Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



Genuine Title - Jay Duncan/MO
8/15/2007 4:47:25 PM (2753 views)
Re: Genuine Title - Loretta Reed/MD
8/15/2007 4:56:03 PM (3634 views)
Re: Genuine Title - TONY BROWN/VA
8/16/2007 3:11:18 PM (3503 views)
Re: Genuine Title - Deborah Manion/VA
8/16/2007 3:27:02 PM (3506 views)
Re: Genuine Title - Loretta Reed/MD
8/16/2007 4:31:04 PM (3497 views)

US Title New Jersey - Joanna Sturza/MI
8/15/2007 1:02:26 AM (2529 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/15/2007 3:14:21 AM (3515 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - Kurt deVries/FL
8/15/2007 10:40:30 AM (3350 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/15/2007 11:18:25 AM (3300 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - Robert Franco/OH
8/15/2007 1:33:38 PM (3335 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/15/2007 2:25:38 PM (3301 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - J Nisonger/CA
8/15/2007 8:37:46 PM (3346 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - Scott Perry/PA
8/15/2007 8:49:33 PM (3246 views)
Re: US Title New Jersey - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/15/2007 10:44:29 PM (3268 views)

AllDocs - Barbara Bennett/IN
8/13/2007 3:20:40 PM (2633 views)
Re: AllDocs - ks/IN
8/13/2007 5:10:31 PM (3557 views)
Re: AllDocs - Barbara Bennett/IN
8/13/2007 7:49:31 PM (3479 views)
Re: AllDocs - Alix Ott/MI
8/20/2007 9:16:03 AM (3702 views)
Re: AllDocs - Glenda Hodge/TN
4/8/2008 12:55:47 AM (3298 views)

Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/9/2007 8:24:01 PM (3018 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - george Hubka/MI
8/9/2007 10:27:24 PM (3423 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Angelica Schneider/IN
8/10/2007 9:53:34 AM (3386 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/10/2007 4:00:43 PM (3253 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Angelica Schneider/IN
8/10/2007 8:58:36 PM (3430 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/10/2007 9:56:13 PM (3377 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Dan Zook/NY
8/10/2007 11:07:08 AM (3539 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/10/2007 3:47:38 PM (3490 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - J Nisonger/CA
8/11/2007 7:53:26 PM (3271 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/11/2007 8:38:34 PM (3329 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Jodi Earls/MI
8/13/2007 10:49:49 AM (3243 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - J Nisonger/CA
8/13/2007 1:48:54 PM (3269 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/13/2007 5:27:14 PM (3253 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Tempie Elder/TX
8/13/2007 11:48:40 AM (3225 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/13/2007 5:25:20 PM (3279 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Loretta Reed/MD
8/13/2007 5:27:26 PM (3302 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - J Nisonger/CA
8/14/2007 4:06:17 PM (3278 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Patrick Scott/IL
8/14/2007 4:26:32 PM (3356 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - J Nisonger/CA
8/14/2007 4:37:03 PM (3158 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/14/2007 5:12:34 PM (3177 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Dan Zook/NY
8/15/2007 8:26:40 AM (3219 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - J Nisonger/CA
8/15/2007 8:41:32 PM (3193 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/15/2007 8:46:17 PM (3142 views)
Re: Time To Grow Up - Scott Perry/PA
8/14/2007 5:17:58 PM (3126 views)

G-DOCS - Debbie Allen/KS
8/8/2007 11:13:05 AM (2904 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 4:49:37 PM (3420 views)
Re: G-DOCS - george Hubka/MI
8/8/2007 7:43:31 PM (3482 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Philip Cotugno/MA
8/8/2007 5:30:24 PM (3401 views)
Re: G-DOCS - George Booth/OH
8/9/2007 8:59:48 AM (3377 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Sidney Phillips/MO
8/9/2007 11:35:43 AM (3348 views)
Re: G-DOCS - George Booth/OH
8/9/2007 2:02:40 PM (3361 views)
Re: G-DOCS - george Hubka/MI
8/9/2007 10:35:30 PM (3343 views)
Re: G-DOCS - George Booth/OH
8/10/2007 8:26:31 AM (3494 views)
Re: G-DOCS - J Nisonger/CA
8/11/2007 8:27:25 PM (3359 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Alix Ott/MI
8/13/2007 9:01:34 AM (3209 views)
Re: G-DOCS - John Nordstrom/MO
8/13/2007 11:18:39 AM (3129 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Becky Kale/IL
8/21/2007 10:11:39 AM (3188 views)
Re: G-DOCS - Alix Ott/MI
8/23/2007 6:52:04 PM (3113 views)




