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greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 5:58:00 PM (3774 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Ms. Moritz/FL
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Re: greenlink fax - Michaela Urban/OH
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Re: greenlink fax - J Nisonger/CA
5/19/2006 10:05:20 PM (5117 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Robert Franco/OH
5/18/2006 10:13:15 AM (5290 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/19/2006 11:08:36 AM (5195 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/23/2006 7:30:50 AM (5120 views)
Re: greenlink fax - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 12:57:33 PM (5094 views)
Re: greenlink fax - DEANA BROADFOOT/AL
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Re: greenlink fax - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: greenlink fax - David Bloys/TX
5/22/2006 8:41:43 PM (5127 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/23/2006 7:39:49 AM (5146 views)
Re: greenlink fax - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 8:43:15 AM (5154 views)

Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:24:55 PM (4513 views)
Re: Bucking the Out Sourcing Trend - J Nisonger/CA
5/23/2006 11:44:35 PM (4757 views)

please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/12/2006 4:56:05 PM (3461 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 5:06:02 PM (4580 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:39:49 PM (4450 views)
Re: please read..... - Jan Forster/NC
5/13/2006 12:29:17 AM (4443 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 7:55:46 AM (4345 views)
Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/13/2006 5:21:19 PM (4486 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:47:53 PM (4384 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 12:04:22 AM (4382 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/14/2006 6:37:05 PM (4261 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Scott Perry/PA
5/14/2006 10:37:59 PM (4350 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/14/2006 11:29:06 PM (4283 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/15/2006 11:59:09 AM (4340 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/15/2006 1:14:44 PM (4259 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Jay Duncan/MO
5/15/2006 10:24:49 PM (4365 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 8:47:11 AM (4236 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 9:36:52 AM (4232 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:55:34 AM (4227 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:07:51 AM (4259 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 9:53:06 AM (4240 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 10:16:53 AM (4167 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/16/2006 1:36:14 PM (4320 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:03 PM (4203 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/16/2006 2:38:07 PM (4155 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/16/2006 3:09:02 PM (4078 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/16/2006 5:08:03 PM (4207 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 6:40:02 AM (4198 views)
Re: Questions about the plan - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:29:23 AM (4102 views)
Re: please read..... - Pete Kisan/OH
5/15/2006 8:15:15 AM (4321 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 8:03:48 PM (5667 views)
Re: please read..... - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2006 9:16:09 PM (4220 views)
Re: please read..... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/16/2006 10:48:57 PM (4135 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/16/2006 9:41:54 PM (5616 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 7:06:30 AM (4270 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:48:19 AM (5606 views)
Re: please read..... - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/17/2006 9:54:34 AM (4068 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 9:26:16 AM (4170 views)
Re: please read..... - Ellen Malloy/MO
5/17/2006 9:58:48 AM (4036 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 10:07:45 AM (4017 views)
Re: please read..... - John OConnor/IL
5/17/2006 10:33:41 AM (4113 views)
Re: please read..... - Robert Franco/OH
5/17/2006 11:36:50 AM (4045 views)
Re: please read..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
5/17/2006 4:40:38 PM (4082 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/18/2006 12:29:26 PM (4022 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/18/2006 1:07:45 PM (4103 views)
Re: please read..... - Lori Cassidy/CT
5/22/2006 10:19:07 AM (4058 views)
Re: please read..... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/22/2006 10:32:14 AM (4060 views)
Re: please read..... - Wanda Steudel/OH
5/22/2006 3:17:34 PM (4070 views)
Re: please read..... - Scott Perry/PA
5/23/2006 12:52:46 AM (4052 views)

Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/12/2006 4:29:19 PM (3155 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/12/2006 5:11:47 PM (4448 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - David Bloys/TX
5/12/2006 10:47:50 PM (4534 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 8:18:22 AM (4504 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Scott Perry/PA
5/13/2006 10:28:08 AM (4564 views)
Re: Beating the title insurers at their own game - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/13/2006 10:47:24 AM (4517 views)

Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/12/2006 1:36:00 PM (3464 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - HOPE DEZERN/SC
5/22/2006 1:05:32 PM (4403 views)
Re: Greenlink and Wachovia - Wendi See/SC
5/23/2006 12:48:37 PM (4354 views)


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Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/11/2006 11:39:32 AM (3281 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 11:51:07 AM (4587 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 3:28:26 PM (4641 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/12/2006 11:27:50 AM (4482 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: Where is CMS??? - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
5/22/2006 12:25:33 PM (4374 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Frances Scheetz/PA
5/17/2006 6:27:46 PM (4545 views)
Re: Where is CMS??? - Ricky Farrow/FL
5/25/2006 10:37:40 PM (4445 views)

Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 8:10:35 AM (4179 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
5/11/2006 8:22:23 AM (4448 views)
Re: Another Off-Topic Post... - Scott Perry/PA
5/11/2006 4:20:52 PM (4284 views)

30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 5:40:47 PM (3056 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
5/10/2006 7:56:56 PM (4616 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Kurt deVries/FL
5/10/2006 8:27:34 PM (4578 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Scott Perry/PA
5/10/2006 8:52:41 PM (4377 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - George Booth/OH
5/10/2006 10:05:19 PM (4654 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Jay Duncan/MO
5/11/2006 8:39:08 AM (4427 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/11/2006 8:21:29 PM (4451 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/12/2006 7:07:03 PM (4522 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Franco/OH
5/13/2006 5:17:39 PM (4142 views)
Re: 30...40...50 year??? - Robert Breakell/CT
5/16/2006 6:45:49 PM (4042 views)

Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/10/2006 9:01:31 AM (3039 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Jay Duncan/MO
5/10/2006 9:58:02 AM (4832 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:21:21 AM (4521 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Angelica Schneider/IN
5/10/2006 1:50:10 PM (4400 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
5/10/2006 4:39:36 PM (4400 views)
Re: Error and Omissions Insurance - Christine Sheeler/PA
5/12/2006 8:47:22 AM (4284 views)

The Outsourcing Continues... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/9/2006 10:50:15 AM (2601 views)

Industry Veteran Passes Away - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
5/8/2006 1:21:24 PM (2485 views)

NALTEA question - Wendi See/SC
5/8/2006 11:30:21 AM (3041 views)
Re: NALTEA question - George Booth/OH
5/8/2006 11:42:02 AM (4379 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Wanda Steudel/OH
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5/8/2006 3:58:58 PM (4280 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 1:23:27 AM (6277 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/9/2006 7:21:04 AM (4707 views)
Re: NALTEA question - David Bloys/TX
5/9/2006 8:46:55 AM (4667 views)
Re: NALTEA question - Jay Duncan/MO
5/9/2006 10:06:36 AM (4747 views)
Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
5/10/2006 8:56:40 AM (4849 views)

Jay:

I am no longer abstracting, but if I can help Naltea in an advisory capacity, please let me know. I will be happy to act as an advisor.

As a follow up to the above posting, I wanted to shed a little light:

Naltea Membership/Union:
    1.   I think that the problem Naltea may be facing with respect to membership is a general apathy accross the board with the abstractors. I think many of them have limited budgets, and are concerned with what they get in return for their annual membership fee. I think you have to take into account that they have limited budgets, and need to see a return on the investment. 

          When Naltea was formed the incentive was to obtain lower group health insurance rates and e&o rates. These are great ideas, and should be followed up, but possibly in a different method. My knowledge of Naltea is limited to posting on SOT, but as I understand it the insurance companies tied any reduction in premiums to effectuation of a training/certification program. As I understand it there was some problem with the program...not certain exactly what. The certification was a difficult task to include all the laws of the various states. I also think that it was too restrictive for experienced abstractors. Even the state bar associations offer alternatives to bar exam to attorneys with more than five years experience. The objective of obtaining the reduced e&o insurance premiums is a great idea, but I think the means of obtaining it need to be re-evaluated to accomplish it.

            In so far as a union is concerned, it is a concept that most abstractors understand in lieu of membership in a trade organization.
There are two ways to accomplish it. 

                    a.  Either contact an existing union of your choice and have them send union organizers. The draw back of this approach is that you have to answer to a national, and if some other group that they represent goes out on strike, the abstractors may be asked to do the same in sympathy. You also give up a lot of independence. 

                    b.  The preferable route is to form your own union exclusively for abstractors. You would have to contact a labor attorney to set you. (This is not an area in which I practice). You can organize and structure the by laws to the express needs and desires of the membership, and the abstractors remain in full control of their objectives. 

              What can a union offer the abstractor that Naltea is not... group reductions on auto insurance, life insurace and health insurance  and a retirement plan (similar to teachers unions). You could also make membership in Naltea an added benefit of membership in your union.

               What are the benefits of the union...more effective representation in the market among the title companies and vendor managers. ..better control of price negotiation for an abstractor's services without the counter threat of price fixing. In so far as the fears of abstractors having to pay union wages to their employees is concerned, these expenses can be included in the increased price of the client's doing business with the union members. Will the clients have the option of dealing with non union abstractors? Certainly, but hopefully you can attract enough union members to make the prospect unattractive, and you are still free to educate the client's client to whom he answers by the weak link theory explained below.

    2.     The weak link:

                 As explained above to find the weak link in the food chain it is necessary to travel up the chain to the party that ultimately controls the funding, and for whom everyone lower in the chain works.  The weak link needs to be educated to how his interests are being handeled, and whether there is a better method.

                 This approach is used in other industries. I personally saw it work when I worked for CBS. One of the major Ad Agencies in New York was buying 400 rating points per weak of television advertising in the Chicago market. That is a huge amount of money when spread across an advertising campaign of several weeks duration. The media buyer cut CBS out of the deal for whatever reason we do not know. We put together a sweet deal and approached the client directly to educate the client as to what was available, but which was not considered by the media buyer. It worked. There was a re-buy of the market in which CBS got its fair share of the deal. The first time this happens the buyer is called up on the carpet to explain himself. If it happens a second time, the buyer is fired. If it happens a third time the Ad Agency loses the account.

             I think the same approach could be used by the abstractors, if they are organized properly.

   3.      Promotion:

            I think the position of the abstractors could be improved if the title community and general public better understood the nature of the work performed and its importance. Institutional advertising could be used to accomplish this. You may need to hire an Ad Agency or PR firm to accomplish this, or possibly this is a function that Naltea could perform. I understand how to buy rating points in both television and radio, and will be happy to share the knowledge. I can also explain how the Neilsen ratings work. 

Anyway, Jay, just a few more thoughts on the subject.
 

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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - George Booth/OH
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Re: NALTEA question..long post - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: NALTEA question - Jan Forster/NC
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Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Hey Jan, thanks and continue the research!!! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: NALTEA question - Kevin Ahern/CT
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What to do? - Michael Persyn/TX
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
5/10/2006 11:42:03 AM (4529 views)
Re: What to do? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - monica froese/ME
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Re: What to do? - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: What to do? - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: What to do? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
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Re: What to do? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: What to do? - Jeanne Johnson/FL
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Re: This is what we are doing in Suffolk County - Mason Haas/NY
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Re: What to do? - David Bloys/TX
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What if? - George Booth/OH
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Re: What if? - Scott Perry/PA
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PA Governor Signs Eminent Domain Law - Scott Perry/PA
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