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Absolute - Langdon Knight/MO
1/19/2007 12:32:38 PM (2650 views)
Re: Absolute - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/20/2007 8:06:04 AM (3653 views)
Re: Absolute - Langdon Knight/MO
1/21/2007 2:16:29 PM (3493 views)
Re: Absolute - Wayne Schutt II/NY
1/23/2007 11:56:42 AM (3630 views)
Absolute now Eclipse ????? - george Hubka/MI
1/28/2007 2:19:51 PM (3602 views)

Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (3266 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2370 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (3563 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2309 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (3509 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2612 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (3482 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (3517 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (3512 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (3427 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (3444 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (3351 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (3369 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (3484 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (3393 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (3384 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (3387 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (3544 views)




ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3583 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (3224 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (3357 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (3236 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (3133 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2450 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (3655 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (3472 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (3354 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (3817 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (3553 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (3570 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2437 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (5638 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (3816 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (2066 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2492 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (3383 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (3439 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (3461 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (5746 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (3448 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (5682 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (5665 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (3441 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (3426 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2451 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (5676 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (3438 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (3553 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (3430 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (3366 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (3380 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (3312 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (3448 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (3279 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (3412 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (3308 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (2052 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3506 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (3249 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (3214 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (3106 views)


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