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[+] Looks as though others in the industry are feeling threatened... - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH (1 reply)
2/28/2006 4:20:42 PM (3605 views)

[+] A New Low for Scammers - Jay Duncan/MO (2 replies)
2/28/2006 1:08:09 PM (2338 views)

[+] Just a thought - Kevin Ahern/CT (6 replies)
2/28/2006 11:39:18 AM (2240 views)

[+] Clear Choice Abstracts - Sandra Morton/KS (4 replies)
2/27/2006 4:07:57 PM (2557 views)

[-] A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA (49 replies)
2/25/2006 6:22:18 PM (3786 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
2/25/2006 7:11:26 PM (2976 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/25/2006 7:36:11 PM (3015 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2006 6:45:16 AM (3162 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/26/2006 8:25:34 AM (2938 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2006 10:02:32 AM (2988 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
2/26/2006 12:50:42 PM (3005 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Loretta Reed/MD
2/26/2006 1:16:55 PM (2976 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
2/26/2006 1:25:12 PM (3101 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 7:54:19 AM (3050 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 9:13:53 AM (3002 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 9:58:11 AM (2878 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2006 10:33:25 AM (2889 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2006 10:45:25 AM (2860 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 10:50:39 AM (2872 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2006 11:16:58 AM (2958 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 11:25:47 AM (2849 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/27/2006 11:19:56 AM (2866 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 5:31:37 PM (2815 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Ellen Malloy/MO
2/27/2006 12:11:27 PM (2764 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/27/2006 12:28:09 PM (2927 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 1:41:56 PM (2995 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2006 1:51:42 PM (2839 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/28/2006 2:01:06 PM (2996 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 2:11:36 PM (3251 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 3:32:28 PM (2884 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 3:42:18 PM (2793 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 4:26:23 PM (2765 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/28/2006 4:38:05 PM (2753 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 4:51:52 PM (2769 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Breakell/CT
2/28/2006 6:20:25 PM (2848 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/28/2006 6:26:00 PM (2664 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/28/2006 7:19:46 PM (2555 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
2/28/2006 6:45:22 PM (2825 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/1/2006 7:16:08 AM (2653 views)

George,

Your resoponse is pretty much what I expected. The emphasis is on the price of the search rather than the quality of the product. Can you train a college kid to do a search for $9.00 per hour...certainly. Does it increase your exposure to claims made against you for  poor workmanship...absolutely.

I am having some difficulty in understanding your position. On the one hand you complain  about the quality of American abstractors' work, but on the other hand you appear to embrace a position that fosters poor workmanship. The cost of the search is an expense that is passed to the buyer/borrower in a real estate transaction. As a homeowner I would want the best protection I could get. The acquisition of real estate is probably the most important investment Americans make. The cost of the title search is negligible by comparison to the investment. Furthermore, the markup on the HUD 1 forms charged for a title search by some title companies is huge. They are making money on both ends of the deal. How long this will continue with RESPA reform and investigations urged by the federal government is unknown .

I see the $9.00 per hour abstractors of which you speak in the town halls. They are a joke. In order to break even financially they have to increase the number of searches they perform each day at the expense of the time allocated to each search.

I saw one of them rush in to perform a current owner search completely on the town hall's computer. He never once pulled any of the documents to verify the accuracy of the items listed in his abstract, and rushed out the door to his next search.What he did not realize was that the town only included its land records in its internal computer. The water and sewer liens were kept in a separate written index. The abstractor had never reviewed any of this information for his search.Why you would want to issue a title insurance policy on the strength of this type of search is beyond me.  Your position sounds like the auto manufacturer that produced an automobile with a fatal defect, but had determined that it was cheaper to settle the claims than to perform a recall of the product.

In your post you indicate that an Indian can be paid $5.00 per hour. I don't know how you are going to do this since that is less than federal and/or state minimum wage. I therefore, must presume that you are talking about  outsourcing the work to India where $5.00 per hour is a livable wage.  So I must repeat my earlier statement that this cannot be done and still maintain the quality of the product because the Indian abstractor must rely on an online system to perform the search. The records necessary to perform the search on line are incomplete. I know for a fact that someone sitting in New Delhi cannot perform an online search of the land records, probate records, foreclosure records, tax lien records and bankruptcy records for a property located  in Branford, Connecticut.

With respect to Indian abstractors you state " It has been proven obviously that they have a higher capacity for learning technology...". Well, I guess that is the generalization for the day. Reminds me of something someone told me in law school..."Adopt a good set of prejudices because it will save you a lot of time making decisions." He was joking of course, but your statement does not sound like a joke.

In so far as giving price breaks is concerned, I do not reduce my prices. I produce a quality product. If you want the quality you pay for it. What you fail to realize is that everything is pretty much at rock bottom prices industry wide. There is no room left to negotiate. It is easier for me to turn away low ball clients, and concentrate my efforts in other areas that are more financially rewarding.

I issue title insurance policies also, and I would never rely on anything less than the most accurate search I could get.

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Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
3/1/2006 10:46:02 AM (2570 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Ellen Malloy/MO
3/1/2006 9:50:23 AM (2520 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/1/2006 11:07:03 AM (2506 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/4/2006 5:56:33 PM (2486 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
3/7/2006 11:43:56 AM (2582 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/7/2006 12:27:51 PM (2555 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/7/2006 1:27:23 PM (2511 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - J Nisonger/CA
3/7/2006 6:25:07 PM (2391 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
3/7/2006 7:57:51 PM (2484 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/7/2006 11:00:40 PM (2635 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Scott Perry/PA
3/7/2006 11:34:02 PM (2347 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Robert Franco/OH
3/8/2006 11:18:12 AM (2411 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Jason Sheppard/PA
3/8/2006 12:16:45 PM (2351 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - Kevin Ahern/CT
3/8/2006 12:38:28 PM (2510 views)
Re: A Post That Many of You Won't Like - George Booth/OH
3/9/2006 7:49:05 PM (2431 views)


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[+] DOES ANYONE KNOW ABSTRACT, USA - Angelica Schneider/IN (4 replies)
2/24/2006 7:38:33 PM (2350 views)

NE REAL ESTATE SERVICES - Paul Hughes/RI
2/24/2006 5:06:01 PM (1833 views)

www.naltea.org will be moving also - Jay Duncan/MO
2/24/2006 3:27:15 PM (1795 views)

sourceoftitle.com being moved to new servers - Slade Smith/OH
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[+] In Response to My Name and TruClose - Jason Sheppard/PA (4 replies)
2/24/2006 10:07:46 AM (3487 views)

[+] It's Just Too Bad - J.T. Shoemaker/NY (16 replies)
2/23/2006 10:24:07 PM (2485 views)

[+] Calling all desperate abstractors - Wendi See/SC (17 replies)
2/23/2006 6:13:53 PM (3783 views)

[+] Please Pray!!! - Jay Duncan/MO (6 replies)
2/23/2006 5:40:51 PM (2283 views)

[+] AM I WRONG? - Diane Rodriguez/CA (6 replies)
2/23/2006 12:24:31 PM (2312 views)

[+] Consumer Marketing Services (CMS) - Ricky Farrow/FL (20 replies)
2/23/2006 11:30:21 AM (2430 views)


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