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Proposals aimed at helping those with risky mortgages keep their homes. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/31/2007 2:14:48 PM (3372 views)

Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 8:59:09 AM (2561 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - George Booth/OH
8/31/2007 10:04:12 AM (3348 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:23:42 PM (3402 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:51:57 PM (3225 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:37:51 AM (3335 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 1:32:54 PM (3232 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/1/2007 8:18:32 AM (3386 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:09:20 AM (3297 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 12:13:42 PM (3336 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 2:33:56 PM (3399 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 5:14:54 PM (3356 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 6:27:34 PM (3263 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - john franz/NJ
9/4/2007 3:39:08 PM (3299 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/3/2007 9:11:12 AM (3336 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/3/2007 11:43:09 AM (3290 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 2:24:28 PM (3198 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/4/2007 9:19:45 PM (3215 views)

Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 7:06:09 PM (2356 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Robert Franco/OH
8/31/2007 1:26:14 PM (3373 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:17:33 PM (3244 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/1/2007 6:17:16 PM (3214 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/2/2007 5:02:42 PM (3216 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:38 AM (3197 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:39 AM (3054 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/4/2007 11:47:45 PM (3107 views)

Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 6:59:14 PM (2421 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - John Povejsil/MN
8/31/2007 12:12:06 PM (3412 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/31/2007 12:12:28 PM (3442 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:34:41 PM (3198 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Kurt deVries/FL
9/4/2007 1:07:46 PM (3332 views)

Kevin's Back! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:55:56 PM (2479 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 3:48:18 PM (3378 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Scott Perry/PA
8/30/2007 5:01:34 PM (3400 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 5:51:44 PM (3402 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:16:08 PM (3470 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 5:38:48 PM (3290 views)




Crying in my rootbeer - NoName/CA
8/30/2007 12:08:30 AM (2629 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:39:56 AM (3432 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - SGL/MD
8/30/2007 12:30:03 PM (3472 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 1:18:16 PM (3456 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - marilyn snyder/FL
8/30/2007 1:23:36 PM (3462 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 12:00:06 AM (3341 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 12:09:43 PM (3363 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - WAYNE QUICK/NC
9/4/2007 8:57:59 PM (3237 views)
Re: Crying in my rootbeer - Jon Lax/RI
9/4/2007 9:43:46 PM (3406 views)

US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 5:43:34 PM (2709 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Vikki Moffitt/GA
8/30/2007 7:00:25 PM (3397 views)
Re: US TITLE CORP, KNOXVILLE - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:40:15 AM (3316 views)

Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:50:58 PM (3014 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:52:42 PM (3815 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
8/27/2007 9:25:57 PM (3780 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Dan Zook/NY
8/29/2007 9:15:52 AM (3663 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
8/27/2007 7:56:52 PM (3749 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Things Fdup/CA
8/28/2007 9:49:53 PM (3875 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Laurie Puckett/TN
9/4/2007 8:32:45 AM (3497 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Greg/VA
9/4/2007 6:25:03 PM (3468 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:32:04 PM (3467 views)
Re: Deadbeats - SandyB/NY
9/5/2007 4:34:04 PM (3544 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/5/2007 7:04:13 PM (3541 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Joseph Weaver/VA
9/6/2007 7:41:08 PM (3353 views)

How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Jacqueline Costa/RI
8/27/2007 5:10:55 PM (2761 views)
Re: How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/28/2007 9:14:49 AM (3565 views)

Ohio Title Company Bankrupt - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 12:45:34 PM (2228 views)

Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2700 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/27/2007 11:47:34 AM (3695 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:43:57 AM (5201 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 1:08:33 PM (3600 views)

Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:28:41 PM (1890 views)

Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2588 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/26/2007 9:00:27 PM (3882 views)
Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
8/26/2007 10:19:00 PM (3719 views)
Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
8/27/2007 9:56:23 AM (3614 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
8/27/2007 10:04:20 AM (3657 views)
Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
8/27/2007 11:24:20 AM (3719 views)
Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
8/27/2007 11:40:59 AM (3558 views)
Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
8/27/2007 12:28:10 PM (3623 views)
Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
8/27/2007 1:05:04 PM (3601 views)
Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
8/27/2007 2:29:41 PM (3575 views)
Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (3568 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (3605 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 9:12:03 PM (3664 views)
Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3739 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3892 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (3588 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (3423 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (3531 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (3536 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (3542 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (3501 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (3564 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (3585 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (4889 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:48:49 PM (3625 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (3378 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 2:17:28 PM (3481 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:33:00 AM (3550 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/30/2007 9:43:50 PM (3525 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
8/30/2007 10:49:32 PM (3432 views)
Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
8/31/2007 9:37:07 AM (3419 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (3432 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2753 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
8/24/2007 4:38:49 PM (3742 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:20:56 AM (3609 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/28/2007 7:04:38 PM (3546 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:18:24 AM (3532 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (3499 views)


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