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Anyone familiar with a company named Source Title Solutions, Inc. ? - Joseph Weaver/VA
4/1/2006 6:47:51 PM (2247 views)

Practicing Law - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/29/2006 9:21:10 PM (2604 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 7:09:18 AM (3763 views)
CT & VT Recording Alike - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/6/2006 8:53:11 AM (3493 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 8:59:15 AM (3428 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 1:06:21 PM (3387 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 4:26:33 PM (3571 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Anne Gilbert/VT
4/6/2006 4:45:31 PM (3556 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/6/2006 4:46:05 PM (3510 views)
Re: Practicing Law - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
4/6/2006 10:33:51 PM (3499 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/7/2006 5:24:26 AM (3414 views)
Re: Practicing Law - Lisa Ramsey/TX
4/7/2006 11:07:47 AM (3420 views)

Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 9:21:37 AM (2675 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 10:26:24 AM (3433 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/29/2006 10:34:56 AM (3511 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - George Booth/OH
3/29/2006 9:25:03 PM (3390 views)
Re: Once you are licensed then whats next? - Christine Sheeler/PA
3/30/2006 11:10:40 AM (3394 views)

Business 101 - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 1:01:49 PM (2177 views)

Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/28/2006 9:16:59 AM (2676 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - George Booth/OH
3/28/2006 9:48:04 AM (3692 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Ricky Farrow/FL
3/28/2006 3:13:52 PM (3543 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Robert Franco/OH
3/28/2006 4:12:57 PM (3749 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jay Duncan/MO
3/28/2006 10:35:50 PM (3567 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Scott Perry/PA
3/28/2006 11:32:53 PM (3515 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Helene/GA
3/29/2006 1:01:49 AM (3514 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/29/2006 8:13:08 AM (3557 views)

It is the abstractor's job to report which liens, mortgages, etc. encumber the title to a property only. When I was doing title searches I normally dealt with the issue of tax liens, mechanic's liens and other time barred encumbrances as follows:
 
     1.   If there was a release specifically addressing the lien, the lien was not listed in the abstract as an encumbrance. 

     2.   If the lien was not released or not expired it was listed as an encumbrance. 

     3.   If the lien was not released, but there was some question as to whether the lien was expired or renewed, the lien was listed as a potential encumbrance to the extent that it was not expired or otherwise released, and a notation was made in the abstract that further inquiry should be made as to the current status of the lien.

It is not the abstractor's  function to make judgment calls in questionable situations. Remember, you are only getting paid $50.00 or less for a current owner search, possibly driving 25-30 miles to a town hall at your expense to perform the search , or possibly you are one of the abstractors being asked to reduce your price and include the cost of the copies in return for nothing from the client. Why should the abstractor incur the liability of making this determination? Scott is right. Someone else is being paid the big bucks to make this determination. Let him know the potential encumbrance is there, and let him earn his fee.

Before I issue a title insurance policy, I want to know the current status of potential problems rather than run the risk of insuring over a problem. When I am confronted with the problem of a possibly time barred lien, I list it as an exception to coverage until the property owner produces a copy of a duly recorded release.

When you can have the absolute release of the lien why rely on a time limitation which may or may not mave been renewed, the renewal or release may have been recorded out of the chain of title, or which may have been tolled (extended) for some reason. Even if it has not properly been tolled, arguments can be made for it which require a ruling of the court, and you have to go to the trouble and expense to defend. It is a drop in the bucket to the taxing authority if they are ruled wrong. I know of someone locally that got into a dispute with the IRS. He appealed all the way through the courts, and finally was driven out of business only to have the IRS finally concede that he was right.

I am very pleased when an  abstractor has brought a potential problem to my attention. It gives me the peace of mind of insisting on a release of the lien.

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Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kim Cowles/WI
3/29/2006 8:49:39 AM (3497 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Brad McCollom/IN
3/29/2006 6:11:07 AM (5579 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/29/2006 2:31:31 PM (3491 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
3/30/2006 9:10:26 AM (3421 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Jeanne Johnson/FL
4/3/2006 2:27:09 PM (3503 views)
Re: Federal Tax Lien question - Kristi Lee/NE
4/10/2006 11:54:33 AM (3356 views)




Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/24/2006 5:51:05 PM (3959 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - George Booth/OH
3/25/2006 9:15:51 AM (3320 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Robert Breakell/CT
3/25/2006 2:20:10 PM (3322 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/25/2006 5:30:43 PM (3372 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:26:41 PM (3352 views)
Re: Privacy issues:selling America - Scott Perry/PA
3/25/2006 8:33:41 PM (3277 views)

Colorado - Michael/KS
3/23/2006 10:07:13 PM (3331 views)
Re: Colorado - Kurt deVries/FL
3/24/2006 2:45:40 PM (3454 views)
Re: Colorado - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:00:51 PM (3481 views)

Lindsays Abstract - Norean Cashwell/GA
3/23/2006 5:54:13 PM (2706 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:27:39 PM (3524 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Vikki Moffitt/GA
3/31/2006 1:07:53 AM (3501 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Norean Cashwell/GA
4/3/2006 6:25:51 AM (3366 views)
Re: Lindsays Abstract - Kathy Davis/GA
6/7/2006 6:47:17 PM (3449 views)

ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/22/2006 11:26:35 PM (2672 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - David Bloys/TX
3/23/2006 7:35:42 AM (3618 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:05:30 AM (3568 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 9:59:40 AM (3781 views)

Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:03:56 PM (2603 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/22/2006 4:43:13 PM (3587 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:04:53 PM (3565 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Helene/GA
3/27/2006 11:06:17 PM (3416 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/27/2006 11:14:03 PM (3483 views)

Applause for an abstracter - Sophia Varga/NY
3/22/2006 11:52:43 AM (2698 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:51:34 AM (3326 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:03:21 PM (3337 views)

Interesting article...market changes - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 1:39:58 AM (2662 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 7:51:17 AM (3585 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 8:43:01 AM (5617 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 9:23:13 AM (3530 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:32:06 PM (3550 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - J Nisonger/CA
3/22/2006 12:40:49 PM (3529 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:28:58 PM (3534 views)
lol...now why would someone - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:02:06 PM (3540 views)

ABA Questions - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:55:57 PM (2551 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:18:43 AM (3488 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 10:10:38 AM (3371 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 10:23:05 AM (3603 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:54:51 AM (3578 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:46:57 AM (3481 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 12:58:06 PM (3598 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 5:48:26 PM (3554 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 7:55:25 PM (3585 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:21:10 PM (3639 views)
Steve! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:30:05 PM (3584 views)
Re: Steve! - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:45:19 PM (3605 views)

Millennium Abstract, LLC - Joanie Hahr/VT
3/21/2006 3:26:23 PM (4025 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:54:19 PM (3649 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:28:36 PM (3694 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Sandra Morton/KS
4/3/2006 9:11:55 AM (3452 views)

ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/18/2006 7:47:21 PM (2733 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
3/19/2006 2:46:32 AM (3578 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:30:03 PM (3514 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
4/2/2006 9:33:21 AM (3455 views)


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