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Infinity - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 11:43:05 AM (2837 views)
Re: Infinity - Dave Pell/GA
9/6/2007 1:55:28 PM (3725 views)
Re: Infinity - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/6/2007 3:12:06 PM (3471 views)
Re: Infinity - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 3:17:16 PM (3529 views)
Re: Infinity - ks/IN
9/6/2007 3:26:42 PM (3515 views)
Re: Infinity - george Hubka/MI
9/6/2007 10:37:01 PM (3431 views)
Re: Infinity - ks/IN
9/7/2007 7:08:17 AM (3456 views)
Re: Infinity - george Hubka/MI
9/6/2007 10:34:51 PM (3684 views)
Re: Infinity - Jill Kissell/IA
9/7/2007 10:58:29 AM (3473 views)
Re: Infinity - Scott Perry/PA
9/7/2007 12:05:41 PM (3407 views)
Re: Infinity - J Nisonger/CA
9/7/2007 6:47:33 PM (3363 views)
Re: Infinity - Ron McPherson/IA
9/7/2007 10:51:22 PM (3443 views)
Re: Infinity - Loretta Reed/MD
9/8/2007 7:55:29 AM (3257 views)
Re: Infinity - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2007 1:14:02 PM (3304 views)
Re: Infinity - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2007 6:31:49 PM (4815 views)
Re: Infinity - Ron McPherson/IA
9/10/2007 9:51:09 AM (3215 views)
Re: Infinity - Phil McLean/CO
9/10/2007 12:28:57 PM (3278 views)
Re: Infinity - Glenda Hodge/TN
9/11/2007 12:55:23 PM (3284 views)
Re: Infinity - Spencer Kinsey/AR
9/13/2007 5:05:49 PM (3287 views)

Collections - Dan Zook/NY
9/6/2007 9:05:43 AM (2607 views)
Re: Collections - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
9/7/2007 6:29:36 PM (3300 views)
Re: Collections - Dan Zook/NY
9/10/2007 9:21:47 AM (3242 views)
Re: Collections - Aneza Abalo/PA
9/10/2007 1:41:19 PM (3394 views)
Re: Collections - Wendi See/SC
9/10/2007 4:16:17 PM (4775 views)

Contractual Conditions? - M. C./ME
9/6/2007 12:34:22 AM (2620 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/6/2007 7:58:16 AM (3430 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 8:32:16 AM (3347 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Dan Zook/NY
9/6/2007 8:59:35 AM (3464 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 9:34:09 AM (3390 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Dan Zook/NY
9/6/2007 10:11:15 AM (3443 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 10:12:41 AM (3267 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Scott Perry/PA
9/7/2007 12:16:22 PM (3258 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Seth Levine/MD
9/6/2007 10:05:33 AM (3320 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2007 10:14:27 AM (3362 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2007 10:15:49 AM (3436 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Patrick Scott/IL
9/6/2007 5:35:26 PM (3283 views)

I am opposed to that kind of arrangement.  There are three reasons for my opposition:

1. There simply is not enough margin, even with a higher fee for the successful loans considered, to cover the additional work (see point number 2). 

While it is customary for title insurers and their agents to charge only when the loan closes, the premiums, endorsement fees, etc. charged on the successful files should well enough subsidize the washes. 

2. The abstractor would probably see a need to update any unpaid search to verify the truthfulness of his/her customer.  Not knowing if or when a loan may have closed, or how long it might take for the mortgage document to travel through the various channels before arriving at the clerk/recorder's office, one might conduct several updates on a single file before being satisfied that the loan was indeed a wash.

3. It has never been standard practice, to my knowledge, for payment of a title search to be contingent upon closing/funding of a loan.  This sort of practice might start out seeming inoccuous enough, with honest dealers like Seth looking for a way to avoid downwardly mobile income.  Then come the companies working for clients with higher fall-through rates. As the practice gains acceptance, the abstractor will find him/herself devoting far too much time to investigating unpaid files.  Practices unfavorable to the abstractors seem to creep in this business.  They soon enough become demands instead of arrangements.

