Here I am, sticking my neck out again, but we've been given another website for these off-topic discussions, why aren't we using it?  If I was a potential customer visiting SOT for the first time looking for an abstractor and I saw this post I would run like the wind in the opposite direction.  This conversation has no place in a business website.  I want to make money during the business day.  I'll debate your vaious opinions after hours.