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RELS Abstract - Brad McCollom/IN
7/25/2007 8:08:52 PM (2634 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - george Hubka/MI
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Re: RELS Abstract - Jill Kissell/IA
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NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/25/2007 5:40:58 PM (2264 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 6:51:04 PM (2929 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 6:56:49 PM (3030 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:02:19 PM (3089 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:07:27 PM (2925 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:10:54 PM (2896 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:14:36 PM (2879 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:23:33 PM (2996 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:28:05 PM (2937 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:32:34 PM (2898 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:34:10 PM (2871 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Patrick Scott/IL
7/25/2007 9:11:16 PM (2900 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 9:22:44 PM (2824 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/26/2007 11:46:38 AM (2786 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/26/2007 11:57:54 AM (2842 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 8:43:58 PM (2870 views)

Bravo Wanda!  You stated that very well.  I don't know why Mr. Ahern isn't complaining that ALTA hasn't yet chartered a bank so they could sell mortgages and refer work to their title company members. He simply misses the point of a "professional association."  No matter how well, and how simply, you explain it to him - he just isn't capable of understanding.

No matter how many times we tell people that we have spent many hours working on group discounts on E&O and health care premiums, people like Mr. Ahern just won't understand that those insurance companies aren't interested in offering such benefits until we have enough members to make it worth their while.  That seems to be a problem, as those like Mr. Ahern won't support NALTEA until those benefits are obtained - that is the "catch-22" that perplexes him so much.

Why he thinks that NALTEA has, or ever will have, the ability to "force" VMC's to send more work to particular individuals, or pay them more money when the competition is cheaper, is something that nobody but he will ever understand.  All a professional association can do, and what NALTEA does, is promote the importance of the role of the abstractor.  It's all about educating the clients, and the abstractors, so that they have a reason to "want to change" the status quo.  Unless someone forgot to tell me about it, there is no magic wand that NALTEA can waive to instantly produce huge profits for abstractors.

You are right that Mr. Ahern likes to argue, but he will never be a great litigator.  Litigation isn't about arguing - its about persuasion.  Pointing to a few unrealistic expectations and saying, "why haven't you don't this for me," doesn't rise to the level of litigation.  I don't think it's even an argument - its quite simply whining.

Perhaps he has not seen NALTEA's mission statement:

“To foster better understanding between the membership and others involved in the title profession, to provide information and education to the membership and others, and to assist the members in providing quality service to their clients.”

(No where in there is "obtain more work for the abstractors that they can charge higher fees for completing.)

Or NALTEA's stated objectives:

  • To establish and maintain uniform standards and practices for the profession of land records abstracting by setting forth guidelines for training, experience and ethical conduct.
  • To foster better relationships among title examiners/abstractors and those whom they serve, i.e., title insurers, lending institutions, attorneys and other land title professionals.
  • To provide information and education to the membership of the Association; to members of local, state and federal legislatures having jurisdiction over the land title industry; to consumers; and to businesses engaging in the transfer of ownership interests in real estate.
  • To promote understanding and awareness of the importance of the proper examination, abstracting and reporting of land title records.

(Again, no mention of "making sure that abstractors can make a bigger profit.")

I don't know where he got the idea that NALTEA was going to deliver more work to our members' fax machines.  The purpose isn't to run our members' businesses, I trust they are quite capable of doing that themselves.  Rather, the purpose is to educate, inform, and promote.  Generally to improve the industry - not Mr. Ahern's bank account.  Which NALTEA member promised him that? 

I don't know what professional associations Mr. Ahern belongs to, or which ones would have him, but if one of them is just mailing him money every month, I'd like to join too. 

Thanks again, Wanda.  You are quite right.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 10:10:26 PM (2731 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/3/2007 7:19:54 PM (2834 views)

real advantage - marilyn snyder/FL
7/25/2007 3:49:45 PM (2628 views)
Re: real advantage - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
7/26/2007 6:28:56 AM (2886 views)
Re: real advantage - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:48:32 AM (4644 views)

Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - don  sedy/NY
7/24/2007 10:54:29 PM (3173 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2007 11:40:17 AM (3239 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 11:49:01 AM (3163 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Wendi See/SC
7/25/2007 12:02:21 PM (3237 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/25/2007 12:40:22 PM (3132 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 1:18:46 PM (3039 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:28:39 PM (2997 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 4:38:19 PM (3134 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 5:29:52 PM (3105 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/25/2007 5:05:07 PM (3066 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 6:30:40 PM (3086 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:08:04 AM (2827 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - KS/IN
7/25/2007 9:27:52 PM (2980 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/28/2007 9:45:55 AM (2926 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Lisa Gilliam/TN
7/30/2007 9:20:38 AM (2898 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - David Shouse/GA
7/31/2007 12:55:05 PM (2822 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Denald McCarthy/MA
8/1/2007 7:21:07 PM (2816 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Andre Thomas/AZ
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/24/2007 7:15:15 PM (2289 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Amy Sandler Komisarek/NH
7/30/2007 8:30:47 AM (2824 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 9:04:48 AM (2832 views)


