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Absolute Property Services - Mike/KS
7/30/2007 12:41:48 AM (2898 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Absolute Property Services - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 2:59:49 AM (2932 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Becky Kale/IL
8/1/2007 12:12:04 PM (2869 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Philip Cotugno/MA
8/5/2007 5:16:00 PM (2906 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Lauri Bessey/NH
8/6/2007 7:44:10 AM (2940 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:23:30 AM (2924 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - James "Lin" Toney/MS
8/6/2007 10:23:18 AM (2934 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Lauri Bessey/NH
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Sentinal Screening LLC - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 3:24:48 PM (2349 views)
Re: Sentinal Screening LLC - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/31/2007 9:41:17 AM (2907 views)
Re: Sentinal Screening LLC - Dan Zook/NY
7/31/2007 10:09:14 AM (4643 views)

Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 1:42:50 PM (2737 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 2:39:37 PM (3133 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:18:30 PM (3116 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 3:29:23 PM (3044 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 3:33:23 PM (3014 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:43:58 PM (2994 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Scott Perry/PA
7/27/2007 6:25:16 PM (2985 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:08:40 AM (2919 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Lauri Bessey/NH
8/6/2007 7:54:53 AM (3041 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:14 AM (2889 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Elvin Hill/TX
7/27/2007 5:34:19 PM (2938 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:36 AM (2832 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wendi See/SC
7/27/2007 6:31:59 PM (3035 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - george Hubka/MI
7/29/2007 10:43:18 PM (2858 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:15:35 AM (2871 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - REGINA TAYLOR/AL
7/30/2007 10:29:13 AM (2916 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Patrick Tarr/NE
8/2/2007 2:22:23 AM (2890 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:16:22 AM (2907 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Peggy  Taylor/CT
8/6/2007 8:42:41 PM (2893 views)

TransUnion Info requested - Elvin Hill/TX
7/26/2007 3:37:50 PM (2651 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 5:54:02 PM (3216 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
7/26/2007 6:17:26 PM (3146 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Chris Meier/OH
7/30/2007 12:07:09 PM (2993 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - TONY BROWN/VA
7/30/2007 5:10:08 PM (3000 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:55:45 PM (2863 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 9:47:29 AM (2811 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jodi Thornton/MS
8/6/2007 9:56:25 AM (3009 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Rebecca  /FL
2/6/2008 10:41:12 PM (2927 views)

Title Stream - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 2:14:33 PM (2820 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
7/26/2007 2:40:10 PM (2969 views)
Re: Title Stream - Robert Franco/OH
7/26/2007 3:15:48 PM (5913 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lois & Glen Morgan/TN
7/26/2007 3:35:09 PM (3083 views)
Re: Title Stream - David Bloys/TX
8/3/2007 1:13:09 PM (4910 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/30/2007 10:22:59 AM (2949 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 10:36:54 AM (3036 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 10:49:58 AM (2843 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 12:08:39 PM (2845 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 12:20:54 PM (2803 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 1:17:00 PM (2982 views)
Re: Title Stream - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/4/2007 4:14:51 PM (2924 views)
Re: Title Stream - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:46:15 AM (4610 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/6/2007 7:46:51 PM (2882 views)
Re: Title Stream - Laura Darby/OH
7/9/2008 12:41:02 PM (2866 views)
Title Stream - Becky Wingert /TX
7/30/2007 1:59:40 PM (2902 views)


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NALTEA Benefits - Jay Duncan/MO
7/26/2007 8:45:54 AM (2478 views)
What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 4:53:20 PM (2870 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:25:30 PM (2965 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 10:36:00 PM (2843 views)

Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
7/25/2007 8:21:39 PM (2632 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Dan Zook/NY
7/26/2007 2:35:56 PM (2956 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/2/2007 10:58:01 PM (2776 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/15/2007 6:12:38 PM (2848 views)

RELS Abstract - Brad McCollom/IN
7/25/2007 8:08:52 PM (2678 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:20:38 PM (3003 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:37:50 PM (2944 views)

NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/25/2007 5:40:58 PM (2304 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 6:51:04 PM (3059 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 6:56:49 PM (3151 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:02:19 PM (3237 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:07:27 PM (3075 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:10:54 PM (3045 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:14:36 PM (3008 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:23:33 PM (3137 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:28:05 PM (3052 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:32:34 PM (3020 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:34:10 PM (2992 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Patrick Scott/IL
7/25/2007 9:11:16 PM (3061 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 9:22:44 PM (2971 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/26/2007 11:46:38 AM (2926 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/26/2007 11:57:54 AM (2966 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 8:43:58 PM (3023 views)

Bravo Wanda!  You stated that very well.  I don't know why Mr. Ahern isn't complaining that ALTA hasn't yet chartered a bank so they could sell mortgages and refer work to their title company members. He simply misses the point of a "professional association."  No matter how well, and how simply, you explain it to him - he just isn't capable of understanding.

No matter how many times we tell people that we have spent many hours working on group discounts on E&O and health care premiums, people like Mr. Ahern just won't understand that those insurance companies aren't interested in offering such benefits until we have enough members to make it worth their while.  That seems to be a problem, as those like Mr. Ahern won't support NALTEA until those benefits are obtained - that is the "catch-22" that perplexes him so much.

