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Hold the Pickles - Hold the Pot - David Bloys/TX
11/10/2006 7:12:16 PM (3047 views)
Re: Hold the Pickles - Hold the Pot - Scott Perry/PA
11/10/2006 8:42:37 PM (1752 views)

Pricing issues - Wendi See/SC
11/7/2006 1:12:24 PM (2407 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/7/2006 1:52:18 PM (1909 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Scott Perry/PA
11/7/2006 2:37:01 PM (1957 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2006 2:59:45 PM (2025 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/7/2006 3:09:01 PM (2060 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/7/2006 3:26:22 PM (1964 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:35:50 PM (1868 views)
Re: Pricing issues - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
11/7/2006 6:35:41 PM (1851 views)
Re: Pricing issues - David Bloys/TX
11/7/2006 7:23:54 PM (1926 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Wendi See/SC
11/7/2006 8:56:59 PM (1888 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Jan Forster/NC
11/7/2006 9:08:01 PM (1937 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Scott Perry/PA
11/7/2006 10:18:38 PM (1840 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2006 11:15:01 AM (1925 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Robert Franco/OH
11/8/2006 11:00:44 AM (1855 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/8/2006 6:55:45 AM (1861 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Dave Pell/GA
11/8/2006 8:35:29 AM (1842 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Wendi See/SC
11/8/2006 12:58:54 PM (1822 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/8/2006 1:14:40 PM (1850 views)
Re: Pricing issues - George Booth/OH
11/8/2006 1:29:11 PM (1891 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/8/2006 5:41:11 PM (1872 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/9/2006 4:55:51 AM (1793 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Helene /GA
11/9/2006 10:42:42 PM (1837 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/10/2006 7:55:31 AM (1793 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Ben Kohnen/WI
11/10/2006 9:23:58 AM (1853 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/10/2006 9:38:52 AM (1853 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2006 10:34:53 AM (1824 views)
Re: Pricing issues - George Booth/OH
11/10/2006 11:37:37 AM (1906 views)
Re: Pricing issues - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/10/2006 11:45:44 AM (1830 views)
Re: Pricing issues - latichia lee/DC
11/14/2006 9:19:26 PM (1784 views)
Re: Pricing issues - john parishy/NJ
12/8/2006 12:23:43 AM (1813 views)

ABSTRACTS USA - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
11/6/2006 9:52:45 PM (2188 views)
Re: ABSTRACTS USA - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/7/2006 3:10:00 PM (1825 views)

Coal Abstracts - Christine Sheeler/PA
11/6/2006 9:08:46 AM (2067 views)
Re: Coal Abstracts - Scott Perry/PA
11/6/2006 12:10:56 PM (1938 views)
Re: Coal Abstracts - Christine Sheeler/PA
12/26/2006 2:00:18 PM (1878 views)

Anyone have this problem? - Mike/KS
11/4/2006 6:29:38 PM (2280 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Scott Perry/PA
11/4/2006 6:52:40 PM (2113 views)
Interestingly enough, Scott - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:07:08 PM (2246 views)
Re: Interestingly enough, Scott - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2006 10:08:56 PM (2094 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
11/5/2006 9:27:57 AM (2180 views)
and that's why, Anthony, that many - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:08:33 PM (2081 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - David Jenkins/PA
11/5/2006 6:48:07 PM (2126 views)
Insightful post, David... - Mike/KS
11/5/2006 9:11:35 PM (2072 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Matthew Sharpe/OH
11/11/2006 7:55:19 AM (1959 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - HOPE DEZERN/SC
11/6/2006 8:00:39 AM (2058 views)
Re: Anyone have this problem? - Lisa Ramsey/TX
11/13/2006 4:37:27 PM (1987 views)




A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Mike/KS
11/4/2006 5:50:32 PM (2088 views)
Re: A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Carla Curry/KY
11/6/2006 6:36:19 PM (1961 views)
Re: A little love going out...Absolute Property Services - Sandra Morton/KS
11/7/2006 5:43:41 PM (1893 views)

Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 5:40:35 AM (2016 views)
Re: Surveys - Scott Perry/PA
11/4/2006 8:51:55 AM (2035 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 9:13:41 AM (2001 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/4/2006 11:00:31 AM (2026 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/4/2006 11:44:26 AM (2104 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/6/2006 11:59:48 PM (1941 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2006 9:27:32 AM (2001 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/7/2006 9:45:49 AM (1883 views)
Re: Surveys - Robert Franco/OH
11/7/2006 10:13:49 AM (1927 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 4:54:07 AM (1955 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 5:12:34 AM (1868 views)
Re: Surveys - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/8/2006 6:35:52 AM (1925 views)
Re: Surveys - Garland Burnett/NM
11/8/2006 7:12:49 AM (1930 views)

My Abstractor? - Kurt deVries/FL
11/2/2006 4:31:52 PM (2480 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2006 4:42:54 PM (2169 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Dorothy Payne/NY
11/2/2006 11:54:52 PM (2235 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Scott Perry/PA
11/3/2006 11:16:33 AM (2230 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 7:07:17 AM (2152 views)
No access.......hmmm - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 8:27:28 AM (2275 views)
Re: No access.......hmmm - Kurt deVries/FL
11/3/2006 10:03:36 AM (2130 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
11/3/2006 10:06:18 AM (2422 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Craig Honeker/AZ
11/3/2006 10:19:18 AM (2186 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Julie Jasiunas/WI
11/3/2006 10:23:50 AM (2164 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:27:22 AM (2168 views)
Just goes to show you... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/3/2006 10:55:30 AM (2174 views)
Re: Just goes to show you... - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:25:44 AM (2160 views)
Re: My Abstractor? - Robert Franco/OH
11/3/2006 11:23:07 AM (3731 views)

A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Laura Macias/FL
11/2/2006 10:59:46 AM (2019 views)
Re: A response to Forbes Mag. on behalf of FLORIDA - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 11:19:55 AM (1959 views)

Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 8:24:23 PM (2990 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/1/2006 10:59:32 PM (2121 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:34:05 AM (2125 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2006 3:11:05 AM (2157 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/2/2006 6:36:47 AM (2203 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:18:24 AM (2097 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:10:23 AM (2091 views)
Re: Less tha 5% of title insurance premium paid out in claims - George Booth/OH
11/2/2006 11:58:08 AM (2083 views)

Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:04:44 AM (2375 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 7:27:24 AM (2168 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Pete Kisan/OH
11/1/2006 7:56:32 AM (3475 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 8:56:15 AM (3595 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 10:32:08 AM (2222 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Danielle Nelson/WI
11/1/2006 5:53:45 PM (2208 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Patrick Scott/IL
11/1/2006 8:59:27 PM (2138 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2006 9:15:44 PM (2168 views)
ALTA's response to Forbes Mag - Jay Duncan/MO
11/2/2006 7:58:19 AM (3654 views)
Forbes Rocks - Jan Forster/NC
11/2/2006 8:31:49 AM (2286 views)
Re: Forbes Mag. says Title Ins. a Big Waste - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2006 10:00:02 AM (3432 views)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN - Angelica Schneider/IN
10/31/2006 12:40:16 PM (1712 views)

Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 11:52:33 AM (2501 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
10/31/2006 2:03:24 PM (1919 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
10/31/2006 4:28:14 PM (2024 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 12:46:30 PM (1908 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 2:29:05 PM (1935 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:33:16 PM (1838 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
10/31/2006 10:23:26 PM (1825 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 10:54:44 AM (1803 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:14:19 AM (1801 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:29:42 AM (1805 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 11:35:57 AM (1798 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 11:50:10 AM (1796 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 11:51:35 AM (1770 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2006 12:31:01 PM (1786 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 12:57:20 PM (1811 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2006 2:06:39 PM (1818 views)

Thanks Wendi.  I do think I take the side of the abstractor, but what is done is done.  Nothing at this point is going to help the abstractor in this instance, except for Contemporary to work its way out its current problems.  I suppose that it would be better for the abstractors if Contemporary were able to get an equity line to payoff their previous obligations.  However, that is beyond the abstractors' control... maybe contemporary is not in a strong enough financial position to do so, in which case it is beyond anyone's control.

I think the problem goes far beyond this particular situation.  It is an industry-wide problem.  In any business, clients or customers for some reason wind up not being able to pay their obligations.  In most business, losses, whether from customers not paying their bills or shoplifting, are a part of doing business and the potential costs are built into their fees.

