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Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
8/27/2007 7:50:58 PM (2833 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
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Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Deadbeats - Dan Zook/NY
8/29/2007 9:15:52 AM (3054 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
8/27/2007 7:56:52 PM (3131 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Things Fdup/CA
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Re: Deadbeats - Laurie Puckett/TN
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Re: Deadbeats - Greg/VA
9/4/2007 6:25:03 PM (2857 views)
Re: Deadbeats - george Hubka/MI
9/4/2007 6:32:04 PM (2872 views)
Re: Deadbeats - SandyB/NY
9/5/2007 4:34:04 PM (2882 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/5/2007 7:04:13 PM (2880 views)
Re: Deadbeats - Joseph Weaver/VA
9/6/2007 7:41:08 PM (2750 views)

How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Jacqueline Costa/RI
8/27/2007 5:10:55 PM (2592 views)
Re: How Crazy is Rhode Island? - Rob  Robinson/PA
8/28/2007 9:14:49 AM (3005 views)

Ohio Title Company Bankrupt - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 12:45:34 PM (2125 views)

Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 10:58:38 AM (2563 views)
Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Victoria Ledford/TN
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Re: Title Jobs Slashed in Pittsburgh - Robert Franco/OH
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Great Vacation! - Deborah Manion/VA
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Please Pray - Scott Perry/PA
8/26/2007 8:08:44 PM (2471 views)
Amen and get better soon. - Jay Duncan/MO
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Re: Please Pray - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: Please Pray - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: Please Pray - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Please Pray - J.T. Shoemaker/NY
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Re: Please Pray - Anita Backlund/MN
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Re: Please Pray - Sandra Morton/KS
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Attorney in my thoughts and prayers - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
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Re: Please Pray - Joseph Weaver/VA
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Re: Please Pray - Robert Franco/OH
8/27/2007 3:14:32 PM (3051 views)
Re: Please Pray - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/27/2007 7:15:56 PM (3083 views)
Re: Please Pray - Lori Cassidy/CT
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Re: Please Pray - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/28/2007 10:12:05 AM (3189 views)

What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Jay Duncan/MO
8/24/2007 11:06:47 PM (3760 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:36:35 AM (3081 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/29/2007 1:26:58 PM (2894 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:29:12 PM (2994 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Scott Perry/PA
8/29/2007 9:29:52 PM (2987 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:25:17 PM (3001 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 8:41:10 PM (3010 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 9:53:18 AM (3039 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 10:46:20 AM (3016 views)

 

Katrina,

I have read your posts on this thread. It would appear that your argument fails to focus on the big picture. There are a number of players in the closing process...buyer...seller...mortgagee...title insurer...appraiser...abstractor. Each has a vital purpose in the closing process.


While the mortgagee may rely on the appraisal to determine issues such as the debt to equity ratio and will undoubtedly hedge its bet with title insurance...there is a difference between the appraised value of the property and marketable title. If the title to the property is heavily encumbered the appraisal is meaningless. The appraisal represents a best case scenario. The question remains as to whether there is sufficient equity in the property to back up the appraisal. The under appreciated roll that the abstractor plays determines whether the marketable title value and the appraisal coincide.

I had an amusing situation two weeks ago when a title insurance company called me about a closing I had performed a year and a half earlier. I did not do the title search on the property. Apparently the mortgagor applied for a reverse mortgage on the property and subsequently died. The mortgagee wanted title to the mortgaged property only to find that the mortgagor never held title to the property. He held only a life use of the property. Apparently someone screwed up. Either the abstractor failed to verify the chain of title...seems unlikely that an abstractor would miss something that basic...or the title insurance agent failed to pick up on the title when he issued the title insurance commitment...or the lender screwed up the closing docs. As usual the lender is protected seven ways to Sunday through the title insurance, and the title insurer is on the hook for the face value of the policy. The title insurer did not seem to think that the abstractor was at fault, but rather one of the other players.

I would also take issue with your above statement that the lender always has a first place priority. It depends on what lien or mortgage is being foreclosed. When one acquires a property through foreclosure sale or tax lien certificates...he is insane if he fails to perform a title search to discover the state of title. If the foreclosure is of a second mortgage...the buyer takes subject to the first mortgage which has priority. In Connecticut real estate taxes have an automatic priority over mortgages and liens, and would have to be paid notwithstanding the foreclosing financial institution's priority. There are also the issues of inchoate liens such as mechanic's liens which may not be recorded until 90 days (Connecticut rule) following completion of work, and thus may not show up on the record in a timely manner. The unrecorded mechanic's lien may predate the recording of the foreclosing entities lien/mortgage, but if recorded in a timely manner may predate and relate back to a date earlier than the priority of the foreclosing entity.

