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American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/15/2007 10:14:25 PM (2981 views)
Re: American Abstract - Anne Gilbert/VT
7/16/2007 7:10:30 AM (3823 views)
Re: American Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
7/16/2007 9:57:56 AM (3944 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/16/2007 10:24:42 AM (3890 views)
Re: American Abstract - Shannon Budziak/VT
7/16/2007 7:19:06 PM (3867 views)
Re: American Abstract - Daniel DeBrucker/NY
7/17/2007 11:42:50 AM (3897 views)
Re: American Abstract - Loretta Reed/MD
7/17/2007 12:58:35 PM (3889 views)
Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:43:29 PM (3878 views)
Re: American Abstract - Gena Taylor/VA
7/23/2007 10:36:27 AM (3709 views)
Re: American Abstract - Phil McLean/CO
7/23/2007 12:42:31 PM (3706 views)

Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 10:45:00 PM (3808 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/14/2007 11:07:41 AM (3583 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/14/2007 4:07:34 PM (3562 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Jay Duncan/MO
7/14/2007 4:50:54 PM (3508 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - Stephen Williams/MO
7/19/2007 9:34:07 PM (3465 views)
Re: Why a St. Louis City and a St. Louis County Courthouse - David Robertson/VA
7/23/2007 7:14:59 PM (3507 views)
There are some cities which, by state law, are independent cities. They are not part of any county. This seems to be a difficult concept for prople in states which don't have independent cities.

As others have said, Baltimore and St. Louis are prominent examples of independent cities. As far as I know, they are the only independent cities in Maryland and Missouri respectively.

What really blows the minds of outlanders is Virginia's system of independent cities. In Virginia, there are three types of local govenrment entities. There are counties. There are towns, which are part of the counties within which they are physically located, just like towns and cities in other states. No problem so far. Then there are independent cities, which ARE NOT PART OF ANY COUNTY. This is a hard concept for out-of-staters to grasp. It leads to conversations like this:

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is the property in?

ME: It's in the City of Lynchburg.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: What county is Lynchburg in?

ME: It's not in any county!!!!!

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: But it's gotta be in a county.

ME: No, it's an independent city. It's not a part of any county.

DUDE FROM CALIFORNIA: Huh? (Thinking: Jeez, I'm talking some ignorant hillbilly!)

There are independent cities in Virginia with populations as small a 5 or 6 thousand people. (And there are towns with much larger populations.)

To further complicate things, some smaller cities share clerks' (recorders') offices with adjacent counties. So deeds for the City of Bedford and Bedford County are in the same office, and indexed together, as are the City of Covington and Alleghany County. But their assessors' offices and all other local offices are separate. Taxes, zoning, subdivision, all separate. And recorded douments must clearly state whether the property is in the city or the county so that local recording taxes can be distributed correctly..

There are counties and cities with similar names. This isn't too bad with Roanoke County and Roanoke City, for example, which are adjacent. But Richmond County is 60 or 70 miles from Richmond City, and Franklin County is 150 miles from Franklin City. On top of that, Franklin City does not have its own clerk's office, but shares Southampton County's.

It can be pretty hard to get somebody in Boise or Bangalore to understand this stuff. There are even more ramifications that I will not get into now. This sort of thing is yet another reason why there is no substitute for people with local knowledge.


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Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 5:36:26 PM (2764 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/13/2007 6:07:56 PM (3819 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:20:40 PM (3740 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:25:42 PM (3709 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/13/2007 10:42:00 PM (3608 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - george Hubka/MI
7/16/2007 10:39:31 AM (3777 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:22:41 AM (3716 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:03:10 PM (3699 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:29:56 PM (3667 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 6:34:03 PM (3706 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 6:35:07 PM (3736 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/13/2007 7:05:38 PM (3765 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 8:52:07 PM (3652 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/22/2007 4:33:52 PM (3575 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 5:08:59 PM (3541 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/23/2007 5:21:37 PM (3448 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 7:14:37 PM (3513 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Jay Duncan/MO
7/13/2007 9:45:08 PM (3637 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 10:59:30 PM (3487 views)
Re: Occupational Tax - Carla Curry/KY
7/13/2007 7:19:15 PM (3527 views)

The Latest Defalcation - Joshua Lukins/IA
7/13/2007 1:10:56 PM (4786 views)
Re: The Latest Defalcation - Scott Perry/PA
7/13/2007 2:30:06 PM (4010 views)
Re: The Latest Defalcation - george Hubka/MI
7/16/2007 10:43:51 AM (3685 views)

