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Cfacts payment problems - April G./CA
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - April/CA
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
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Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/8/2007 7:54:40 PM (3217 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/8/2007 9:11:08 PM (3162 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
8/8/2007 10:03:44 PM (3072 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/9/2007 10:14:03 AM (3154 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - J Nisonger/CA
8/11/2007 7:44:28 PM (3086 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/12/2007 1:06:12 PM (2997 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/9/2007 10:51:13 PM (3136 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/10/2007 9:10:30 AM (3114 views)
Re: Cfacts payment problems - george Hubka/MI
8/10/2007 10:58:47 PM (2960 views)

Texas AG Warns Homeowners - David Bloys/TX
8/3/2007 12:56:49 PM (2958 views)

nations title - PAM DESMARAIS/NC
8/1/2007 10:03:41 AM (2684 views)
Re: nations title - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/1/2007 5:14:54 PM (3286 views)
Re: nations title - Alix Ott/MI
8/6/2007 8:18:24 AM (3203 views)
Re: nations title - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/6/2007 4:37:06 PM (3033 views)
Re: nations title - Alix Ott/MI
8/13/2007 9:10:40 AM (3164 views)
Re: nations title - Amy Curtiss/MI
8/14/2007 5:52:47 PM (3164 views)
Re: nations title - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/15/2007 3:54:20 PM (2945 views)

Absolute Property Services - Mike/KS
7/30/2007 12:41:48 AM (3007 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Absolute Property Services - george Hubka/MI
7/31/2007 2:59:49 AM (3071 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Becky Kale/IL
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Philip Cotugno/MA
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Lauri Bessey/NH
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Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Absolute Property Services EMAIL - Lauri Bessey/NH
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Sentinal Screening LLC - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 3:24:48 PM (2396 views)
Re: Sentinal Screening LLC - Rob  Robinson/PA
7/31/2007 9:41:17 AM (3046 views)
Re: Sentinal Screening LLC - Dan Zook/NY
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Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 1:42:50 PM (2786 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 2:39:37 PM (3255 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:18:30 PM (3242 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 3:29:23 PM (3161 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/27/2007 3:33:23 PM (3145 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
7/27/2007 3:43:58 PM (3134 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Scott Perry/PA
7/27/2007 6:25:16 PM (3106 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:08:40 AM (3041 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Lauri Bessey/NH
8/6/2007 7:54:53 AM (3178 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:14 AM (3013 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Elvin Hill/TX
7/27/2007 5:34:19 PM (3062 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:14:36 AM (2946 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wendi See/SC
7/27/2007 6:31:59 PM (3169 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - george Hubka/MI
7/29/2007 10:43:18 PM (2987 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:15:35 AM (3006 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - REGINA TAYLOR/AL
7/30/2007 10:29:13 AM (3030 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Patrick Tarr/NE
8/2/2007 2:22:23 AM (3047 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Wayne Schutt II/NY
8/6/2007 9:16:22 AM (3045 views)
Re: Cancelled searchs / Payment? - Peggy  Taylor/CT
8/6/2007 8:42:41 PM (3030 views)

TransUnion Info requested - Elvin Hill/TX
7/26/2007 3:37:50 PM (2690 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 5:54:02 PM (3363 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
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Re: TransUnion Info requested - Chris Meier/OH
7/30/2007 12:07:09 PM (3111 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - TONY BROWN/VA
7/30/2007 5:10:08 PM (3129 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:55:45 PM (2987 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 9:47:29 AM (2955 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Jodi Thornton/MS
8/6/2007 9:56:25 AM (3141 views)
Re: TransUnion Info requested - Rebecca  /FL
2/6/2008 10:41:12 PM (3051 views)

Title Stream - Tempie Elder/TX
7/26/2007 2:14:33 PM (2864 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
7/26/2007 2:40:10 PM (3091 views)
Re: Title Stream - Robert Franco/OH
7/26/2007 3:15:48 PM (6063 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lois & Glen Morgan/TN
7/26/2007 3:35:09 PM (3206 views)
Re: Title Stream - David Bloys/TX
8/3/2007 1:13:09 PM (5051 views)
Re: Title Stream - Lori Cassidy/CT
7/30/2007 10:22:59 AM (3064 views)
Re: Title Stream - Dan Zook/NY
7/27/2007 10:36:54 AM (3173 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
7/30/2007 10:49:58 AM (2952 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 12:08:39 PM (2976 views)
Re: Title Stream - Loretta Reed/MD
8/3/2007 12:20:54 PM (2943 views)
Re: Title Stream - J Nisonger/CA
8/3/2007 1:17:00 PM (3084 views)
Re: Title Stream - Shannon Blatt/VA
8/4/2007 4:14:51 PM (3050 views)
Re: Title Stream - Victoria Ledford/TN
8/6/2007 8:46:15 AM (4745 views)
Re: Title Stream - Wendi See/SC
8/6/2007 7:46:51 PM (2994 views)
Re: Title Stream - Laura Darby/OH
7/9/2008 12:41:02 PM (3000 views)
Title Stream - Becky Wingert /TX
7/30/2007 1:59:40 PM (3017 views)

