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Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (3066 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2183 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (2884 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2118 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (2860 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2383 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (2820 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (2826 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (2869 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (2798 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (2768 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (2736 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (2748 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (2788 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (2752 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (2760 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (2733 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (2865 views)

ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3363 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (2607 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (2657 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (2610 views)


Real Title Services


Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2949 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2267 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (2849 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (2776 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (2699 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (3116 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (2858 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (2884 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2238 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (4912 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (2794 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1888 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2249 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (2755 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (2815 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (2813 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (5051 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (2804 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (5014 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (5000 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (2766 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (2766 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2262 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (5024 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (2809 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (2920 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (2814 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (2729 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (2743 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (2693 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (2805 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (2676 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (2758 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (2686 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1907 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3303 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (2664 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (2634 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2939 views)

Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/11/2007 1:41:04 PM (3554 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Chris Konzel/NY
1/11/2007 8:26:41 PM (3015 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 5:04:09 AM (5236 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/12/2007 1:36:55 PM (2907 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - george Hubka/MI
1/12/2007 7:42:53 PM (2888 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/12/2007 9:34:03 PM (2858 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:37:42 AM (2905 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 11:49:43 AM (2846 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 1:30:02 PM (2821 views)
Re: Predatory Lending - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/15/2007 2:55:24 PM (2836 views)


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