Marketing! - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:42:05 PM (2738 views)
Re: Marketing! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/7/2007 10:50:47 PM (3448 views)
Re: Marketing! - Dan Zook/NY
8/8/2007 8:18:46 AM (3454 views)
Re: Marketing! - J Nisonger/CA
8/8/2007 5:15:47 PM (3292 views)
Re: Marketing! - Dan Zook/NY
8/9/2007 2:36:37 PM (3100 views)
Re: Marketing! - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 4:54:02 PM (3371 views)
Re: Marketing! - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/9/2007 6:09:57 PM (3213 views)
Re: Marketing! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/10/2007 2:36:53 PM (3150 views)
Re: Marketing! - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/13/2007 6:21:20 PM (3167 views)
Re: Marketing! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/10/2007 10:27:00 AM (3102 views)

Posting Etiquette... - Robert Franco/OH
8/7/2007 2:39:19 PM (2587 views)
Re: Posting Etiquette... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/7/2007 3:14:44 PM (3220 views)
Re: Posting Etiquette... - Robert Franco/OH
8/7/2007 3:35:46 PM (3243 views)

Paul Maisano - follow up - Jill Kissell/IA
8/7/2007 12:12:49 PM (2474 views)

Wake up call!!!!! - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH
8/6/2007 5:24:36 PM (2934 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/6/2007 5:38:40 PM (3579 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/6/2007 6:36:06 PM (3589 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Jill Kissell/IA
8/6/2007 8:55:52 PM (3428 views)

Well said.  All of it.  Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that NOW may be the time to turn the tables on these national companies.  For the past several years the high demand for abstracting services has artificially inflated our profession with inexperienced, unqualified, untrained individuals who call themselves "researchers" and "abstractors" and who, in order to break into the business, have undercut the customary fees and driven prices for our services ever downward.  The national companies have fed on this competitive market and begun demanding other types of concessions as well - faster turn times - longer waits to be paid, etc. 

Then suddenly several things happen to the market which drastically reduces the amount of work that we see (searches go to India to be done online, interest rates go up, housing starts go down, mortgage companies crash and burn, etc.)  and suddenly everyone is scrounging for work.  Those who did not see it coming suddenly begin dropping below the radar.  Abstractors phone and fax numbers get disconnected, title companies get investigated and closed, mortgage companies get their credit cut off and have to file for bankruptcy.  And there's an old saying that applies here -- "s)!t  runs downhill."  We all feel the effects in one way or another. ...But I digress ...

In my state (Iowa) I am told more than one "independent" abstracting/title company (actually, the description was, ver batim "bottom dwellers") has closed its doors in the wake of the recent down cycle.  I am curious - where will their existing cllients go?  My work load actually picked up in the last couple of weeks, and I can't help but believe that it is partially because there aren't as many abstractors out there to choose from. 

So, my thought is ... and again, correct me if you think I am wrong ... if we get back to the point that only the serious abstractors are out there servicing the needs of the nation, doesn't that put us in the position of power?  If the national companies have to call one of us to do their work and we ALL tell them we won't RUSH to get a less than acceptable product to them, and we won't WAIT 60 days for payment, and we won't REDUCE our fees to the point that we can't buy groceries with our paycheck, then what choice will they have? 

I have refused (even in recent days when I was threatening to lay off my entire staff because the work load was so slow) to work for any company that had a payment policy I was not comfortable with.  I have refused to work for any company that tells me it outsources any of its work to places outside the United States.  I have discontinued working for companies that owed me money for longer than was acceptable.  And I am still here.  Sometimes the pickins are slim, but I am still here.

I have seen all kinds of cycles in this business in my short 10 year career - the mortgage companies cycle through brokers who cycle through the national title companies who cycle through abstractors.  Once a national title company fired me because I could not be on the extreme east side of the state and the extreme west side of the state on the same day.  They then went through multiple abstracting companies in the next two years, and, when their major Iowa client got mad and fired them because they could not meet expected turn times, guess who they came back to?  The point of all of this is that I believe we are in a cycle right now that may reduce the number of abstractors who are out there cutting each other's throats, and, if those of us who are left have half a brain, we will band together and take control of our profession once again.  