NALTEA Benefits - Jay Duncan/MO
7/26/2007 8:45:54 AM (2523 views)
What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 4:53:20 PM (2995 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - J Nisonger/CA
8/7/2007 7:25:30 PM (3083 views)
Re: What other benefits would you like to see? - Jay Duncan/MO
8/7/2007 10:36:00 PM (2963 views)

Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
7/25/2007 8:21:39 PM (2659 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Dan Zook/NY
7/26/2007 2:35:56 PM (3073 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/2/2007 10:58:01 PM (2883 views)
Re: Three Arch Capital in CA - Jean Allen/NC
8/15/2007 6:12:38 PM (2959 views)

RELS Abstract - Brad McCollom/IN
7/25/2007 8:08:52 PM (2703 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - george Hubka/MI
7/26/2007 9:20:38 PM (3103 views)
Re: RELS Abstract - Jill Kissell/IA
8/2/2007 10:37:50 PM (3042 views)

NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/25/2007 5:40:58 PM (2344 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 6:51:04 PM (3147 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 6:56:49 PM (3248 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:02:19 PM (3344 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:07:27 PM (3181 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:10:54 PM (3158 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:14:36 PM (3100 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:23:33 PM (3236 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:28:05 PM (3131 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 7:32:34 PM (3101 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/25/2007 7:34:10 PM (3085 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Patrick Scott/IL
7/25/2007 9:11:16 PM (3164 views)
Re: Uh...er...ahem - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 9:22:44 PM (3070 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Wanda Steudel/OH
7/26/2007 11:46:38 AM (3036 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/26/2007 11:57:54 AM (3056 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Robert Franco/OH
7/25/2007 8:43:58 PM (3143 views)

Bravo Wanda!  You stated that very well.  I don't know why Mr. Ahern isn't complaining that ALTA hasn't yet chartered a bank so they could sell mortgages and refer work to their title company members. He simply misses the point of a "professional association."  No matter how well, and how simply, you explain it to him - he just isn't capable of understanding.

No matter how many times we tell people that we have spent many hours working on group discounts on E&O and health care premiums, people like Mr. Ahern just won't understand that those insurance companies aren't interested in offering such benefits until we have enough members to make it worth their while.  That seems to be a problem, as those like Mr. Ahern won't support NALTEA until those benefits are obtained - that is the "catch-22" that perplexes him so much.

Why he thinks that NALTEA has, or ever will have, the ability to "force" VMC's to send more work to particular individuals, or pay them more money when the competition is cheaper, is something that nobody but he will ever understand.  All a professional association can do, and what NALTEA does, is promote the importance of the role of the abstractor.  It's all about educating the clients, and the abstractors, so that they have a reason to "want to change" the status quo.  Unless someone forgot to tell me about it, there is no magic wand that NALTEA can waive to instantly produce huge profits for abstractors.

You are right that Mr. Ahern likes to argue, but he will never be a great litigator.  Litigation isn't about arguing - its about persuasion.  Pointing to a few unrealistic expectations and saying, "why haven't you don't this for me," doesn't rise to the level of litigation.  I don't think it's even an argument - its quite simply whining.

Perhaps he has not seen NALTEA's mission statement:

“To foster better understanding between the membership and others involved in the title profession, to provide information and education to the membership and others, and to assist the members in providing quality service to their clients.”

(No where in there is "obtain more work for the abstractors that they can charge higher fees for completing.)

Or NALTEA's stated objectives:

  • To establish and maintain uniform standards and practices for the profession of land records abstracting by setting forth guidelines for training, experience and ethical conduct.
  • To foster better relationships among title examiners/abstractors and those whom they serve, i.e., title insurers, lending institutions, attorneys and other land title professionals.
  • To provide information and education to the membership of the Association; to members of local, state and federal legislatures having jurisdiction over the land title industry; to consumers; and to businesses engaging in the transfer of ownership interests in real estate.
  • To promote understanding and awareness of the importance of the proper examination, abstracting and reporting of land title records.

(Again, no mention of "making sure that abstractors can make a bigger profit.")

I don't know where he got the idea that NALTEA was going to deliver more work to our members' fax machines.  The purpose isn't to run our members' businesses, I trust they are quite capable of doing that themselves.  Rather, the purpose is to educate, inform, and promote.  Generally to improve the industry - not Mr. Ahern's bank account.  Which NALTEA member promised him that? 

I don't know what professional associations Mr. Ahern belongs to, or which ones would have him, but if one of them is just mailing him money every month, I'd like to join too. 

Thanks again, Wanda.  You are quite right.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Scott Perry/PA
7/25/2007 10:10:26 PM (2949 views)
Re: NALTEA & "New Ideas" - Smitty Strickland/SC
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real advantage - marilyn snyder/FL
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Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - don  sedy/NY
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - KS/IN
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Kim Cowles/WI
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - Lisa Gilliam/TN
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Re: Titlesearch USA Message to all Abstractors - David Shouse/GA
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Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Talk to me New Hampshire people.... - Loretta Reed/MD
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