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[-] SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN (23 replies)
9/6/2006 6:40:54 PM (2999 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/6/2006 8:46:20 PM (5821 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/6/2006 10:59:02 PM (4129 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/7/2006 11:53:00 AM (4247 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/7/2006 7:30:31 PM (4143 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2006 12:03:16 AM (3877 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/10/2006 10:51:13 PM (3902 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 9:47:10 AM (3838 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/11/2006 11:55:49 AM (4005 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 12:27:54 PM (4106 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2006 12:28:28 PM (4137 views)

The problem is that the exam fee/or search fee on the HUD is going to show payable to the title company - not the subcontractor (at least all that I have seen).  Therefore, if XYZ title company charges the customer $200 for an exam fee, that accurately reflects the transaction; i.e. XYZ charged the customer $200 and the customer paid them $200.  The HUD does not reflect that XYZ owes Johnny Abstractor anything.  The transaction between the title company and the abstractor is a contract matter between them and does not involve the consumer.   

Section 8(b) of RESPA provides that "No person shall give and no person shall accept any portion, split, or percentage of any charge made or received for the rendering of a real estate settlement service in connection with a transaction involving a federally related mortgage loan other than for services actually performed."  I believe that this has been interpreted to mean that the settlement service provider cannot mark-up fees unless they have added value to the service.  In cases where the search and exam are lumped together, the examination the title company performs based on the title search would certainly be an added value.  Even when the title company shows a separate search fee, in addition to the exam fee, they certainly have expenses in obtaining the search that I would think they could legitimately add to the fee.

I guess we will have to wait and see how HUD responds to the complaints that have been filed.  Personally, I don't think that RESPA was intended to encompass this matter. 

This is an interesting discussion. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/11/2006 7:41:44 PM (3799 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - John Povejsil/MN
9/11/2006 9:57:37 AM (4054 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/11/2006 10:54:58 PM (3857 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/12/2006 7:04:39 AM (3892 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/12/2006 12:40:06 PM (3909 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/12/2006 8:47:32 PM (3919 views)


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