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[+] Anyone ever do work for? - terry sutton/CT (3 replies)
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[+] It's almost time.... - Loretta Reed/MD (7 replies)
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[+] Outsourcing - tj/DE (15 replies)
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[+] Hot and Cold Lists - Smitty Strickland/SC (2 replies)
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[+] companies that don't pay - donna little/CT (1 reply)
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BACKGROUND SEARCH - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
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[+] Don't Ever Forget! - Kurt deVries/FL (6 replies)
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[+] Title Camp in the Carolinas... - Robert Franco/OH (22 replies)
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[-] SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN (23 replies)
9/6/2006 6:40:54 PM (2857 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/6/2006 8:46:20 PM (5301 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/6/2006 10:59:02 PM (3682 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/7/2006 11:53:00 AM (3822 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/7/2006 7:30:31 PM (3662 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Scott Perry/PA
9/7/2006 8:42:05 PM (3572 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2006 12:03:16 AM (3449 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2006 7:04:48 AM (3405 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/10/2006 12:00:50 PM (3629 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2006 12:21:48 PM (3508 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/10/2006 8:57:24 PM (3606 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/10/2006 10:51:13 PM (3451 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 5:38:25 AM (3493 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/11/2006 9:30:17 AM (3369 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 9:47:10 AM (3418 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Ricky Farrow/FL
9/11/2006 11:55:49 AM (3598 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2006 12:27:54 PM (3654 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2006 12:28:28 PM (3682 views)

The problem is that the exam fee/or search fee on the HUD is going to show payable to the title company - not the subcontractor (at least all that I have seen).  Therefore, if XYZ title company charges the customer $200 for an exam fee, that accurately reflects the transaction; i.e. XYZ charged the customer $200 and the customer paid them $200.  The HUD does not reflect that XYZ owes Johnny Abstractor anything.  The transaction between the title company and the abstractor is a contract matter between them and does not involve the consumer.   

Section 8(b) of RESPA provides that "No person shall give and no person shall accept any portion, split, or percentage of any charge made or received for the rendering of a real estate settlement service in connection with a transaction involving a federally related mortgage loan other than for services actually performed."  I believe that this has been interpreted to mean that the settlement service provider cannot mark-up fees unless they have added value to the service.  In cases where the search and exam are lumped together, the examination the title company performs based on the title search would certainly be an added value.  Even when the title company shows a separate search fee, in addition to the exam fee, they certainly have expenses in obtaining the search that I would think they could legitimately add to the fee.

I guess we will have to wait and see how HUD responds to the complaints that have been filed.  Personally, I don't think that RESPA was intended to encompass this matter. 

This is an interesting discussion. 

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Angelica Schneider/IN
9/11/2006 7:41:44 PM (3350 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - John Povejsil/MN
9/11/2006 9:57:37 AM (3592 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/11/2006 10:54:58 PM (3411 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/12/2006 7:04:39 AM (3426 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/12/2006 12:40:06 PM (3478 views)
Re: SUBMIT COMPLAINT TO RESPA - Candis Richter/NJ
9/12/2006 8:47:32 PM (3454 views)

[+] Title Services USA (NY) - Research Specialists/TX (3 replies)
9/6/2006 1:59:03 PM (2807 views)

[+] non payment - Laura McGuire/RI (8 replies)
9/5/2006 4:08:52 PM (2931 views)

[+] AFX Corp. Inc. - Jacqueline Costa/RI (4 replies)
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[+] E & O insurance in GA - Leroy Lewis/GA (2 replies)
9/5/2006 11:46:28 AM (2791 views)

[+] District Clerk Speaks Out - David Bloys/TX (1 reply)
9/4/2006 10:47:27 PM (3799 views)


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