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Hot and Cold Lists - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/12/2006 8:13:32 AM (2625 views)
Re: Hot and Cold Lists - Robert Franco/OH
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Think Your County Is Rough? - David Bloys/TX
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Re: Think Your County Is Rough? - Michael Persyn/TX
9/18/2006 8:01:09 PM (3167 views)

companies that don't pay - donna little/CT
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Re: companies that don't pay - Bob  Goeppner/MA
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BACKGROUND SEARCH - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
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Don't Ever Forget! - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
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Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Danielle Nelson/WI
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Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
9/12/2006 10:26:47 AM (3465 views)
Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/12/2006 11:48:23 AM (3408 views)
Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Don't Ever Forget! - Kurt deVries/FL
9/13/2006 11:18:04 AM (3265 views)


Real Title Services


Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Robert Franco/OH
9/7/2006 1:54:59 PM (2621 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/7/2006 4:40:24 PM (3655 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Robert Franco/OH
9/7/2006 4:47:40 PM (3717 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/7/2006 5:24:59 PM (3729 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/7/2006 5:43:09 PM (3556 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/7/2006 6:14:15 PM (3605 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/7/2006 6:37:24 PM (3678 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2006 9:41:12 AM (3425 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Wendi See/SC
9/7/2006 8:03:53 PM (3604 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2006 9:45:52 AM (3302 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Wendi See/SC
9/8/2006 9:52:22 AM (3368 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/8/2006 10:16:06 AM (3526 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2006 11:32:25 AM (3495 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/8/2006 12:41:12 PM (3518 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/8/2006 5:56:49 PM (3497 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Wendi See/SC
9/8/2006 8:18:14 PM (3390 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/8/2006 10:52:44 PM (3481 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/11/2006 3:48:26 PM (3420 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/11/2006 5:17:05 PM (3310 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Smitty Strickland/SC
9/12/2006 8:09:44 AM (3381 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Paul Richards/UT
9/11/2006 12:41:05 AM (3279 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Jan Forster/NC
9/11/2006 3:52:59 AM (3404 views)
Re: Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Donna McCullough/SC
9/11/2006 12:57:11 PM (3543 views)

SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/6/2006 6:40:54 PM (2830 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/6/2006 8:46:20 PM (5189 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/6/2006 10:59:02 PM (3591 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/7/2006 11:53:00 AM (3736 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/7/2006 7:30:31 PM (3564 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Scott Perry/PA
9/7/2006 8:42:05 PM (3497 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2006 12:03:16 AM (3382 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2006 7:04:48 AM (3326 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/10/2006 12:00:50 PM (3533 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2006 12:21:48 PM (3409 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/10/2006 8:57:24 PM (3501 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/10/2006 10:51:13 PM (3356 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 5:38:25 AM (3431 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/11/2006 9:30:17 AM (3301 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 9:47:10 AM (3347 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/11/2006 11:55:49 AM (3530 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 12:27:54 PM (3573 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2006 12:28:28 PM (3578 views)

The problem is that the exam fee/or search fee on the HUD is going to show payable to the title company - not the subcontractor (at least all that I have seen).  Therefore, if XYZ title company charges the customer $200 for an exam fee, that accurately reflects the transaction; i.e. XYZ charged the customer $200 and the customer paid them $200.  The HUD does not reflect that XYZ owes Johnny Abstractor anything.  The transaction between the title company and the abstractor is a contract matter between them and does not involve the consumer.   

Section 8(b) of RESPA provides that "No person shall give and no person shall accept any portion, split, or percentage of any charge made or received for the rendering of a real estate settlement service in connection with a transaction involving a federally related mortgage loan other than for services actually performed."  I believe that this has been interpreted to mean that the settlement service provider cannot mark-up fees unless they have added value to the service.  In cases where the search and exam are lumped together, the examination the title company performs based on the title search would certainly be an added value.  Even when the title company shows a separate search fee, in addition to the exam fee, they certainly have expenses in obtaining the search that I would think they could legitimately add to the fee.

I guess we will have to wait and see how HUD responds to the complaints that have been filed.  Personally, I don't think that RESPA was intended to encompass this matter. 