OT... someone might know... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/12/2007 8:06:59 PM (2505 views)
Re: OT... someone might know... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2007 8:22:49 PM (5660 views)




Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/12/2007 3:56:36 PM (2774 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 4:51:24 PM (4024 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - George Booth/OH
7/12/2007 5:12:23 PM (3965 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 6:22:56 PM (3820 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:22:49 PM (3816 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 6:23:46 PM (3910 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:28:37 PM (3731 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 8:28:26 PM (3882 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/12/2007 6:49:26 PM (3836 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 7:02:48 PM (3763 views)
Re: Freddie Mac to Reduce Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 7:51:32 PM (3827 views)
CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/16/2007 9:03:33 AM (4012 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 11:18:54 AM (3803 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 1:14:49 PM (3888 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/16/2007 2:09:22 PM (3872 views)
Re: CT Abstractor Foreclosure Search Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/16/2007 3:24:39 PM (3843 views)

National Title Insurance Carrier - Dexter Jung/TX
7/12/2007 9:23:27 AM (2172 views)

Sovereign Title Agency - Jennifer Knott/PA
7/12/2007 9:07:49 AM (2875 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 3:03:02 PM (3878 views)
Re: Sovereign Title Agency - Christine Sheeler/PA
7/12/2007 11:36:57 PM (3892 views)

Another request for reduction in fees - Jay Duncan/MO
7/12/2007 6:00:14 AM (2865 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:45:28 AM (3824 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 7:05:45 AM (3846 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Wendi See/SC
7/12/2007 1:21:57 PM (3791 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 2:11:08 PM (3792 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Ray Glowniak/CA
7/16/2007 1:40:28 PM (3790 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/18/2007 6:41:29 PM (3579 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 6:55:43 PM (3650 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Robert Franco/OH
7/18/2007 7:56:59 PM (3659 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/18/2007 8:21:05 PM (3629 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - george Hubka/MI
7/19/2007 12:54:04 AM (3632 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 4:42:40 PM (3674 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Loretta Reed/MD
7/19/2007 7:48:46 PM (3556 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/19/2007 7:52:07 PM (3504 views)
Re: Another request for reduction in fees - Natalie Collier/NY
7/29/2007 10:21:10 PM (3742 views)

The Guy In the Ad on SOT's Home Page... - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 8:54:24 PM (2282 views)

More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/11/2007 11:43:35 AM (2729 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 6:43:38 PM (3718 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 10:24:00 PM (3711 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:46:22 AM (3609 views)
Re: More Etiquette suggestions - Deborah Manion/VA
7/12/2007 8:58:45 AM (3697 views)

LandSafe - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/11/2007 8:28:11 AM (3126 views)
Re: LandSafe - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:57:09 PM (3787 views)

PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 7:27:15 AM (2804 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Loretta Reed/MD
7/11/2007 9:06:01 AM (3928 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 9:26:38 AM (3904 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kurt deVries/FL
7/11/2007 11:45:53 AM (3798 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 12:21:13 PM (3740 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:53:59 PM (3731 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 4:29:18 PM (3711 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - David Jenkins/PA
7/12/2007 3:02:42 PM (5496 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/12/2007 3:36:53 PM (3741 views)
Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 12:02:34 PM (3916 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Robert Franco/OH
7/11/2007 2:41:14 PM (3740 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/11/2007 5:03:21 PM (3641 views)
Re: Back to the question... - Lisa Ramsey/TX
7/16/2007 6:25:38 PM (3690 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Wendi See/SC
7/11/2007 12:58:17 PM (3780 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - PP/AL
7/11/2007 2:16:17 PM (3839 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/11/2007 3:56:18 PM (3719 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/12/2007 12:15:45 AM (3759 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Scott Perry/PA
7/12/2007 6:42:49 AM (3707 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - george Hubka/MI
7/12/2007 7:19:12 AM (3734 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Dianne Barnidge/MS
7/12/2007 8:39:05 AM (3750 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Leroy & Sue Lewis/GA
7/12/2007 8:52:39 AM (3639 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - Russ Frye/GA
7/12/2007 8:13:03 PM (3776 views)
Re: PHILLYSUB SEARCHES - April Redmon/SC
7/16/2007 10:36:31 AM (3777 views)

E-mail / Posting Etiquette - Jay Duncan/MO
7/10/2007 8:31:19 PM (3436 views)

Political Junk is back up! - George Booth/OH
7/10/2007 8:29:22 PM (3728 views)
Re: Political Junk is back up! - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/11/2007 5:40:22 AM (3685 views)


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