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How do you build your title search business through out your state - Margaret Tobin/NC
7/5/2006 1:38:41 AM (2896 views)
Re: How do you build your title search business through out your state - Angelica Schneider/IN
7/5/2006 8:47:07 AM (4235 views)

Liability over 1M? - Nathan Miller/KY
7/2/2006 8:47:16 PM (3177 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/2/2006 10:37:23 PM (4178 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 5:30:40 AM (4131 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Scott Perry/PA
7/3/2006 9:37:24 AM (4743 views)

Hey, F. Lee!

Good to hear from you again!  There were a couple of recent cases dealing with this issue, one of which I believe was reported here on Source of Title.

In Express Financial Services v. Gateway Abstract, Inc., (Monroe County, PA, 2004), the court held that an abstract company’s liability is limited to amount of the fee, even where that limit appears only on the abstract comany's invoice, and there is no pre-existing agreement between the parties.

Furthermore, in Puget Sound Financial, LLC v. Unisearch, Inc., (2006), the Supreme Court of Washington State unanimously upheld the validity of language printed on a UCC search company's invoice which limited the search company's liability to the cost of the search, in this case, $25.00.

In the Unisearch case, the court's decision was based on a three-pronged rationale, 1) that trade usage and course of dealing are "appropriate evidentiary doctrines for determining the terms of a non- or partially integrated agreement, including one that began as an oral contract", 2) a liability limitation between commercial parties with a history of trade usage or course of dealing is not unconscionable, and 3) that even in the absence of a history of trade usage or dealing, such a term is not unconscionable if the exclusionary language is conspicuous and both parties have a chance to review it.

What I found most interesting about this case is that by using the term "conspicuous", the Court did not require that the liability limitation "stand out", but that the language be treated comparably to other terms of the agreement.  As a practical matter, the issue would then become whether or not the language is "buried in the fine print"; or, whether or not the limitation language is as conspicuous as other terms in the rest of the contract.

Speaking of disclaimers, to anyone else reading this, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.  I am simply having a discussion with my good buddy, F. Lee Ahern, so don't rely on any of the above as legal advice.  Get a lawyer.

Regards,
Scott Perry

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Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 10:29:28 AM (4596 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/3/2006 11:30:28 AM (4462 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 12:15:31 PM (4408 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Robert Franco/OH
7/3/2006 12:46:51 PM (4648 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Scott Perry/PA
7/3/2006 3:19:00 PM (4390 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Mason Haas/NY
7/3/2006 3:12:57 PM (4233 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2006 3:39:11 PM (4451 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/3/2006 6:07:26 PM (4457 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/4/2006 6:47:02 AM (4511 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Robert Franco/OH
7/4/2006 2:37:56 PM (4422 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Ricky Farrow/FL
7/4/2006 11:23:56 PM (4241 views)
Re: Liability over 1M? - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/5/2006 5:46:04 AM (4354 views)

Copy Fees - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/29/2006 4:44:16 PM (2951 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
6/29/2006 5:07:31 PM (3983 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Mason Haas/NY
6/29/2006 6:51:50 PM (4176 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Wendi See/SC
6/29/2006 9:10:36 PM (4195 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:19:37 AM (3996 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Brad McCollom/IN
6/30/2006 4:48:29 PM (3860 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Michaela Urban/OH
7/3/2006 6:19:20 PM (4244 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Robb Grandon/OH
7/8/2006 6:32:08 PM (4077 views)
Re: Copy Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/8/2006 11:24:03 PM (3887 views)

Are title agencies in trouble? - Mason Haas/NY
6/29/2006 8:08:03 AM (3227 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - David Bloys/TX
6/29/2006 9:21:16 AM (5532 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - J Nisonger/CA
7/1/2006 12:33:56 AM (4167 views)
Re: Are title agencies in trouble? - David Bloys/TX
7/1/2006 1:35:46 AM (5498 views)