This is an interesting discussion. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/11/2006 7:41:44 PM (3252 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - John Povejsil/MN
9/11/2006 9:57:37 AM (3498 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/11/2006 10:54:58 PM (3319 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/12/2006 7:04:39 AM (3334 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/12/2006 12:40:06 PM (3397 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/12/2006 8:47:32 PM (3361 views)

Title Services USA (NY) - Research Specialists/TX
9/6/2006 1:59:03 PM (2778 views)
Re: Title Services USA (NY) - Jay Duncan/MO
9/6/2006 3:21:16 PM (4941 views)
Re: Title Services USA (NY) - Research Specialists/TX
9/7/2006 1:54:19 AM (3392 views)
Re: Title Services USA (NY) - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
9/11/2006 8:46:02 AM (3369 views)

non payment - Laura McGuire/RI
9/5/2006 4:08:52 PM (2910 views)
Re: non payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2006 5:39:15 PM (3632 views)
Re: non payment - Laura McGuire/MA
9/11/2006 4:23:33 AM (3423 views)
Re: non payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 5:49:47 AM (3468 views)
Re: non payment - George Booth/TX
9/11/2006 8:55:11 AM (3495 views)
Re: non payment - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 9:57:18 AM (3340 views)
Re: non payment - chris schaefer/PA
9/7/2006 12:30:57 AM (3401 views)
Re: non payment - Pam Jones/NJ
9/11/2006 10:29:25 AM (3525 views)
Re: non payment - Wendi See/SC
9/7/2006 8:09:16 PM (3448 views)

AFX Corp. Inc. - Jacqueline Costa/RI
9/5/2006 1:17:59 PM (3028 views)
Re: AFX Corp. Inc. - Lori Cassidy/CT
9/5/2006 1:43:04 PM (3456 views)
Re: AFX Corp. Inc. - Dave Pell/GA
9/5/2006 3:11:12 PM (3455 views)
Re: AFX Corp. Inc. - Pam Jones/NJ
9/11/2006 10:27:10 AM (3453 views)
Re: AFX Corp. Inc. - Dave Pell/GA
9/11/2006 12:50:01 PM (3498 views)

E & O insurance in GA - Leroy Lewis/GA
9/5/2006 11:46:28 AM (2762 views)
Re: E & O insurance in GA - Robert Franco/OH
9/5/2006 2:33:07 PM (3295 views)
Re: E & O insurance in GA - Helene /GA
9/27/2006 11:42:02 PM (3119 views)

District Clerk Speaks Out - David Bloys/TX
9/4/2006 10:47:27 PM (3769 views)
Re: District Clerk Speaks Out - Jan Forster/NC
9/4/2006 11:41:57 PM (3581 views)

Are you Concerned? - Jan Forster/NC
9/4/2006 9:36:46 AM (2674 views)
Re: Are you Concerned? - David Bloys/TX
9/4/2006 10:36:09 PM (3496 views)
Re: Are you Concerned? - Jan Forster/NC
9/4/2006 11:47:30 PM (3549 views)
Re: Are you Concerned? - J Nisonger/CA
9/5/2006 3:43:45 AM (3292 views)
Re: Are you Concerned? - Jan Forster/NC
9/5/2006 8:59:18 AM (3417 views)

E&O Insurance - Mary Ann Bridge/PA
9/3/2006 10:48:22 PM (2817 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Glenda Hodge/TN
9/4/2006 2:07:21 AM (3480 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - George Booth/TX
9/4/2006 7:01:31 AM (3510 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/4/2006 12:16:05 PM (3394 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2006 5:59:31 PM (4983 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/4/2006 10:47:01 PM (3457 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Mary Ann Bridge/PA
9/5/2006 4:05:29 PM (3506 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Scott Tregurtha/NJ
9/5/2006 8:06:52 AM (3544 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
9/5/2006 10:06:15 AM (4998 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Sandra Morton/KS
9/5/2006 9:34:50 AM (3645 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
9/5/2006 5:17:13 PM (3547 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - L ROLAND/CA
9/5/2006 7:57:30 PM (3433 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - donna little/CT
9/11/2006 7:13:09 AM (3435 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Leroy Lewis/GA
9/11/2006 9:15:12 AM (3447 views)
Re: E&O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2006 10:37:41 AM (4951 views)

Zaba Search - Database - Jay Duncan/MO
9/3/2006 12:27:33 AM (4845 views)
Re: Zaba Search - Database - David Bloys/TX
9/3/2006 1:17:17 PM (3770 views)
Re: Zaba Search - Database - Scott Perry/PA
9/4/2006 12:42:34 PM (3481 views)
Re: Zaba Search - Database - David Bloys/TX
9/4/2006 10:39:50 PM (3521 views)
Re: Zaba Search - Database - Sandra Morton/KS
9/5/2006 2:34:08 PM (3539 views)


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