The way it should work:  Title insurers and their agents who wish to venture beyond the boundaries they are able to handle with their own search staff should price their service in accordance with the reality that bills must be paid for the files that fall through.  Employing search staff across a wide region would still be for more expensive than absorbing the costs of files that don't pay off.  It is their job, also, to keep an eye on their own customers' cancellation rates.

And another thing.  The middlemen/women, the vendor managers, who are not issuing policies, but simply reselling the searches to the insurers or agents, should be resisting this ominous practice along with the abstractors.

That's what I think, anyway.  How about you?

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Re: Contractual Conditions? - Melissa Champine/ME
9/8/2007 1:09:01 AM (3139 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2007 4:49:20 AM (3193 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Ralph Justice/KY
9/9/2007 5:59:07 PM (3245 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2007 7:18:09 PM (3227 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Ralph Justice/KY
9/9/2007 10:10:19 PM (3174 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2007 10:31:30 PM (3273 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/10/2007 12:22:38 PM (3172 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2007 10:09:44 AM (3134 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2007 6:49:15 AM (3275 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Robert Franco/OH
9/10/2007 9:48:27 AM (3185 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
9/10/2007 8:14:25 AM (3188 views)
Re: Contractual Conditions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/10/2007 8:45:50 AM (3234 views)

Old West Trivia - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2007 8:29:21 AM (2505 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - Jay Duncan/MO
9/5/2007 11:22:49 AM (3217 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - Robert Franco/OH
9/5/2007 12:06:04 PM (3324 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2007 2:24:02 PM (3278 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2007 12:12:53 PM (3216 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - J Nisonger/CA
9/5/2007 2:37:22 PM (3160 views)
Re: Old West Trivia - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2007 3:53:16 PM (3285 views)

Anyone have any information: - Theresa Ritz/WV
9/4/2007 12:17:40 PM (3253 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Eric Carver/AR
9/4/2007 3:03:34 PM (3350 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Seth Levine/MD
9/4/2007 3:31:04 PM (3335 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Eric Carver/AR
9/4/2007 4:00:15 PM (3362 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Seth Levine/MD
9/4/2007 4:14:01 PM (3356 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Robert Franco/OH
9/4/2007 4:38:39 PM (3364 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Lori Cassidy/CT
9/4/2007 10:06:57 PM (3288 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
9/10/2007 12:39:21 PM (3078 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/10/2007 6:38:02 PM (3133 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Francis Gottron/OH
9/5/2007 8:27:23 AM (3257 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Theresa Ritz/WV
9/6/2007 8:39:26 PM (3181 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Janis Talbot/SC
9/10/2007 6:45:52 AM (3128 views)
Re: Anyone have any information: - Lauri Bessey/NH
9/10/2007 7:51:35 AM (3198 views)




Courthouse Searchers, Inc. - Kristi Lee/NE
9/4/2007 11:57:54 AM (2728 views)
Re: Courthouse Searchers, Inc. - Helene /GA
9/10/2007 9:22:59 PM (2986 views)

Residential Title Services - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/3/2007 1:05:26 PM (2883 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Jay Duncan/MO
9/3/2007 3:28:38 PM (3354 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - M.C./ME
9/3/2007 10:52:53 PM (3273 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Rod Hefner/KS
9/4/2007 7:44:31 AM (3299 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Gone - Scott Aduddell/MO
9/4/2007 11:22:15 AM (3246 views)
Re: Residential Title Services - Aneza Abalo/PA
9/10/2007 2:01:59 PM (3183 views)

Office Depot - Catalog - Carla Curry/KY
9/2/2007 11:38:56 AM (2609 views)
Re: Office Depot - Catalog - Robert Franco/OH
9/2/2007 6:27:00 PM (3162 views)

Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/1/2007 10:04:01 PM (2732 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Jay Duncan/MO
9/1/2007 11:31:24 PM (3230 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 7:27:50 AM (3044 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 9:55:27 AM (3096 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 10:48:18 AM (3088 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/4/2007 1:51:02 PM (4544 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Seth Levine/MD
9/4/2007 3:36:10 PM (3099 views)
Re: Okay guys....here's a question for you - Loretta Reed/MD
9/4/2007 4:41:01 PM (3039 views)

Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
8/31/2007 4:03:30 PM (2769 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:30:09 PM (3259 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - george Hubka/MI
8/31/2007 11:38:23 PM (3313 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/1/2007 2:52:01 AM (3166 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/1/2007 8:54:07 AM (3241 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Loretta Reed/MD
9/1/2007 9:00:18 AM (3179 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/1/2007 12:18:35 PM (3049 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Wendi See/SC
9/1/2007 11:42:32 AM (3035 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - M.C./ME
9/2/2007 12:57:00 AM (3125 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 10:07:17 AM (3212 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/2/2007 10:32:23 AM (3148 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - ks/IN
9/2/2007 11:51:44 AM (3218 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/2/2007 6:50:34 PM (3165 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/4/2007 9:11:26 AM (2994 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/5/2007 11:44:30 PM (3088 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Victoria Ledford/TN
9/4/2007 11:04:09 AM (4642 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - John Clifford Brewer/VA
9/4/2007 10:46:49 PM (3213 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Barry Campbell/NY
9/4/2007 12:02:52 PM (3182 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:27:36 PM (3188 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Barry Campbell/NY
9/5/2007 1:00:54 AM (3117 views)
Re: Please give me a reason to BELIEVE. - Melissa Champine/ME
9/5/2007 11:50:48 PM (3039 views)

Proposals aimed at helping those with risky mortgages keep their homes. - Jay Duncan/MO
8/31/2007 2:14:48 PM (3313 views)

Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 8:59:09 AM (2527 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - George Booth/OH
8/31/2007 10:04:12 AM (3173 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:23:42 PM (3235 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Wendi See/SC
8/31/2007 6:51:57 PM (3060 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:37:51 AM (3139 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 1:32:54 PM (3056 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/1/2007 8:18:32 AM (3224 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/1/2007 11:09:20 AM (3105 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 12:13:42 PM (3159 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 2:33:56 PM (3221 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Loretta Reed/MD
9/2/2007 5:14:54 PM (3175 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/2/2007 6:27:34 PM (3083 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - john franz/NJ
9/4/2007 3:39:08 PM (3119 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/3/2007 9:11:12 AM (3162 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/3/2007 11:43:09 AM (3114 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 2:24:28 PM (3018 views)
Re: Possible Subprime Relief - Scott Perry/PA
9/4/2007 9:19:45 PM (3041 views)

Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 7:06:09 PM (2313 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Robert Franco/OH
8/31/2007 1:26:14 PM (3177 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:17:33 PM (3055 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/1/2007 6:17:16 PM (3026 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/2/2007 5:02:42 PM (3014 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:38 AM (3002 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - Chet Mazur/CA
9/4/2007 10:49:39 AM (2877 views)
Re: Question #2 IP Address - J Nisonger/CA
9/4/2007 11:47:45 PM (2916 views)

Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
8/30/2007 6:59:14 PM (2375 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - John Povejsil/MN
8/31/2007 12:12:06 PM (3199 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
8/31/2007 12:12:28 PM (3236 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - J Nisonger/CA
9/1/2007 4:34:41 PM (2975 views)
Re: Question #1 Cell phones - Kurt deVries/FL
9/4/2007 1:07:46 PM (3108 views)

Kevin's Back! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:55:56 PM (2434 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 3:48:18 PM (3145 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Scott Perry/PA
8/30/2007 5:01:34 PM (3192 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 5:51:44 PM (3178 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kurt deVries/FL
8/31/2007 1:16:08 PM (3251 views)
Re: Kevin's Back! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/31/2007 5:38:48 PM (3070 views)


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