecticut is organized, each town has its piculiarities with respect to the way each maintains its land records.

In so far as organizing abstractors into a union or forming their own abstracting/title company to preserve their interests...I have suggested these approaches at various times over the past 18 months. The suggestions met with mixed reviews either because of apathy or the financial inability of the individual searchers to come forward with the capital investment. Consequently, I do not see any remedy to the problem.
The issue will therefore only be rectified through the economic pressure to the market place. It will probably take several years before a determination is made as to whether the cut rate search, outsourced electronic search or the traditional brick and morter search is the most efficient.

In the case of my firm, we have never allowed abstracting to comprise an
unreasonably large portion of revenue. We are in the process of phasing out abstracting even further, and replacing the lost revenue with other more profitable areas of the real estate industry. We still maintain a limited list of abstracting clients who understand that quality costs a little more, and are willing to pay for the difference. We still accept new clients...but on our terms and at our prices.

As with all business in a free enterprise system the most efficient survives. The question is whether efficiency is determined by price or quality of service. If the searcher offering the $25 search can provide a quality product, he has won the game in the best American free enterprise tradition. He has invented the better mouse trap. Those that are unable to compete will need to find better ways to become competitive or find alternate lines of endeavor. Robert recently published an article in which he declared that this business is not longer profitable. He is right. If a searcher is limiting the services he markets to one service alone (abstracting) he is programmed for failure.

I really take offense at your posting. You have misstated my position in this matter.Do not ever condescendingly accuse me of viewing a free market system as an "infringement" on business or a "sour grapes" approach. I do see the death knell of the traditional abstractor approaching, and I have critized the V/M's, title companies and lenders for fostering an environment in which cheap price rather than quality of services was the preferred commodity. My counsel on this board has consistently been for its members to find better ways to compete... value added approach...form their own national/regional title companies...combine their abstracting with other services to lessen the impact of the low ball pricing.

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Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2005 6:20:34 AM (1519 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:47:16 PM (1669 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 2:48:03 PM (1653 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:48:10 PM (1678 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 3:57:38 PM (1592 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:05:18 AM (1521 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:59:50 PM (1425 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:49:46 PM (1401 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 10:04:56 AM (1516 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/16/2005 10:31:04 AM (1466 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/16/2005 11:03:18 AM (1504 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:14:43 AM (1447 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:06:02 PM (1426 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 11:17:23 AM (1470 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 11:27:18 AM (1483 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - David Bloys/TX
12/16/2005 12:29:43 PM (1454 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2005 12:39:46 PM (1478 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/17/2005 10:31:49 AM (1479 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
12/17/2005 11:09:00 AM (1428 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:17:32 PM (1519 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/17/2005 3:33:58 PM (1534 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Rachel Malone/PA
12/18/2005 6:19:48 PM (1503 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:09:32 PM (1394 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 12:41:27 PM (1518 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 5:20:17 PM (1482 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/17/2005 1:06:07 AM (1362 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:02:19 PM (1296 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/18/2005 9:02:14 AM (1385 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 7:17:41 PM (1255 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/24/2006 6:48:33 PM (1216 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
12/16/2005 1:10:58 PM (1285 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kurt deVries/FL
12/19/2005 11:18:50 AM (1330 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - J Nisonger/CA
12/19/2005 11:28:34 AM (1299 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Kathleen Krol/PA
12/19/2005 5:40:25 PM (1234 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/27/2006 12:11:07 PM (1161 views)
Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Case in Point!! - Jason Sheppard/PA
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American Legal and Financial Network, First American, Old Republic... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/14/2005 4:25:35 PM (2679 views)

Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
12/13/2005 4:20:09 PM (2116 views)
Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Clear Title in Jacksonville? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Shipping Costs - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Shipping Costs - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Share a Holiday Recipe - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Share a Holiday Recipe - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Cookies - J Nisonger/CA
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Stories - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Stories - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Stories - Ellen Malloy/MO
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Re: Stories - J Nisonger/CA
12/16/2005 7:17:40 PM (1837 views)

Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Tammy Knight/MO
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Rachel Malone/PA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Leave it Up to Texas - David Bloys/TX
12/9/2005 10:02:03 AM (1906 views)
Re: Leave it Up to Texas - J Nisonger/CA
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