 

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Jean Lurtsema/AK
8/6/2007 10:31:40 PM (3510 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/6/2007 11:16:17 PM (3608 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Jill Kissell/IA
8/7/2007 9:42:00 AM (3415 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/7/2007 9:56:08 AM (3338 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/7/2007 10:02:38 AM (3403 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Douglas Gallant/OH
8/7/2007 7:26:04 PM (3656 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Andre Thomas/AZ
8/8/2007 3:39:47 PM (3380 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/8/2007 9:42:08 PM (3517 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/9/2007 11:27:35 AM (3491 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Qiana Helms/GA
8/9/2007 3:17:12 PM (3291 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/9/2007 1:35:50 AM (3307 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/9/2007 11:31:06 AM (3290 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/9/2007 5:44:30 PM (3410 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - Gwen  Drisdel/MO
8/13/2007 6:15:01 PM (3267 views)
Re: Wake up call!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
8/14/2007 4:51:10 PM (3233 views)

Strategic Title - Barbara Bennett/IN
8/6/2007 4:34:19 PM (2081 views)

Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/6/2007 2:29:54 PM (3632 views)
Re: Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - Deborah Manion/VA
8/6/2007 2:57:32 PM (3252 views)
Re: Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - Robert Franco/OH
8/6/2007 3:08:41 PM (5151 views)
Re: Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - Deborah Manion/VA
8/7/2007 9:48:25 PM (3230 views)
Re: Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 11:55:25 PM (3089 views)
Re: Interesting Article Places Some Blame on Homebuilders - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/8/2007 11:29:27 AM (3151 views)

Paul Maisano - Jill Kissell/IA
8/6/2007 8:17:39 AM (3107 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Joseph Killian/MI
8/6/2007 9:20:56 AM (3652 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - george Hubka/MI
8/6/2007 4:10:05 PM (3434 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Jay Duncan/MO
8/6/2007 4:28:23 PM (3597 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Robert Franco/OH
8/6/2007 6:25:23 PM (3450 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Barbara Bennett/IN
8/6/2007 6:38:28 PM (3516 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Scott Perry/PA
8/6/2007 7:38:59 PM (3505 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Paul Maisano/MI
8/7/2007 1:11:03 PM (3594 views)
Re: Paul Maisano - Jill Kissell/IA
8/6/2007 8:11:55 PM (3638 views)

Political Junk - Scott Perry/PA
8/4/2007 2:12:27 PM (3314 views)
Re: Political Junk - George Booth/OH
8/5/2007 10:09:19 AM (3336 views)
Re: Political Junk - Scott Perry/PA
8/5/2007 2:08:21 PM (3300 views)

Cfacts payment problems - April G./CA
8/3/2007 3:20:29 PM (2927 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - Robert Franco/OH
8/3/2007 3:24:06 PM (3625 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - Robert Franco/OH
8/10/2007 10:43:26 AM (3493 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/5/2007 8:21:24 PM (3496 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - April/CA
8/7/2007 2:49:04 PM (3618 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - Mary Louise Mamary/PA
8/6/2007 11:11:09 AM (3540 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/6/2007 4:14:37 PM (3552 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - jacquie/ct/CT
8/8/2007 12:21:10 AM (3447 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
8/8/2007 5:23:36 PM (3375 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 6:23:45 PM (3406 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/8/2007 6:54:32 PM (3432 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/8/2007 7:54:40 PM (3555 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/8/2007 9:11:08 PM (3420 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
8/8/2007 10:03:44 PM (3403 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/9/2007 10:14:03 AM (3477 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
8/11/2007 7:44:28 PM (3428 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/12/2007 1:06:12 PM (3347 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/9/2007 10:51:13 PM (3485 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/10/2007 9:10:30 AM (3450 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/10/2007 10:58:47 PM (3296 views)

Texas AG Warns Homeowners - David Bloys/TX
8/3/2007 12:56:49 PM (3003 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8961 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

What Is Title Insurance & Benefits
Michael Stelzer's Blog
2026/03/14
0 comments

The Source of Title - Part I: Freedom Written, Freedom Insured
Ben DuBay's Blog
2026/02/15
0 comments

Shared Driveway Agreements
Marissa Berends's Blog
2025/12/10
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

NAR Pending Home Sales Report Shows 1.8% Increase in February
“The slight gain in pending contracts appears to be driven by improved affordability conditions. However, those co...
New Home Sales Down in January on Weather Disruptions
“New home sales fell in January largely because of weather-related disruptions, even as mortgage rates eased modes...
FOMC Commentary from MBA's Mike Fratantoni
“Ongoing turmoil in the Middle East has significantly increased uncertainty regarding the current and future state...
Mortgage Applications Decrease in Latest MBA Weekly Survey
“Mortgage rates continued to move higher, driven by increasing Treasury yields as the conflict in the Middle East ...
New Title from NAHB's BuilderBooks Offers Advice on Using AI in Residential Construction
“Artificial intelligence is a growing part of our industry and is here to stay,” said NAHB Chairman Bill Owe...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.