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ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/22/2006 11:26:35 PM (2624 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - David Bloys/TX
3/23/2006 7:35:42 AM (3343 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:05:30 AM (3307 views)

David,

Those are great questions! Yes they can use OCR (Optical Character Recognition) on handwriting. Even the wicked cursive from the late 1800's, (so they say) Did I see it with my own eyes? I'm sorry to say no I did not. What we as citizens consider private, personally identifiable information differs greatly from what the states are saying also. In Florida for instance they require by Jan. 1, 2007 ALL public records in custody by the recorder's office to redact the following.

RECORDS–COURTS–CLERKS OF COURT–redaction of social security number, bank account, debit, charge, or credit card number 
s. 119.07(3)(ff), Fla. Stat.; Ch. 02-391, Laws of Florida.

This brings up an even better arguement pose by one of the floor members at this conference. Forgive my interpretation of the conversation please...

The IRS will no longer file liens with the 9 digit account number which we all know is the SSN. They will instead only use the last four numbers.
The floor member said something like this. Anyone who knows anything about SSNs knows the first five digits are personally identifiable numbers and only the last four are random. "A 14 year old with enough time on their hands can write a simple number generator and figure out the remaining numbers base on location the document was found and approximate age of the person." The fact is no amount of redaction is going to help a person who has been targeted for fraud.

The scarey thing is I can buy leads from a Credit Bureau that shows for instance anyone that applied for a mortgage in the last three days with Countrywide home loans. That lead will give me the name, address and phone number of the person. A good hacker needs little more than this to gain that person's identity.

As far as your other questions David, I can't attest to them. But I will say there are some seriously powerful data mining software programs out there building title plants and automatically indexing them with very little human intervention. First American's CEO was there and said their title plant operations overseas are enjoying a very successful accuracy rate when checked by an abstractor.
Again, please let me clarify my position. I cannot possibly fathom the idea of writing a policy based on some overseas title plant from a person that barely speaks english.  It's impossible to know the little nuances of every area, that's what abstractors are for. but, they seem perfectly happy to cough up a committment in fifteen minutes because that's what the lenders demand.

In my humble opinion, the lenders and realtors need a hard slap on the face to make them wake up and get educated on what title insurance is and how important the information is to be correct. Our biggest problem in this industry is education. People just don't know what title insurance is how important to the transaction it is. Furthermore, cut rate abstractors have sacrificed their own credibility by lowering fees. They don't place enough value on their own product or knowledge. If you have been an abstractor for over 20 years then companies should pay you premium dollars for your knowledge, instead people cut their fees, just to stay in business. There needs to be a unified voice and a line drawn. Give it a  little while after those marvelous computers miss a lien and an underwriter gets sued again, maybe they will then see the value of human eyes and mind.

George


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Re: ATIM Conference - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 9:59:40 AM (3506 views)

Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:03:56 PM (2551 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Wanda Steudel/OH
3/22/2006 4:43:13 PM (3350 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:04:53 PM (3312 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Helene/GA
3/27/2006 11:06:17 PM (3185 views)
Re: Anyone with enviornmental search experience? - Michael Toebe/KS
3/27/2006 11:14:03 PM (3231 views)

Applause for an abstracter - Sophia Varga/NY
3/22/2006 11:52:43 AM (2651 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:51:34 AM (3068 views)
Re: Applause for an abstracter - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2006 12:03:21 PM (3077 views)

Interesting article...market changes - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 1:39:58 AM (2601 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 7:51:17 AM (3355 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 8:43:01 AM (5378 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 9:23:13 AM (3292 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:32:06 PM (3327 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - J Nisonger/CA
3/22/2006 12:40:49 PM (3308 views)
Re: Interesting article...market changes - Robert Breakell/CT
3/22/2006 6:28:58 PM (3295 views)
lol...now why would someone - Michael Toebe/KS
3/22/2006 3:02:06 PM (3280 views)

ABA Questions - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:55:57 PM (2501 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 9:18:43 AM (3232 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2006 10:10:38 AM (3130 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 10:23:05 AM (3356 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:54:51 AM (3324 views)
Re: ABA Questions - George Booth/OH
3/23/2006 11:46:57 AM (3232 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 12:58:06 PM (3376 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 5:48:26 PM (3333 views)
Re: ABA Questions - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 7:55:25 PM (3375 views)
Re: ABA Questions - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:21:10 PM (3415 views)
Steve! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/23/2006 8:30:05 PM (3369 views)
Re: Steve! - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/23/2006 10:45:19 PM (3390 views)




Millennium Abstract, LLC - Joanie Hahr/VT
3/21/2006 3:26:23 PM (3980 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Michael Solt/PA
3/21/2006 3:54:19 PM (3440 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:28:36 PM (3468 views)
Re: Millennium Abstract, LLC - Sandra Morton/KS
4/3/2006 9:11:55 AM (3243 views)

ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
3/18/2006 7:47:21 PM (2670 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
3/19/2006 2:46:32 AM (3327 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 1:30:03 PM (3264 views)
Re: ATIM Conference - George Booth/OH
4/2/2006 9:33:21 AM (3236 views)

Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/17/2006 12:21:33 PM (3134 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/17/2006 1:56:50 PM (3675 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:07:33 PM (3378 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Langdon Knight/MO
3/17/2006 6:45:23 PM (3583 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:20:40 PM (3524 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - Langdon Knight/MO
3/21/2006 5:58:23 PM (3506 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:30:17 PM (3443 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:31:37 PM (3317 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/30/2006 12:31:41 PM (3362 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
3/17/2006 8:13:23 PM (3544 views)
Re: Ex-employee steals from Real Property Resources - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
3/21/2006 2:26:51 PM (3317 views)

We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/16/2006 6:48:19 PM (2657 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/16/2006 6:55:22 PM (3308 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
3/16/2006 7:24:29 PM (3247 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/17/2006 1:30:52 PM (3140 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 9:25:54 AM (3243 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Patrick Scott/IL
3/20/2006 10:24:31 AM (3254 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 11:23:58 AM (3208 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Scott Perry/PA
3/20/2006 6:41:46 PM (3198 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Nikky/FL
3/20/2006 7:03:36 PM (3249 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/20/2006 10:47:43 PM (3185 views)
Re: We Are Moving!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
3/27/2006 9:08:35 AM (3216 views)

OT - March Madness - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/16/2006 3:18:35 PM (2532 views)
short stay, Danielle - Michael Toebe/KS
3/19/2006 3:42:15 AM (3236 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/21/2006 2:34:18 PM (3098 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Scott Perry/PA
3/21/2006 8:24:17 PM (3163 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/22/2006 3:56:42 PM (3299 views)
Re: short stay, Danielle - Scott Perry/PA
3/22/2006 5:06:42 PM (3245 views)

Corporate Story! - Kurt deVries/FL
3/15/2006 12:20:57 PM (2515 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - James "Lin" Toney/MS
3/16/2006 6:42:50 PM (3150 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/16/2006 6:52:22 PM (3235 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - J Nisonger/CA
3/18/2006 5:24:48 PM (3299 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Robert Breakell/CT
3/19/2006 9:09:17 AM (3113 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Scott Perry/PA
3/19/2006 1:14:55 PM (3219 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - J Nisonger/CA
3/23/2006 1:35:05 PM (3153 views)
Re: Corporate Story! - Michael Toebe/KS
3/19/2006 3:37:36 AM (3214 views)

Informal Poll - Danielle Nelson/WI
3/15/2006 10:10:36 AM (2491 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Robert Franco/OH
3/15/2006 10:18:56 AM (3416 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Scott Perry/PA
3/15/2006 10:49:28 AM (5794 views)
Re: Informal Poll - David Bloys/TX
3/15/2006 12:16:26 PM (3325 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Kurt deVries/FL
3/15/2006 12:23:29 PM (3339 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Sandra Morton/KS
3/19/2006 1:15:34 PM (3325 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Kim Cowles/WI
3/15/2006 6:15:22 PM (3300 views)
Re: Informal Poll - Sandra Morton/KS
3/19/2006 1:13:36 PM (3181 views)

NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Robert Breakell/CT
3/14/2006 1:52:27 PM (2612 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 2:32:59 PM (3371 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 5:26:02 PM (3374 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/15/2006 8:32:16 AM (3305 views)
Re: NASCOPGH (Capital Title Group) - Scott Perry/PA
3/15/2006 10:59:17 AM (3284 views)

Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/13/2006 10:11:15 PM (3803 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 9:02:27 AM (3422 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/14/2006 10:48:11 AM (3341 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 11:14:24 AM (5353 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 1:11:09 PM (5363 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 11:06:33 AM (3294 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
3/14/2006 11:30:45 AM (3303 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 12:41:46 PM (5471 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Kurt deVries/FL
3/14/2006 2:22:16 PM (3384 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 2:51:09 PM (3313 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 5:08:23 PM (3095 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - David Bloys/TX
3/14/2006 7:33:22 PM (5229 views)
Re: Still Think Online Public Records are a good thing? - Scott Perry/PA
3/14/2006 9:28:30 PM (3155 views)

Hey, Jaybird!! - Scott Perry/PA
3/13/2006 8:02:47 AM (2510 views)
Re: Hey, Jaybird!! - Jay Duncan/MO
3/13/2006 8:26:34 AM (3091 views)


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