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Absolute - Langdon Knight/MO
1/19/2007 12:32:38 PM (2377 views)
Re: Absolute - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/20/2007 8:06:04 AM (2684 views)
Re: Absolute - Langdon Knight/MO
1/21/2007 2:16:29 PM (2500 views)
Re: Absolute - Wayne Schutt II/NY
1/23/2007 11:56:42 AM (2655 views)
Absolute now Eclipse ????? - george Hubka/MI
1/28/2007 2:19:51 PM (2621 views)

Foreclosures jump 35% nationwide - Jay Duncan/MO
1/19/2007 9:03:30 AM (2970 views)

2007 NALTEA Board - Mary Mitchel/NY
1/18/2007 1:54:02 PM (2086 views)
Re: 2007 NALTEA Board - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
1/19/2007 4:53:25 PM (2465 views)

NALTEA--New Faces - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/18/2007 1:22:07 PM (2002 views)
Re: NALTEA--New Faces - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 3:48:08 PM (2422 views)

Where is this industry headed? - D/AL
1/17/2007 9:07:55 PM (2267 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:16:34 PM (2400 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 3:54:52 PM (2453 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/18/2007 10:57:07 PM (2469 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - Scott Perry/PA
1/18/2007 11:29:24 PM (2438 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
1/19/2007 10:04:03 AM (2344 views)
Re: Where is this industry headed? - john franz/NJ
1/18/2007 3:58:42 PM (2354 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Jeanine Johnson/FL
1/18/2007 5:36:37 PM (2350 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/21/2007 1:07:52 AM (2375 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/21/2007 6:07:22 AM (2358 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - David Bloys/TX
1/24/2007 8:28:29 PM (2387 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/25/2007 10:00:53 AM (2352 views)
Re: I Cannot believe it does what it says - George Booth/OH
1/26/2007 9:27:19 AM (2455 views)




ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 1:22:51 PM (3219 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/17/2007 9:11:18 PM (2198 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - Robert Franco/OH
1/18/2007 12:20:37 PM (2268 views)
Re: ID Theft Bill Targets County Websites - David Bloys/TX
1/19/2007 10:16:30 AM (2177 views)

Is E-Filing Secure? - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 8:54:43 PM (2835 views)

Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/16/2007 7:13:42 PM (2152 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 3:52:37 AM (2404 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 7:13:14 AM (2408 views)
Re: Full disclosure - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 7:48:17 AM (2343 views)
Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/17/2007 8:10:35 AM (2677 views)

Not a lawyer, from a purely many years real estate paralegal, former residential loan auditor for CT banks:

It is a very fine line, however, for attorney's personal representation to the purchaser/borrower or seller, the attorney is not required to disclose that fee under federal or state law to the other party or lender.  For example, the seller's attorney may be providing personal representation to the seller only, his legal advice and work product having nothing to do with the purchaser's "loan," therefore, Seller's attorney (P.O.C.) [disclosing that there is a fee, however, it is paid outside the closing transaction and that fee is nobody's business but the client's]. For example, the purchaser/borrower's attorney may NOT be the "settlement agent," "title insurance agent," or represent the lender, his legal advice and review of the documents is strictly for the client's benefit (P.O.C.).  In moldy pre-non-attorney refinance days, you would see an attorney's fee on the "settlement fee" line [fee for lender work being disclosed, borrower required to pay a fee which the lender often set] and on the attorney fee (attorney fee for additional representation such as reviewing/negotiating the purchaser & sale agreement) line of the HUD.

Kevin, correct me if I am wrong, but in a nutshell the attorney fee disclosure is for attorney services required by the lender, that benefit the lender, in connection with the mortgage loan, and paid for by the borrower.  What/how disclosed is a fine line. Over many years I've seen it crossed by lenders, attorneys, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, purchasers/sellers (such as cash back deals after the closing outside the attorneys' presence) off the settlement statement - usually without financial harm to anyone; i.e., no one but the auditor cares. Good news is on a regular basis a percentage of randomly chosen residential loan HUD-1s ARE reviewed by independent (lender and secondary market purchaser), state and federal auditors - bad things are caught eventually ... it's a matter of time, luck, and auditor knowledge, which is why over the years the HUD-1 changed and the HUD-1A appeared.

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Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 8:33:14 AM (2495 views)
Re: Attorney fees on HUD-1 or HUD-1A - Chris Konzel/NY
1/17/2007 10:42:55 PM (2444 views)

International company? - Patricia Shaw/MD
1/16/2007 2:43:57 PM (2125 views)
Re: International company? - Craig Honeker/AZ
1/16/2007 3:32:58 PM (4506 views)
Re: International company? - Dorothy Payne/NY
1/16/2007 9:51:35 PM (2384 views)

Datikala Abstract Co/Darryl Rush - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:25:41 PM (1778 views)

Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 5:15:45 AM (2127 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 9:41:55 AM (2388 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 10:34:55 AM (2408 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - John Povejsil/MN
1/15/2007 10:53:05 AM (2391 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/15/2007 9:40:08 PM (4587 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/15/2007 11:09:06 PM (2380 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Jan Forster/NC
1/15/2007 11:24:54 PM (4589 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Bloys/TX
1/16/2007 12:38:45 AM (4593 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2007 6:43:17 AM (2370 views)
Re: Recorder Campaign Advice Needed - David Jenkins/PA
1/16/2007 1:42:16 PM (2392 views)

The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/14/2007 10:30:25 PM (2140 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 12:47:27 AM (4687 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM (2418 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Jay Duncan/MO
1/16/2007 9:48:09 AM (2542 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/16/2007 10:28:22 AM (2420 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2007 6:30:10 AM (2403 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2007 9:01:48 PM (2396 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2007 10:58:39 PM (2295 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Wanda Steudel/OH
1/17/2007 10:41:52 AM (2425 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Nikky/FL
1/17/2007 5:40:45 PM (2300 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
1/17/2007 9:08:26 PM (2365 views)
Re: The NALTEA Conference - Kurt deVries/FL
1/18/2007 12:45:02 PM (2285 views)

ACCU-FAX AUTHENTIC FILE RETRIEVAL SERVICE - Austin Whitaker/NY
1/14/2007 10:21:01 PM (1824 views)

Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/13/2007 6:15:56 PM (3171 views)
Re: Online invoices - Anne Gilbert/VT
1/15/2007 1:16:30 PM (2326 views)
Re: Online invoices - Alan Voorheis/WA
1/17/2007 9:19:14 AM (2234 views)

Oneida County Pulls Plug on Internet Records - David Bloys/TX
1/13/2007 1:25:59 PM (2839 views)


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