In Connecticut the Plaintiff in a foreclosure action is required to perform a title search to determine the encumbrances on the property. Those encumbrances that predate the priority of of the foreclosing entity are simply identified in the complaint as prior encumbrances. Those that are subsequent to the Plaintiff's priority are identified in the complaint as junior encumbrances, and are named as defendants in the foreclosure action.

In summary, the objective is to have the appraised value and marketable title value coincide for a property. If they do not someone...buyer...mortgagee or title insurer is going to be rather upset with the outcome. The seller could also be sued for breach of warranty. Without the abstractor's work marketable title can not be determined.

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Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Robert Franco/OH
8/30/2007 1:34:50 PM (4372 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:48:49 PM (3030 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Deborah Manion/VA
8/30/2007 2:15:25 PM (2833 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 2:17:28 PM (2976 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Wendi See/SC
8/30/2007 11:33:00 AM (3034 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Loretta Reed/MD
8/30/2007 9:43:50 PM (2970 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - kristin sandman/IN
8/30/2007 10:49:32 PM (2934 views)
Should say "And Wendi" not Any Wendi, sorry n/m - Loretta Reed/MD
8/31/2007 9:37:07 AM (2912 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - george Hubka/MI
9/1/2007 9:49:36 PM (2817 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Norean /GA
9/1/2007 10:51:18 AM (2883 views)
Re: What do you know?!?! Somebody else knows we exist!!! - Lisa Ramsey/TX
9/4/2007 12:47:50 PM (2888 views)

E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/24/2007 3:32:41 PM (2636 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Loretta Reed/MD
8/24/2007 4:38:49 PM (3239 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:20:56 AM (3062 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/28/2007 7:04:38 PM (3055 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Katrina Harris/GA
8/29/2007 11:18:24 AM (3026 views)
Re: E & O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
8/29/2007 2:33:32 PM (2991 views)

GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/24/2007 1:38:41 PM (2533 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/26/2007 9:30:10 AM (3129 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Alix Ott/MI
8/27/2007 11:57:03 AM (3174 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - clay doss/MO
8/28/2007 12:30:09 AM (3082 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:12:34 PM (3126 views)
Re: GDocs - power in numbers - Kevin Ahern/CT
8/30/2007 1:47:31 PM (3052 views)

Title Stream paid - Dan Zook/NY
8/24/2007 9:09:46 AM (1976 views)

Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jay Duncan/MO
8/22/2007 5:57:51 PM (3839 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - George Booth/OH
8/23/2007 9:05:12 AM (2962 views)
Re: Mortgage Industry Job Cuts Surpass 38,000 - Jason Sheppard/PA
8/27/2007 11:17:46 AM (2999 views)

India warning - NoName/CA
8/22/2007 3:34:40 PM (2563 views)
Re: India warning - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/24/2007 3:51:56 AM (3221 views)

Home Owners Associations. - Nikky/FL
8/22/2007 12:42:35 PM (2338 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Wendi See/SC
8/22/2007 1:07:41 PM (3167 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - Patrick Scott/IL
8/22/2007 1:35:23 PM (3428 views)
Re: Home Owners Associations. - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
8/22/2007 5:59:42 PM (3273 views)

Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Marc Cohen/MI
8/21/2007 4:59:19 PM (2527 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Dan Zook/NY
8/22/2007 8:21:47 AM (3377 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Alix Ott/MI
8/23/2007 6:44:28 PM (3267 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - Lori Cassidy/CT
8/27/2007 8:55:23 PM (3413 views)
Re: Pacific Corporate & Title Services - george Hubka/MI
8/28/2007 4:16:34 PM (3344 views)

Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Jennifer  Porter/FL
8/21/2007 2:19:24 PM (2829 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - Michele  Peele/NC
8/24/2007 5:17:38 PM (3403 views)
Re: Northwest Title & Escrow/ pmt - ELAINA MAUSER/DE
8/27/2007 12:49:25 PM (3216 views)


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