Quick Question?? - Michaela Urban/OH
6/28/2006 9:54:50 PM (3007 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Barbara Bennett/IN
6/28/2006 10:04:51 PM (4173 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/28/2006 10:50:06 PM (4102 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Wanda Steudel/OH
6/29/2006 9:33:28 AM (4116 views)
Re: Quick Question?? - Michaela Urban/OH
7/3/2006 6:11:35 PM (4282 views)




Bringdown or Update - Margaret Tobin/NC
6/28/2006 6:59:29 PM (3076 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 8:10:48 PM (4317 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Margaret Tobin/NC
6/29/2006 8:51:35 AM (4374 views)
Re: Bringdown or Update - Wendi See/SC
6/29/2006 10:43:10 AM (4317 views)

Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 12:18:28 PM (4082 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 12:52:59 PM (4307 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 1:15:05 PM (4306 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Jan Forster/NC
6/28/2006 1:18:09 PM (4162 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 2:51:49 PM (4142 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 6:09:38 PM (4156 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - J Nisonger/CA
6/28/2006 3:30:38 PM (4213 views)
Re: Private Information for sale, order your copy now. - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 5:42:47 PM (4159 views)

ValueAmerica - Wendy Waddell/PA
6/28/2006 7:52:34 AM (3271 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/28/2006 8:39:33 AM (4441 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Robert Franco/OH
6/28/2006 10:43:11 AM (4239 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/28/2006 11:22:28 AM (4142 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 12:58:46 PM (4494 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/29/2006 6:25:38 AM (4245 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/29/2006 4:56:38 PM (4417 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 3:16:46 AM (4345 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Scott Perry/PA
6/30/2006 7:52:17 AM (4298 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:13:17 AM (4203 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Robert Franco/OH
6/30/2006 10:46:27 AM (4076 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 11:49:47 AM (3990 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/30/2006 2:05:36 PM (4240 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Julie Jasiunas/WI
6/30/2006 12:12:33 PM (4078 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Glenda Hodge/TN
6/30/2006 12:33:20 PM (4184 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - J Nisonger/CA
6/30/2006 1:27:54 PM (4104 views)
Re: ValueAmerica - Wanda Steudel/OH
6/30/2006 3:00:22 PM (5065 views)

My turn to vent please. - J Nisonger/CA
6/28/2006 3:30:35 AM (3117 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 7:36:23 AM (4317 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/28/2006 8:51:36 AM (4318 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 10:18:21 AM (4137 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
6/28/2006 11:09:17 AM (4209 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - J Nisonger/CA
6/28/2006 11:59:02 AM (4408 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 10:43:49 PM (4089 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - J Nisonger/CA
6/30/2006 2:11:52 AM (4121 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/29/2006 6:15:02 AM (4160 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - J Nisonger/CA
6/30/2006 2:06:42 AM (4200 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Michael/KS
6/29/2006 12:52:31 PM (4134 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - J Nisonger/CA
6/30/2006 2:09:26 AM (4136 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - David Bloys/TX
6/30/2006 10:39:28 AM (4172 views)
Re: My turn to vent please. - Troy Williamson/VA
8/4/2006 5:03:54 PM (4413 views)

e-filing - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/27/2006 6:24:11 PM (2903 views)
Re: e-filing - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 11:40:35 PM (4153 views)
Re: e-filing - David Bloys/TX
6/28/2006 12:05:08 AM (5904 views)
Re: e-filing - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 12:23:24 PM (4456 views)
Re: e-filing - David Bloys/TX
6/28/2006 1:29:24 PM (4065 views)
Re: e-filing - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/28/2006 3:08:05 PM (4158 views)
Re: e-filing - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 6:26:55 PM (5704 views)
Re: e-filing - George Booth/OH
6/29/2006 6:40:54 PM (4153 views)
Re: e-filing - David Jenkins/PA
6/30/2006 9:59:18 AM (4075 views)

