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Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Sanrit - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Sanrit - William Duncan/SC
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avanzegroup.com? - Paige Bentley/TX
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Serena Stout/VA
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - george Hubka/MI
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Frank Laisch/FL
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Re: avanzegroup.com? - Ted Williamson/TX
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Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
4/8/2021 3:22:26 PM (2796 views)
Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Brandon ONeal/TN
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Ron Beavers/FL
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Tempie Elder/GA
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - William Duncan/SC
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Alix Ott/MI
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Angela Sharp/CA
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Re: Ground Abstractor Price Increases - Serena Stout/VA
5/10/2021 9:01:34 AM (2905 views)

Thank you from ABN Legal Solutions - William Duncan/SC
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PRO Act Bill - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
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Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
3/31/2021 2:17:49 PM (2541 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - William Duncan/SC
4/1/2021 10:25:47 AM (3384 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Patrick Parrish/AL
4/1/2021 5:20:24 PM (3140 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/2/2021 8:22:04 AM (3124 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/12/2021 9:59:21 PM (2903 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Jay Duncan/MO
4/20/2021 2:20:38 PM (2945 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - george Hubka/MI
4/20/2021 3:13:08 PM (2941 views)
Re: Visionet, non-payment - Rita Killary/NY
8/27/2021 6:22:23 PM (2540 views)

So, think I should risk it? - Alix Ott/MI
3/31/2021 2:12:10 PM (2385 views)
Re: So, think I should risk it? - Brandon ONeal/TN
3/31/2021 11:11:51 PM (2972 views)

Remote Online Notary Vendors - Jeanine Johnson/MN
3/31/2021 11:24:43 AM (2190 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Becky Schweitzer/OH
4/5/2021 9:48:14 AM (2671 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary Vendors - Robert Franco/OH
4/5/2021 12:19:01 PM (2560 views)
Re: Remote Online Notary info - Jeanine Johnson/MN
4/5/2021 1:27:06 PM (2890 views)

Abstract Software - Tony Costa/LA
3/29/2021 9:45:32 AM (1816 views)

SiteSolutionsService: ...really!?... - William Duncan/SC
3/26/2021 10:46:12 AM (1669 views)

There: FIXED! - William Duncan/SC
3/25/2021 9:33:06 AM (1736 views)

Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
3/23/2021 2:55:25 PM (2970 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Robb Grandon/MI
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
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Re: Abstractor Pro software - Todd Camp/NJ
4/1/2021 3:08:30 PM (3057 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
5/24/2021 11:00:10 AM (2879 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Patty Baber/FL
6/4/2021 6:04:26 PM (3517 views)
Re: Abstractor Pro software - Andrew Trenary, Sr/OH
6/20/2021 8:00:31 PM (2990 views)

...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/22/2021 4:01:06 PM (2331 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/22/2021 4:11:44 PM (2956 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Robert Franco/OH
3/23/2021 9:11:22 AM (2730 views)
Re: ...Really...? - William Duncan/SC
3/23/2021 9:32:31 AM (2784 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Smitty Strickland/SC
3/23/2021 3:27:39 PM (2775 views)
Re: ...Really...? - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:31:50 PM (2787 views)
Re: ...Really...? - Judy Maclauchlan/LA
3/25/2021 10:22:25 AM (2654 views)

"Title theft" myth persists - Alix Ott/MI
3/17/2021 6:53:36 AM (2464 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Becky Schweitzer/OH
3/22/2021 9:58:58 AM (3425 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Kurt deVries/FL
3/22/2021 1:32:56 PM (2866 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/22/2021 2:19:13 PM (2962 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 4:40:23 PM (2861 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/23/2021 6:14:28 PM (2695 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - george Hubka/MI
3/23/2021 10:35:59 PM (2799 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:20 PM (2755 views)
Re: "Title theft" myth persists - Victoria Moate/NJ
3/24/2021 12:26:22 PM (3076 views)
Again, if the general public starts searching their own properties, then there's no need for abstractors/searchers within the industry is what you are basically telling me.  

And, as an examiner, it's bad enough that there are "professional" searchers who miss deeds, easements, etc as is.  Heaven help us if the average Joe starts questioning professional services because they think they can DIY a 60 year property search.

Your job at stake, not mine   LOL  

The reality is that the "title theft" angle has to be an elaborate scheme set up by multiple parties in order to "steal" a deed.

And, as I mentioned before, if a homeowner received documentation stating they were being foreclosed on, why would they ignore it?

I was a witness to a case where a property was "sold" 4 times.  The first sale was legit to a point, with the Sellers being the actual sellers and took place in an attorney's office with me as the title witness closer only doing pick ups and marking up the binder.

The 3 subsequent "sales" were done within 5 days of the original closing.  Same "buyer" as the first closing.  Had a NJ DL for ID.  The subsequent "sellers" were ringers who looked very much like the real sellers, physically.

Apparently, a car dealership had been hacked and ID theft of all their clients.  Think about it, a dealership has the same info on a buyer, esp if they financed the car.  So name, ID, address, SS etc

The subsquent sales were conducted by attorneys.  The all accepted a "payoff" statement from the existing lender being paid off bc funds from the first transaction was wired to the bank.  However, that bank did not provide a ZERO BALANCE letter.  They accepted the old payoff statement only and did not question anything raised a red flag:

1. Why is the Seller paying off a mortgage that had been 6 months in arrears, just 2 days before closing?

2. Where did the Seller obtain funds, since they had not made a house payment in 6 months?

3. Where was proof and source of funds?

The list goes on and on.  The person whose Identity was stolen knew nothing about these transactions.  They were not against his property.  The theft ring used only his name and credit, but not his address.

So, he received notices that he was in foreclosure from 4 different banks on a property he had never owned.

Now, flip this entire idea back to a person who owns a property.  If you started receiving notices that your loan is behind, you would not question that if  A. You don't have a mortgage?  B. You have a mortgage but your payments are on time.

The premise of the "Title Theft" insurance is to make sure your deed is secure?  It's pretty unlikely that someone is going to just waltz in and make a copy of your deed to gain access to your info.  Your deed is signed by who you bought it from.  Your deed does not have your signature on it.

So, that means the thief would need to have a document with your signature on it.   Well, a mortgage would have the signature, sure.  But what if you don't have a mortgage?

Then you have to take the whole thing through the closing process.  So, the notary would have to be in on it, b/c they have to ID you, a bank/loan office would have to be in on it, since they take all your financials, the title agency would have to be in on it, b/c yes, we DO look at signatures to make sure they match documents, whoever is conducting the closing would have to be in on it, b/c they have to verify your source of funds, etc.

So in essence, it's not really that easy to create a bogus deed, obtain a new mortgage and close on it.  The standard risk protocols would question how the "new deed holder" came into title.

Title insurance manages the risk. 


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