What makes our business so difficult is that we operate on a "work-now, pay-later" system that has slowly gone from the standard NET30, to NET45, to NET60, and, the fees have been slowly decreasing, rather than keeping up with our rising expenses.  Just today I received a notice that our health insurance premiums are going up again this year, by another 12% to 14%.  Unfortunately, I cannot raise my prices.

This means that our profit margin does not allow us the flexibility to absorb losses of this magnitude.  In fact, we are often not in a position to wait longer than expected for payment.  I find this very disturbing.  Certainly, I do not think it is fair that the abstractors are forced to suffer these consequences, you are quite correct in your statement "Why are the abstractors the ones who suffer when we are the ones LEAST likely to be able to stay afloat."  However, I think this is a symptom of a greater problem than Contemporary's current situation. 

There are a lot of forces at work in this scenario... and unfortunately, we as abstractors have caused a lot of them.  I am not referring to anyone in particular, but the whole group of us.  We work in an industry where abstractors are completely unregulated.  There are no barriers to entering the abstracting business.  This has created a lot of competition.  In a down market it gets even worse because when abstractors get laid off from title companies, they go independent.  And everyone, in order to get new business (or keep existing business) is willing to accept lower fees.  This in turn puts more pressure on the rest of us to lower our fees. 

Now, we find that what may have been an "acceptable" fee when there was more work than we could handle, is not enough to pay our bills when things are slow.  Because fixed costs don't go down when the volume of work drops off, it gets tougher to make ends meet in these situation.  Unfortunately, that also means that when one client unexpectedly isn't paying their invoice the effect is felt even more so.

If our fees would have increased by the same percentage as our expenses over the past 5 years, I don't think that this particular problem would have had nearly such a dramatic effect on anyone.  Please don't misunderstand me, I still think this is a tragedy.  My heart really goes out to Loretta; I can certainly empathize. 

My only point here is that whatever the situation with Contemporary, or any other client  in the past that has not paid their abstractors in a timely fashion, that is a part of doing business (as lousy as that may be).  It is just sad that in our profession it has such a devastating effect.

(Sorry for the long post.)

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 12:30:50 PM (1778 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 3:36:11 PM (1777 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2006 3:49:17 PM (1754 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:55:33 PM (1858 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jim Girardi/NY
11/1/2006 3:58:59 PM (2032 views)
Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 4:43:43 PM (1911 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 5:31:02 PM (1890 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:01:12 PM (1772 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:24:23 PM (1722 views)
Re: Enough already... - Loretta Reed/MD
11/1/2006 6:08:12 PM (1836 views)
Re: Enough already... - Jay Duncan/MO
11/1/2006 6:17:50 PM (1726 views)
Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
11/1/2006 6:52:25 PM (1738 views)
Re: Enough already... - Angelica Schneider/IN
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Re: Enough already... - Wendi See/SC
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Re: Enough already... - Jan Forster/NC
11/1/2006 8:16:40 PM (1692 views)
Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Ted Lannon/MA
11/1/2006 9:05:16 PM (1842 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Angelica Schneider/IN
11/2/2006 12:28:35 AM (1707 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Jim Girardi/NY
11/3/2006 10:33:02 AM (1781 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2006 10:53:44 AM (1714 views)
Re: Re Jim's: Unbelievalbe Ted - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:37:03 PM (1728 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 6:58:25 PM (1666 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty Speaks to Vendors Day - Jay K/MD
11/2/2006 8:30:47 AM (1704 views)

Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Rich M/ME
10/30/2006 9:05:07 PM (2312 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
10/30/2006 9:57:03 PM (2246 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 7:39:40 AM (2282 views)
Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Ted Lannon/MA
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Re: Contemporary Realty - Involuntary Bankruptcy - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2006 9:38:13 AM (2132 views)

U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:51:31 PM (2058 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - george Hubka/MI
11/6/2006 7:21:03 PM (1930 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:41:38 PM (1993 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/1/2006 6:49:08 PM (2137 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Tamara Henderson/GA
11/4/2006 9:03:52 AM (2074 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Wendi See/SC
11/4/2006 10:23:11 AM (1987 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/6/2006 6:10:12 PM (1949 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
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Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
11/7/2006 7:28:24 AM (1949 views)
Re: U.S. LAND TITLE - Smitty Strickland/SC
11/7/2006 5:39:14 PM (1957 views)


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