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JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - KS/IN
7/24/2007 4:29:50 PM (2717 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 4:48:40 PM (4933 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
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Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
7/28/2007 9:41:33 AM (2894 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
7/29/2007 11:51:05 PM (2820 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:12:57 AM (2800 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/1/2007 9:16:37 PM (2850 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
8/2/2007 9:41:00 PM (2765 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:49:48 AM (2868 views)
KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:23:00 PM (2970 views)
Re: KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/9/2007 6:53:11 AM (2855 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:47:02 AM (2875 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:44:37 AM (2946 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/13/2007 9:27:42 PM (2862 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
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Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:38:58 PM (2801 views)

payment history - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/23/2007 7:53:10 PM (2658 views)
Re: payment history - Joseph Weaver/VA
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Re: payment history - Bill Jones/NJ
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Re: payment history - David Shouse/GA
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Re: payment history - george Hubka/MI
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Re: payment history - Langdon Knight/MO
7/31/2007 12:41:58 AM (2830 views)

Abstractor Count and State Licensing - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/23/2007 6:46:06 PM (1817 views)

Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/23/2007 3:17:56 PM (2425 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Breakell/CT
7/23/2007 4:41:28 PM (2914 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
7/23/2007 4:52:12 PM (2779 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Jay Duncan/MO
7/24/2007 10:32:22 AM (2656 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 11:14:49 AM (2759 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:58:43 PM (2649 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Robert Franco/OH
7/27/2007 12:47:21 AM (2739 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - David Bloys/TX
7/28/2007 8:29:50 PM (2735 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/29/2007 10:50:23 PM (2655 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 5:16:06 PM (2679 views)
Re: Just for the sake of debate... - george Hubka/MI
7/23/2007 7:43:05 PM (2718 views)

U.S. Land Title - Kurt deVries/FL
7/23/2007 1:49:24 PM (2501 views)
Re: U.S. Land Title - David Nixon/MA
7/24/2007 3:01:29 PM (3015 views)
Re: U.S. Land Title - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/26/2007 5:08:20 PM (2827 views)

Help please..... - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/22/2007 4:14:03 AM (2495 views)
Re: Help please..... - Carol Walker/AZ
7/23/2007 1:34:28 PM (2920 views)
Re: Help please..... - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Help please..... - Janis Talbot/SC
9/17/2007 9:43:05 AM (2716 views)

Title Stream Info - Shannon Blatt/VA
7/20/2007 10:46:53 PM (2838 views)
Re: Title Stream Info - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: Title Stream Info - Scott Perry/PA
7/23/2007 7:19:59 PM (2843 views)
Re: Title Stream Info - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/24/2007 9:04:21 AM (2805 views)
Re: Title Stream Info - James Powell/MI
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Re: Title Stream Info - Dan Zook/NY
7/24/2007 9:07:46 AM (2767 views)
Re: Title Stream Info - Tempie Elder/TX
7/24/2007 4:39:15 PM (2809 views)

Ever Do A Search On A Parking Space? - David Bloys/TX
7/20/2007 10:17:46 PM (3609 views)
Re: Ever Do A Search On A Parking Space? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Ever Do A Search On A Parking Space? - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/22/2007 4:31:02 AM (3003 views)
Searching A Parking Space for the Novice - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/23/2007 8:18:51 AM (2947 views)
Re: Searching A Parking Space for the Novice - Anita Backlund/MN
7/26/2007 3:44:14 PM (2831 views)

Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/20/2007 12:17:55 PM (2466 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/20/2007 1:24:18 PM (3019 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Jay Duncan/MO
7/20/2007 5:58:29 PM (3021 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/21/2007 10:55:32 AM (3061 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
7/21/2007 11:17:24 AM (2978 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/21/2007 12:51:36 PM (2994 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/21/2007 2:47:14 PM (2873 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/21/2007 6:29:07 PM (2942 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/21/2007 8:14:35 PM (2882 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Sandra Morton/KS
7/24/2007 11:10:37 AM (2940 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2007 11:32:26 AM (2868 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 1:30:49 PM (2877 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2007 1:43:59 PM (2887 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Kansas title searches - Jay Duncan/MO
7/24/2007 3:02:44 PM (2784 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/24/2007 3:04:18 PM (2817 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 3:26:43 PM (2799 views)
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Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Kansas title searches - Sandra Morton/KS
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Re: Kansas title searches - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Kansas title searches - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Kansas title searches - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Kansas title searches - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Kansas title searches - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Kansas title searches - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/24/2007 6:58:33 PM (4461 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Scott Perry/PA
7/24/2007 4:42:35 PM (2827 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - Sandra Morton/KS
7/30/2007 11:44:13 AM (2796 views)
Re: Kansas title searches - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
7/31/2007 4:18:00 PM (2741 views)

companies that don't pay - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
7/20/2007 9:21:18 AM (2719 views)
Re: companies that don't pay - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/20/2007 10:20:07 AM (2976 views)
Re: companies that don't pay - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/23/2007 3:48:31 PM (2922 views)
Re: companies that don't pay - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
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Re: companies that don't pay - Jessica Talley/NJ
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