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Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
4/9/2021 1:41:51 PM (3366 views)
Re: Sanrit - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Sanrit - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Sanrit - Ron Beavers/FL
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avanzegroup.com? - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
4/9/2021 10:24:17 AM (3704 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? TYSM for the reply!! (Can't post in message, IDK why) - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:03:42 AM (3760 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Rene Blevins/VA
4/12/2021 11:35:05 AM (3833 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
4/12/2021 11:50:21 AM (3741 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/12/2021 12:28:45 PM (3729 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
4/27/2021 6:21:45 PM (3721 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
5/3/2021 3:01:24 PM (3559 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2022 8:56:06 PM (2455 views)
Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
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Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (3015 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
4/8/2021 3:49:17 PM (3909 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
4/12/2021 10:29:02 AM (3821 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/12/2021 11:01:20 AM (3646 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:55:48 PM (3717 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
4/28/2021 10:33:43 AM (3510 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/28/2021 10:44:25 AM (3356 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
5/3/2021 10:33:53 AM (3360 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
5/7/2021 6:46:17 AM (3460 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (3591 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
4/4/2021 1:42:00 PM (3535 views)

PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
3/31/2021 7:37:46 PM (2096 views)




Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (2885 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (4020 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
4/1/2021 5:20:24 PM (3699 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/2/2021 8:22:04 AM (3745 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (3505 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (3557 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (3557 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (3194 views)

So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2660 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (3551 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (2587 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (3263 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (3215 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (3577 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (2046 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1877 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1927 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (3322 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (4252 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (3547 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (2553 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (3459 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (3255 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (3297 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (3267 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (3351 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (3210 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (2673 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (4037 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (3439 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (3538 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (3476 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (3295 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (3381 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (3292 views)
Again, if the general public starts searching their own properties, then there's no need for abstractors/searchers within the industry is what you are basically telling me.  

And, as an examiner, it's bad enough that there are "professional" searchers who miss deeds, easements, etc as is.  Heaven help us if the average Joe starts questioning professional services because they think they can DIY a 60 year property search.

Your job at stake, not mine   LOL  

The reality is that the "title theft" angle has to be an elaborate scheme set up by multiple parties in order to "steal" a deed.

And, as I mentioned before, if a homeowner received documentation stating they were being foreclosed on, why would they ignore it?

I was a witness to a case where a property was "sold" 4 times.  The first sale was legit to a point, with the Sellers being the actual sellers and took place in an attorney's office with me as the title witness closer only doing pick ups and marking up the binder.

The 3 subsequent "sales" were done within 5 days of the original closing.  Same "buyer" as the first closing.  Had a NJ DL for ID.  The subsequent "sellers" were ringers who looked very much like the real sellers, physically.

Apparently, a car dealership had been hacked and ID theft of all their clients.  Think about it, a dealership has the same info on a buyer, esp if they financed the car.  So name, ID, address, SS etc

The subsquent sales were conducted by attorneys.  The all accepted a "payoff" statement from the existing lender being paid off bc funds from the first transaction was wired to the bank.  However, that bank did not provide a ZERO BALANCE letter.  They accepted the old payoff statement only and did not question anything raised a red flag:

1. Why is the Seller paying off a mortgage that had been 6 months in arrears, just 2 days before closing?

2. Where did the Seller obtain funds, since they had not made a house payment in 6 months?

3. Where was proof and source of funds?

The list goes on and on.  The person whose Identity was stolen knew nothing about these transactions.  They were not against his property.  The theft ring used only his name and credit, but not his address.

So, he received notices that he was in foreclosure from 4 different banks on a property he had never owned.

Now, flip this entire idea back to a person who owns a property.  If you started receiving notices that your loan is behind, you would not question that if  A. You don't have a mortgage?  B. You have a mortgage but your payments are on time.

The premise of the "Title Theft" insurance is to make sure your deed is secure?  It's pretty unlikely that someone is going to just waltz in and make a copy of your deed to gain access to your info.  Your deed is signed by who you bought it from.  Your deed does not have your signature on it.

So, that means the thief would need to have a document with your signature on it.   Well, a mortgage would have the signature, sure.  But what if you don't have a mortgage?

Then you have to take the whole thing through the closing process.  So, the notary would have to be in on it, b/c they have to ID you, a bank/loan office would have to be in on it, since they take all your financials, the title agency would have to be in on it, b/c yes, we DO look at signatures to make sure they match documents, whoever is conducting the closing would have to be in on it, b/c they have to verify your source of funds, etc.

So in essence, it's not really that easy to create a bogus deed, obtain a new mortgage and close on it.  The standard risk protocols would question how the "new deed holder" came into title.

Title insurance manages the risk. 


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Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (3650 views)

Abstractor Watchdog - DEBRA ALLEN/KS
3/16/2021 11:46:52 AM (3308 views)
Re: Abstractor Watchdog - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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Re: Abstractor Watchdog - John Baker/OH
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