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Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/27/2006 11:13:37 PM (3356 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/28/2006 12:55:25 PM (3588 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/28/2006 1:47:37 PM (3665 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/28/2006 2:23:09 PM (3467 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2006 5:36:32 PM (3565 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - P/AL
12/28/2006 2:12:01 PM (3486 views)

You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 2:10:56 PM (2821 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 3:04:30 PM (3545 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2006 3:25:21 PM (3627 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 3:32:27 PM (3529 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 5:37:53 PM (3515 views)
Guys...I do foreclosures. Robert, while your case is undoubtedly valid case law...it is an extreme example. There are safety valves built into foreclosure actions to reopen the case within a certain time period...cite in the lender that was not included as a defendant...amend the complaint, and foreclose the additional lender's mortgage. If the time period for reopening has lapsed there is the ability to file a claim for title insurance. The title insurer impleads the abstractor to seek reimbursement from his e&o insurer.

Not to sure how you guys handle foreclosures in Ohio, but here in Connecticut no less than three title searches are done in connection with a foreclosure. The initial search is to determine who are the encumbracers on the property. All encumbrancers are listed in the complaint. Senior encumbrancers are not named as defendants...junior encumbrancers are because it is their interests that are being foreclosed.

Most foreclosures never go to trial in Connecticut. Most of the time the defendant is defaulted for failure to disclose a defense (He usually does not have one). The case is then resolved through a motion for judgment of either strict foreclosure or foreclosure by sale. If the Defendant does assert a defense...the matter is usually resolved through a motion for summary judgment.

A second title search is performed by the Plaintiff to avoid precisely the problem that Robert has described. It determines whether any parties were missed the first time round, and if there are new encumbrancers who recorded after the foreclosure was filed and a lis pendens was recorded. If the new encumbrancers  recorded their liens after the lis pendens was recorded, they are foreclosed without any need to cite them in as  defendants. If they recorded after the last title search and filing of the case, but before the lis pendens was recorded, they must be cited in as  defendants to foreclose their  interests. You never proceed with a judgment after default or a motion for summary judgment until the second title search has been completed.


After judgment has been entered and title has passed to the Plaintiff by strict foreclosure or foreclosure by sale, a third and final title search is completed prior to recording the foreclosure certificate or the foreclosure committee deed.

I think the case that you have cited above can be distinguished on the facts from the scenario described by George. If I understand Robert's case there was the matter of a missed mortgage in a foreclosure action involving a subsequent sale by warranty deed and a subsequent suit for breach of warranty. It would seem that ultimately among the parties to the suit a claim for title insurance would be filed, and the matter would most likely be settled.

If I understand George's scenario...the home owner is filing a questionable claim for no other purpose that to get out from under a foreclosure action filed by his lender...isn't gonna happen. If the mortgage being foreclosed has priority, the encumbrance will be foreclosed. If the lien in question has priority over the mortgage, it is a matter to be resolved by the lender's title insurer.

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Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 5:49:45 PM (3394 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 5:55:08 PM (3411 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/28/2006 3:13:03 AM (3380 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/28/2006 6:46:17 AM (3373 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/28/2006 12:14:43 AM (3465 views)

Words of Wisdom from a Pro - Jan Forster/NC
12/26/2006 10:51:32 PM (1991 views)

Thinking some bad thoughts... - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/26/2006 9:11:46 PM (2507 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Jan Forster/NC
12/26/2006 10:44:57 PM (3393 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/27/2006 2:42:29 PM (3413 views)
Re: Still able to take up space in Directory? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/27/2006 8:13:30 PM (3209 views)
Re: Still able to take up space in Directory? - Robert Franco/OH
12/28/2006 1:33:42 PM (3191 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Dorothy Payne/NY
12/27/2006 10:20:22 PM (3337 views)

AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Christine Sheeler/PA
12/26/2006 2:16:18 PM (2684 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2006 9:02:02 PM (3428 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - HAL DICKSON/VA
12/27/2006 10:57:31 PM (3307 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
12/30/2006 12:44:39 PM (3237 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Christine Sheeler/PA
1/2/2007 2:59:37 PM (3160 views)




An Absolute present... - monica froese/ME
12/22/2006 6:45:46 PM (2480 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - george Hubka/MI
12/22/2006 7:42:50 PM (3249 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Becky Kale/IL
1/2/2007 5:45:20 PM (3238 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Loretta Reed/MD
1/3/2007 7:59:24 AM (3160 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Scott Perry/PA
1/3/2007 9:01:41 PM (3168 views)

NALTEA Conference Update! - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2006 5:06:32 PM (3519 views)
Re: NALTEA Conference Update! - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2006 10:10:50 AM (5234 views)

"For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2006 4:41:22 PM (2510 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2006 6:15:27 PM (3482 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/22/2006 7:33:59 PM (3429 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2006 7:47:55 PM (3311 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/22/2006 11:05:26 PM (3406 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/23/2006 6:06:28 PM (3306 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/26/2006 10:03:22 AM (3421 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Dorothy Payne/NY
12/22/2006 8:31:08 PM (3530 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kurt deVries/FL
12/23/2006 9:40:45 PM (3303 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/24/2006 7:03:51 AM (3379 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2006 12:55:56 PM (3382 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/24/2006 3:58:39 PM (3308 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2006 4:43:02 PM (3386 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
12/24/2006 7:00:02 PM (3385 views)

Think you've had a bad day? - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2006 3:16:20 PM (3703 views)
Re: Think you've had a bad day? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2006 3:56:33 PM (3206 views)

DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 1:50:25 PM (2835 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 2:07:36 PM (3511 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:46:34 PM (3446 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - george Hubka/MI
12/21/2006 4:46:57 PM (3554 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 8:04:05 PM (3445 views)

Nasco and Land Am - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/21/2006 12:32:15 PM (2678 views)
Re: Nasco and Land Am - George Booth/OH
12/21/2006 12:51:52 PM (3581 views)
Re: Nasco and Land Am - Patrick/AL
12/26/2006 11:00:36 PM (3480 views)

DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/20/2006 7:53:54 PM (2889 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Jan Forster/NC
12/21/2006 8:48:46 AM (3725 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 10:33:05 AM (3612 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Nita Farrow/FL
12/21/2006 2:25:09 PM (3682 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:53:47 PM (3654 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 12:52:26 PM (3655 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/21/2006 1:42:19 PM (3549 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 1:54:52 PM (3553 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 2:00:16 PM (3586 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 3:08:33 PM (3638 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:38:43 PM (3539 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/21/2006 7:40:35 PM (3807 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 8:57:59 PM (3596 views)

Southern Title Resources - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
12/20/2006 6:45:51 PM (2005 views)

Contemporary Realty - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2006 3:26:33 PM (2525 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/20/2006 6:47:38 PM (3453 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Chris Konzel/NY
12/20/2006 7:48:11 PM (3536 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2006 11:04:20 AM (3281 views)

Non-payment Reliable Property - Joanie Hahr/VT
12/20/2006 12:24:19 PM (2658 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2006 3:23:41 PM (3473 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Chris Konzel/NY
12/20/2006 7:46:01 PM (3477 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Sandra Morton/KS
12/26/2006 1:23:16 PM (3477 views)


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