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Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/27/2006 11:13:37 PM (3266 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/28/2006 12:55:25 PM (3296 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/28/2006 1:47:37 PM (3394 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/28/2006 2:23:09 PM (3183 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2006 5:36:32 PM (3288 views)
Re: Beware of Southern Group aka Anthony Prince - P/AL
12/28/2006 2:12:01 PM (3200 views)

You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 2:10:56 PM (2697 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 3:04:30 PM (3232 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/27/2006 3:25:21 PM (3316 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 3:32:27 PM (3242 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 5:37:53 PM (3216 views)
Guys...I do foreclosures. Robert, while your case is undoubtedly valid case law...it is an extreme example. There are safety valves built into foreclosure actions to reopen the case within a certain time period...cite in the lender that was not included as a defendant...amend the complaint, and foreclose the additional lender's mortgage. If the time period for reopening has lapsed there is the ability to file a claim for title insurance. The title insurer impleads the abstractor to seek reimbursement from his e&o insurer.

Not to sure how you guys handle foreclosures in Ohio, but here in Connecticut no less than three title searches are done in connection with a foreclosure. The initial search is to determine who are the encumbracers on the property. All encumbrancers are listed in the complaint. Senior encumbrancers are not named as defendants...junior encumbrancers are because it is their interests that are being foreclosed.

Most foreclosures never go to trial in Connecticut. Most of the time the defendant is defaulted for failure to disclose a defense (He usually does not have one). The case is then resolved through a motion for judgment of either strict foreclosure or foreclosure by sale. If the Defendant does assert a defense...the matter is usually resolved through a motion for summary judgment.

A second title search is performed by the Plaintiff to avoid precisely the problem that Robert has described. It determines whether any parties were missed the first time round, and if there are new encumbrancers who recorded after the foreclosure was filed and a lis pendens was recorded. If the new encumbrancers  recorded their liens after the lis pendens was recorded, they are foreclosed without any need to cite them in as  defendants. If they recorded after the last title search and filing of the case, but before the lis pendens was recorded, they must be cited in as  defendants to foreclose their  interests. You never proceed with a judgment after default or a motion for summary judgment until the second title search has been completed.


After judgment has been entered and title has passed to the Plaintiff by strict foreclosure or foreclosure by sale, a third and final title search is completed prior to recording the foreclosure certificate or the foreclosure committee deed.

I think the case that you have cited above can be distinguished on the facts from the scenario described by George. If I understand Robert's case there was the matter of a missed mortgage in a foreclosure action involving a subsequent sale by warranty deed and a subsequent suit for breach of warranty. It would seem that ultimately among the parties to the suit a claim for title insurance would be filed, and the matter would most likely be settled.

If I understand George's scenario...the home owner is filing a questionable claim for no other purpose that to get out from under a foreclosure action filed by his lender...isn't gonna happen. If the mortgage being foreclosed has priority, the encumbrance will be foreclosed. If the lien in question has priority over the mortgage, it is a matter to be resolved by the lender's title insurer.

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Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/27/2006 5:49:45 PM (3099 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/27/2006 5:55:08 PM (3113 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - George Booth/OH
12/28/2006 3:13:03 AM (3073 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/28/2006 6:46:17 AM (3060 views)
Re: You won't like this prediction.... - Robert Franco/OH
12/28/2006 12:14:43 AM (3161 views)

Words of Wisdom from a Pro - Jan Forster/NC
12/26/2006 10:51:32 PM (1901 views)

Thinking some bad thoughts... - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/26/2006 9:11:46 PM (2425 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Jan Forster/NC
12/26/2006 10:44:57 PM (3094 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/27/2006 2:42:29 PM (3106 views)
Re: Still able to take up space in Directory? - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/27/2006 8:13:30 PM (2901 views)
Re: Still able to take up space in Directory? - Robert Franco/OH
12/28/2006 1:33:42 PM (2889 views)
Re: Thinking some bad thoughts... - Dorothy Payne/NY
12/27/2006 10:20:22 PM (3046 views)

AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Christine Sheeler/PA
12/26/2006 2:16:18 PM (2599 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2006 9:02:02 PM (3116 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - HAL DICKSON/VA
12/27/2006 10:57:31 PM (2997 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
12/30/2006 12:44:39 PM (2909 views)
Re: AccuQuick Abstracting, Inc. - Christine Sheeler/PA
1/2/2007 2:59:37 PM (2831 views)




An Absolute present... - monica froese/ME
12/22/2006 6:45:46 PM (2410 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - george Hubka/MI
12/22/2006 7:42:50 PM (2957 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Becky Kale/IL
1/2/2007 5:45:20 PM (2942 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Loretta Reed/MD
1/3/2007 7:59:24 AM (2858 views)
Re: An Absolute present... - Scott Perry/PA
1/3/2007 9:01:41 PM (2838 views)

NALTEA Conference Update! - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2006 5:06:32 PM (3428 views)
Re: NALTEA Conference Update! - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2006 10:10:50 AM (4909 views)

"For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2006 4:41:22 PM (2422 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Jay Duncan/MO
12/22/2006 6:15:27 PM (3141 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/22/2006 7:33:59 PM (3100 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/22/2006 7:47:55 PM (2987 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/22/2006 11:05:26 PM (3077 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/23/2006 6:06:28 PM (2982 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/26/2006 10:03:22 AM (3090 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Dorothy Payne/NY
12/22/2006 8:31:08 PM (3174 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kurt deVries/FL
12/23/2006 9:40:45 PM (2975 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/24/2006 7:03:51 AM (3068 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2006 12:55:56 PM (3080 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/24/2006 3:58:39 PM (2991 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2006 4:43:02 PM (3068 views)
Re: "For unto us a child is born... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
12/24/2006 7:00:02 PM (3076 views)

Think you've had a bad day? - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2006 3:16:20 PM (3624 views)
Re: Think you've had a bad day? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2006 3:56:33 PM (2893 views)

DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 1:50:25 PM (2742 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 2:07:36 PM (3205 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:46:34 PM (3134 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - george Hubka/MI
12/21/2006 4:46:57 PM (3235 views)
Re: DRI Title-- clarification - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 8:04:05 PM (3122 views)

Nasco and Land Am - Rebecca Barney/FL
12/21/2006 12:32:15 PM (2581 views)
Re: Nasco and Land Am - George Booth/OH
12/21/2006 12:51:52 PM (3252 views)
Re: Nasco and Land Am - Patrick/AL
12/26/2006 11:00:36 PM (3171 views)

DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/20/2006 7:53:54 PM (2751 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Jan Forster/NC
12/21/2006 8:48:46 AM (3395 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 10:33:05 AM (3280 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Nita Farrow/FL
12/21/2006 2:25:09 PM (3371 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:53:47 PM (3348 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 12:52:26 PM (3361 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/21/2006 1:42:19 PM (3231 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 1:54:52 PM (3245 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - DEED RESEARCH INC./NE
12/21/2006 2:00:16 PM (3269 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 3:08:33 PM (3314 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 2:38:43 PM (3224 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Angelica Schneider/IN
12/21/2006 7:40:35 PM (3493 views)
Re: DRI Title & Escrow-- payment problems - Patrick Tarr/NE
12/21/2006 8:57:59 PM (3264 views)

Southern Title Resources - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
12/20/2006 6:45:51 PM (1920 views)

Contemporary Realty - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2006 3:26:33 PM (2447 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
12/20/2006 6:47:38 PM (3119 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Chris Konzel/NY
12/20/2006 7:48:11 PM (3213 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Kurt deVries/FL
12/21/2006 11:04:20 AM (2991 views)

Non-payment Reliable Property - Joanie Hahr/VT
12/20/2006 12:24:19 PM (2578 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Kurt deVries/FL
12/20/2006 3:23:41 PM (3147 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Chris Konzel/NY
12/20/2006 7:46:01 PM (3158 views)
Re: Non-payment Reliable Property - Sandra Morton/KS
12/26/2006 1:23:16 PM (3160 views)


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