Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



Pro Bono Notary service - Jim Lissemore/NJ
2/24/2007 5:21:01 PM (2395 views)
Re: Pro Bono Notary service - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2007 8:58:42 PM (2872 views)
Re: Pro Bono Notary service - Loretta Reed/MD
2/27/2007 10:56:09 AM (2981 views)

Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - David Bloys/TX
2/24/2007 9:03:35 AM (3256 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Jan Forster/NC
2/24/2007 9:40:14 AM (3247 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - David Bloys/TX
2/24/2007 9:51:31 AM (3156 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - David Bloys/TX
2/24/2007 10:12:36 AM (5130 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Lisa Ramsey/TX
2/25/2007 12:30:58 PM (3115 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - David Bloys/TX
2/25/2007 2:27:50 PM (3153 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/26/2007 12:29:25 PM (3401 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/27/2007 12:14:41 AM (3042 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - David Bloys/TX
2/27/2007 1:00:00 AM (5070 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Robert Franco/OH
2/27/2007 3:51:05 PM (3157 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/27/2007 6:22:57 PM (2959 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2007 7:17:09 PM (3124 views)
Somebody call a waaaaambulance. - Jan Forster/NC
2/27/2007 7:40:55 PM (3059 views)
Re: Somebody call a waaaaambulance. - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2007 9:56:21 PM (3027 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/27/2007 10:35:41 PM (2991 views)
Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Robert Franco/OH
2/28/2007 11:20:48 AM (3041 views)

To answer your questions, in my lay opinion:

(1) In your review of the AG opinion does it specifically state records on the Internet or records in general  or both?  Section 552.147 restricts access to the SSNs in the clerk's records that are subject to the Public Information Act.  Presumably that would mean both on-line and in the courthouse.  The AG opinion specifically addresses the issue of on-line records by saying that SSNs of living persons must be redacted before making the information available on the Internet.  However, more generally, the opinion states that the PIA limits the voluntary disclosure of information
to the public.

(2)  In terms of protecting the public - what's your opinion re:  availability of documents if I travel to the courthouse?  Information at the courthouse level is also protected and there does need to be some control under the current law as interpreted by the attorney general.  After reading his opinion, I agree with his conclusions.  He went through all of the proper steps in analyzing the law and his application is sound.

However, I think indirectly he mentions that the purpose of the legislation is to prevent the "uncontrolled release of SSNs to a member of the public."  I believe that by restricting access to the county level, there IS some control.  Those who visit the courthouse in person are seen by the clerks, as well as other responsible title professionals, who are more apt to notice someone searching for SSNs, or otherwise gathering information in an unethical manner.  There is some accountability that is inherent in appearing in person.

The concern of the clerk's is certainly warranted.  I think that there would be potential for them to be held responsible, under this legislation, if someone were to appear in person and leave the office with SSNs gathered from the public records.  But, I think that the steps they have taken are over-kill. If I were a county clerk, I would begin by having all of those who require access to the public records sign-in.  I would also look into the possibility of having them sign a agreement that they would not gather any SSNs, or otherwise do anything that would subject the office to penalties under Section 552.147, and an indemnity if they do.  Furthermore, I would not allow them to make any copies, rather, the clerks should make any necessary copies taking careful steps to redact any SSNs before the copies are made. 

This is not a perfect solution, but it does help provide some protection for the clerks and nobody could argue that they didn't take reasonable precautions against the "uncontrolled release of SSNs."  I'm not sure if there is any element of "intent," or some specific "standard of care," required in the legislation, but perhaps that would be the best way to resolve the problems.  No law, other than one that prevents all access, can completely prevent the "unintentional" disclosure of an SSN; even if every document is reviewed, someone is going to miss one sooner or later.  Taking reasonable precautions at the courthouse would enable business to continue as normal, while the mass publication on the Internet would certainly be reckless. 

Finally, I would just like to mention that I am awful sorry to hear about the problems this has created in some of the Texas counties.  I still think that Texas is moving in the right direction, but obviously, the very literal reading of the opinion has been taken to extremes.  I hope that the legislators can address the problem without making Section 552.147 meaningless for the millions of citizens it is designed to protect.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: Texas AG Says County Websites Could Land Officials In Jail - Kelli Gorman/TX
2/28/2007 9:37:48 PM (3089 views)

Absolute and Contemporary - Teresa Melvin/VA
2/23/2007 11:46:30 PM (2425 views)
Re: Absolute and Contemporary - Philip Cotugno/MA
2/24/2007 10:47:53 AM (2947 views)
Re: Absolute and Contemporary - Leigh Rampey/SC
2/26/2007 4:21:53 AM (2978 views)
Re: Absolute and Contemporary - Teresa Melvin/VA
2/26/2007 8:37:40 AM (3214 views)
Re: Absolute and Contemporary - Wayne Schutt II/NY
3/2/2007 7:58:09 AM (3068 views)

