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Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (3162 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2294 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (3291 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2229 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (3225 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2476 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (3206 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (3242 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (3235 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (3164 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (3152 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (3091 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (3097 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (3188 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (3119 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (3119 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (3112 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (3235 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3480 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (2960 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (3008 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (2955 views)




Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (3038 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2368 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (3288 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (3144 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (3016 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (3503 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (3211 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (3239 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2330 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (5286 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (3180 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1994 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2383 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (3083 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (3150 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (3155 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (5409 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (3136 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (5356 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (5344 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (3132 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (3101 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2371 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (5349 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (3135 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (3238 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (3138 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (3028 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (3051 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (2998 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (3130 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (2969 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (3105 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (3001 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1971 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3413 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (2943 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (2927 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (3017 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3672 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (3340 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (5577 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (3256 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (3203 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (3158 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (3274 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (3172 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (3159 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (3176 views)


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