Why he thinks that NALTEA has, or ever will have, the ability to "force" VMC's to send more work to particular individuals, or pay them more money when the competition is cheaper, is something that nobody but he will ever understand.  All a professional association can do, and what NALTEA does, is promote the importance of the role of the abstractor.  It's all about educating the clients, and the abstractors, so that they have a reason to "want to change" the status quo.  Unless someone forgot to tell me about it, there is no magic wand that NALTEA can waive to instantly produce huge profits for abstractors.

You are right that Mr. Ahern likes to argue, but he will never be a great litigator.  Litigation isn't about arguing - its about persuasion.  Pointing to a few unrealistic expectations and saying, "why haven't you don't this for me," doesn't rise to the level of litigation.  I don't think it's even an argument - its quite simply whining.

Perhaps he has not seen NALTEA's mission statement:

“To foster better understanding between the membership and others involved in the title profession, to provide information and education to the membership and others, and to assist the members in providing quality service to their clients.”

(No where in there is "obtain more work for the abstractors that they can charge higher fees for completing.)

Or NALTEA's stated objectives:

  • To establish and maintain uniform standards and practices for the profession of land records abstracting by setting forth guidelines for training, experience and ethical conduct.
  • To foster better relationships among title examiners/abstractors and those whom they serve, i.e., title insurers, lending institutions, attorneys and other land title professionals.
  • To provide information and education to the membership of the Association; to members of local, state and federal legislatures having jurisdiction over the land title industry; to consumers; and to businesses engaging in the transfer of ownership interests in real estate.
  • To promote understanding and awareness of the importance of the proper examination, abstracting and reporting of land title records.

(Again, no mention of "making sure that abstractors can make a bigger profit.")

I don't know where he got the idea that NALTEA was going to deliver more work to our members' fax machines.  The purpose isn't to run our members' businesses, I trust they are quite capable of doing that themselves.  Rather, the purpose is to educate, inform, and promote.  Generally to improve the industry - not Mr. Ahern's bank account.  Which NALTEA member promised him that? 

I don't know what professional associations Mr. Ahern belongs to, or which ones would have him, but if one of them is just mailing him money every month, I'd like to join too. 

Thanks again, Wanda.  You are quite right.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 10:10:26 PM (2872 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Smitty Strickland/SC
8/3/2007 7:19:54 PM (2978 views)

real advantage - marilyn snyder/FL
7/25/2007 3:49:45 PM (2683 views)
Re: real advantage - ANDREW MOLLER/CT
7/26/2007 6:28:56 AM (3007 views)
Re: real advantage - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:48:32 AM (4799 views)

Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - don  sedy/NY
7/24/2007 10:54:29 PM (3217 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
7/25/2007 11:40:17 AM (3382 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 11:49:01 AM (3303 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Wendi See/SC
7/25/2007 12:02:21 PM (3382 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Julie Jasiunas/WI
7/25/2007 12:40:22 PM (3274 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 1:18:46 PM (3155 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:28:39 PM (3142 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 4:38:19 PM (3272 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 5:29:52 PM (3237 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/25/2007 5:05:07 PM (3220 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 6:30:40 PM (3215 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:08:04 AM (2942 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - KS/IN
7/25/2007 9:27:52 PM (3110 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
7/28/2007 9:45:55 AM (3072 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Lisa Gilliam/TN
7/30/2007 9:20:38 AM (3030 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - David Shouse/GA
7/31/2007 12:55:05 PM (2942 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Denald McCarthy/MA
8/1/2007 7:21:07 PM (2959 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Andre Thomas/AZ
8/8/2007 3:56:54 PM (2980 views)
Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/8/2007 5:04:07 PM (2978 views)

Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/24/2007 7:15:15 PM (2337 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Amy Sandler Komisarek/NH
7/30/2007 8:30:47 AM (2965 views)
Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 9:04:48 AM (2966 views)

JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - KS/IN
7/24/2007 4:29:50 PM (2762 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Robert Franco/OH
7/24/2007 4:48:40 PM (5075 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/25/2007 4:37:08 PM (3137 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:50:52 PM (3097 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
7/28/2007 9:41:33 AM (3021 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
7/29/2007 11:51:05 PM (2958 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:12:57 AM (2925 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/1/2007 9:16:37 PM (2967 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - george Hubka/MI
8/2/2007 9:41:00 PM (2891 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:49:48 AM (3006 views)
KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:23:00 PM (3116 views)
Re: KS Please read: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/9/2007 6:53:11 AM (2980 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:47:02 AM (3010 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/6/2007 6:44:37 AM (3058 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/13/2007 9:27:42 PM (2996 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:37:33 PM (2837 views)
Re: JUST AN FYI FOR ALL - ks/IN
8/14/2007 5:38:58 PM (2906 views)

payment history - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/23/2007 7:53:10 PM (2709 views)
Re: payment history - Joseph Weaver/VA
7/23/2007 10:26:54 PM (2944 views)
Re: payment history - Bill Jones/NJ
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Re: payment history - David Shouse/GA
7/24/2007 6:23:38 PM (2997 views)
Re: payment history - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 3:15:21 AM (2874 views)
Re: payment history - Langdon Knight/MO
7/31/2007 12:41:58 AM (2948 views)

Abstractor Count and State Licensing - Lynn Hammett/SC
7/23/2007 6:46:06 PM (1837 views)


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