Can You Pass This Test??? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/27/2006 4:29:37 PM (4042 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Langdon Knight/MO
6/27/2006 4:58:09 PM (4073 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 5:01:14 PM (4010 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
6/27/2006 6:21:25 PM (4128 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 6:22:37 PM (4019 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
6/27/2006 6:23:41 PM (4056 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/27/2006 7:59:18 PM (4014 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Michael Persyn/TX
6/27/2006 8:14:24 PM (4011 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Kurt deVries/FL
6/27/2006 10:35:40 PM (3989 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - George Booth/OH
6/28/2006 2:49:41 PM (4075 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
6/28/2006 6:16:48 PM (4198 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Langdon Knight/MO
6/29/2006 12:33:43 AM (4070 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Wendi See/SC
6/29/2006 10:56:08 AM (3946 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
6/29/2006 4:15:10 PM (4136 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/29/2006 4:49:29 PM (4148 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
6/29/2006 4:59:15 PM (3840 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Jay Duncan/MO
6/29/2006 5:58:58 PM (4031 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Kurt deVries/FL
7/3/2006 11:23:23 AM (4303 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Rachel Malone/PA
7/3/2006 11:30:57 AM (4225 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Scott Perry/PA
7/3/2006 3:25:41 PM (4194 views)
Re: Can You Pass This Test??? - Rachel Malone/PA
7/4/2006 9:08:00 AM (4237 views)

Got a call from GAC.... - Loretta Reed/MD
6/27/2006 8:43:23 AM (3264 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Mason Haas/NY
6/27/2006 9:53:39 AM (4281 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Robert Franco/OH
6/27/2006 10:38:42 AM (4239 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 11:12:18 AM (4242 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Wendi See/SC
6/27/2006 11:48:33 AM (4359 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Norean /GA
6/27/2006 7:16:48 PM (4044 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 11:52:17 AM (4136 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Michaela Urban/OH
6/27/2006 7:01:22 PM (3972 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Barbara Bennett/IN
6/27/2006 10:34:57 PM (4149 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 11:39:54 PM (4043 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Matt Papsch/MD
7/5/2006 11:39:10 AM (4222 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC....what I would like to do... - Loretta Reed/MD
6/28/2006 6:37:18 PM (4177 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC....what I would like to do... - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: Got a call from GAC....what I would like to do... - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:16:49 AM (4150 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/5/2006 12:34:44 PM (4248 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Kim Haase/MT
7/12/2006 12:46:12 PM (4044 views)
Re: Got a call from GAC.... - Helene /GA
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5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Jay Duncan/MO
6/26/2006 7:15:12 PM (2960 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Dave Pell/GA
6/26/2006 7:26:04 PM (4208 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/26/2006 11:21:21 PM (4251 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Robert Franco/OH
6/27/2006 12:35:42 AM (4313 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 10:17:38 AM (4350 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Robert Franco/OH
6/27/2006 10:41:29 AM (3981 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Lisa Ramsey/TX
6/27/2006 11:08:51 AM (3935 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Wendi See/SC
6/27/2006 11:54:28 AM (3888 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Kurt deVries/FL
6/27/2006 12:04:01 PM (4102 views)
Re: 5000 Listings and Still Growing - SOT - Robert Franco/OH
6/27/2006 12:36:48 PM (3893 views)

Hey Angelica! Infinity email - J Nisonger/CA
6/26/2006 5:39:14 PM (4092 views)
Re: Hey Angelica! Infinity email - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/26/2006 11:18:50 PM (4353 views)
Re: Hey Angelica! Infinity email - J Nisonger/CA
6/27/2006 4:13:03 AM (4287 views)
Re: Hey Angelica! Infinity email - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/28/2006 10:26:14 AM (4025 views)
Re: Hey Angelica! Infinity email - J Nisonger/CA
6/28/2006 12:04:43 PM (4313 views)
Re: Hey Angelica! Infinity email - Angelica Schneider/IN
6/30/2006 9:18:18 AM (4132 views)

Only One More Listing Needed!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
6/26/2006 5:19:09 PM (2844 views)
Re: Only One More Listing Needed!!! - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
6/26/2006 5:29:53 PM (4077 views)


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