Mortgage Lenders and AFX - Gena Taylor/VA
2/23/2007 6:04:17 PM (2405 views)
Re: ..... AFX - Dave Pell/GA
2/23/2007 7:47:01 PM (3148 views)
Re: ..... AFX - Russ Frye/GA
2/26/2007 10:00:50 PM (2872 views)
Re: Mortgage Lenders and AFX - Wendi See/SC
2/25/2007 12:19:43 PM (3030 views)
Re: Mortgage Lenders and AFX - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/26/2007 7:37:45 AM (3027 views)
Re: Mortgage Lenders and AFX - Kristi Lee/NE
2/26/2007 9:34:34 AM (2938 views)

Anyone familar with Title Search USA - Dave Ellis/WI
2/23/2007 12:04:28 PM (2349 views)
Re: Anyone familar with Title Search USA - Stephen Williams/MO
2/23/2007 2:02:42 PM (3166 views)
Re: Anyone familar with Title Search USA - Julie Jasiunas/WI
2/23/2007 6:28:18 PM (3138 views)
Re: Anyone familar with Title Search USA - Philip Cotugno/MA
2/24/2007 10:44:09 AM (3010 views)
Re: Anyone familar with Title Search USA - Sherry Sapier/FL
2/26/2007 12:18:29 PM (2913 views)
Re: Anyone familar with Title Search USA - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2007 8:55:25 PM (2947 views)


Real Title Services


Frux - Gena Taylor/VA
2/22/2007 6:51:43 PM (2425 views)
Re: Frux - Jay Duncan/MO
2/22/2007 8:04:41 PM (3030 views)
Re: Frux - Gena Taylor/VA
2/23/2007 5:58:35 PM (2955 views)
Re: Frux - Sophia Varga/NY
2/26/2007 3:37:04 PM (2883 views)

Great Article! - Ethics/OH
2/21/2007 3:14:43 PM (3071 views)

Update - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/21/2007 7:38:44 AM (1887 views)

Does Existing Ohio Law Prohibit AfBAs in Ohio? - Henry Hessler/OH
2/20/2007 5:04:41 PM (2762 views)
Re: Does Existing Ohio Law Prohibit AfBAs in Ohio? - Patrick Scott/IL
2/21/2007 9:44:42 AM (2976 views)
Re: Does Existing Ohio Law Prohibit AfBAs in Ohio? - John Povejsil/MN
2/26/2007 10:18:22 AM (2842 views)

Title Standards - Robert Franco/OH
2/20/2007 11:33:57 AM (1920 views)

Vanguard Documents? - C Y/NY
2/20/2007 8:14:08 AM (1846 views)

Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Nathan Miller/KY
2/19/2007 6:26:09 PM (2272 views)
Re: Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Dorothy Payne/NY
2/19/2007 7:46:31 PM (3018 views)
Re: Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Nathan Miller/KY
2/19/2007 7:56:34 PM (2988 views)
Re: Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Dorothy Payne/NY
2/20/2007 4:58:27 PM (2918 views)
Re: Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/22/2007 2:52:10 PM (2910 views)
Re: Inzura- payment issues anyone? - Dorothy Payne/NY
3/7/2007 9:57:49 PM (2670 views)

Tri-County Title - who are they? - Nathan Miller/KY
2/19/2007 5:50:47 PM (1857 views)

Are you losing out on new clients? - Robert Franco/OH
2/19/2007 3:41:02 PM (2470 views)
Re: Are you losing out on new clients? - Robert Franco/OH
2/21/2007 2:39:11 PM (2884 views)

Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Scott Perry/PA
2/19/2007 12:25:36 PM (3576 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Anne Gilbert/VT
2/24/2007 7:58:26 AM (3249 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2007 11:52:13 AM (3121 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Anne Gilbert/VT
2/24/2007 5:05:45 PM (3186 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Scott Perry/PA
2/24/2007 5:40:37 PM (3113 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2007 6:22:31 PM (3122 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Scott Perry/PA
2/25/2007 4:52:08 PM (3174 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Robert Franco/OH
2/24/2007 6:14:01 PM (3120 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2007 7:11:34 AM (3067 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2007 8:50:59 PM (3124 views)
Re: Lenders Watching Chevy Chase Lawsuit - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2007 9:07:19 AM (3199 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8961 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

U.S. Housing Market Hits 30-Year Low in Home Sales: Causes and Consequences
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/08
0 comments

Understanding Mineral Rights and the Importance of Trained Mineral Researchers
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/05
0 comments

FHFA Title Acceptance Pilot: What to know
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/09/02
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

Commercial and Multifamily Mortgage Delinquency Rates Increased in Second-Quarter 2025
“The delinquency rate for commercial mortgages increased in the second quarter of 2025 across most major capital s...
MISMO Publishes Updated Charge and Fee Naming Guide for Industry Use
“The Naming Guide empowers lenders to deliver a more transparent, efficient, and compliant mortgage experience for...
Holland & Knight Files Amicus Brief on Behalf of American Land Title Association Contesting AML Regulations for Residential Real Estate Transactions
ALTA, the national voice of the title insurance and settlement services industry, has approximately 5,700 company member...
Mortgage Application Payments Increased in Latest MBA Weekly Survey
“Mortgage rates declined for the second consecutive week as Treasury yields moved lower on data indicating that th...
NAHB Calls on Congress to Protect Energy Choice
The National Association of Home Builders today called on Congress to help ease the housing affordability crisis by supp...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.