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What would you include? - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/21/2007 8:50:19 AM (2829 views)
Re: What would you include? - Deborah Manion/VA
9/21/2007 10:15:23 AM (3204 views)
Re: What would you include? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:37:29 PM (3375 views)
Re: What would you include? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2007 7:11:26 PM (5218 views)
Re: What would you include? - Dennis D/NY
9/23/2007 6:07:17 PM (3350 views)
Re: What would you include? - Ardel Richter/AR
10/1/2007 8:58:13 PM (3221 views)

Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (2973 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (3338 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (3314 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (3383 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (3266 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (3455 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (3184 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (3314 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (3236 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (3410 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (3571 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (3216 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (3520 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (3469 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (3421 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (3437 views)

Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (3042 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (3372 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (3312 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (3254 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (3225 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (3229 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (3220 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (3317 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (3377 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (3413 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (3410 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (3327 views)
I am so glad to see this kind of debate here that I almost wish I wasn't going fishing so I could join in!  I hope this gets continued at the top of the page!  Rob, it was great of you to drop in and I hope you will stick around to keep the conversation going. 

You pose a very good point in that we all have to tighten up our belts.  Jay answered you exquisitely.  The abstractors have been acceding to vendor managers' requests for fee reductions for years.  The downward trend in abstractor fees could not have been realized if not for the abstractors' finding more efficiencies in order to continue relationships with their source of work:  The customer.

There will come a point, however, and I think that point is near, when the most competent abstractors will seek more lucrative avenues of income.  Love of ones occupation does not feed the family.  So, here's my prediction:

The absence of competent abstractors, who are still necessary, and will be for some time to come, will bring with it an upward pressure on prices for abstracting service.  Supply and demand rarely fails to correct any market unless government gets involved.  Prices will continue to rise as more abstractors leave the field.  So, much of the efficiency achieved with on-line searching and outsourcing will be lost to a higher per-unit cost for the work that cannot be completed with more efficient means.

Vendor managers will seek less expensive, more efficient, means in an effort to replace the local abstractor.  They will find that they have killed the golden goose:  The local abstractor who was the efficiency that allowed the title companies to cover regions, or to provide coast-to-coast service, in the first place.

On-line records and adequate title plants for all occasions are a distant pipedream.  I think the vendor managers could give a little nudge to their sales forces to educated their customers as to the value of the service they are providing.  Vendor managers certainly provide a necessary service and might want to start thinking about selling that value, rather than cheap prices.  They are dealing with enormous lending institutions who are looking at the aggregate expense, not the per-unit cost that is by far outweighed by the profit realized by the per-unit loan income

Or, I could be wrong.  -Pat

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (3398 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (3502 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (3360 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (3330 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (3270 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (3171 views)




Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (3106 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (3462 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (3405 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (3320 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (3372 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (3563 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2979 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (3687 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2885 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (3652 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (3790 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (3262 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (3168 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (3258 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (3246 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (3341 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (3105 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (3342 views)

the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2794 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (5186 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (3496 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (2988 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (3883 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/18/2007 12:43:05 AM (3884 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/19/2007 10:38:52 AM (3552 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/19/2007 4:03:39 PM (3570 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
9/19/2007 9:14:57 PM (3581 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (3567 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (3745 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (3760 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/21/2007 12:10:16 AM (3619 views)

Central Lending Services - Jon Lax/RI
9/17/2007 5:05:26 PM (2424 views)

Jessica Talley - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
9/17/2007 2:13:56 PM (2986 views)
Re: Jessica Talley - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/17/2007 8:10:20 PM (3814 views)

Tax assessments in PA - Nathan Miller/KY
9/17/2007 11:12:38 AM (2710 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 12:29:18 PM (3448 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2007 12:40:55 PM (3365 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Christine Sheeler/PA
9/17/2007 2:59:47 PM (3515 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 3:39:25 PM (3451 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/17/2007 5:08:37 PM (3277 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Michele Jorgensen/TX
9/24/2007 10:50:43 AM (3687 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/24/2007 5:24:00 PM (3494 views)

Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 9:37:06 PM (2678 views)
Re: Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - David Robertson/VA
9/25/2007 5:34:42 PM (3362 views)

IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KATHY NEWTON/NC
9/16/2007 7:34:38 PM (2630 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 7:53:28 PM (3510 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/17/2007 6:37:31 AM (3359 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Ronald Brasier/MI
9/19/2007 9:26:47 AM (3439 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
9/24/2007 7:42:55 AM (5603 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Timothy Gatewood/TN
9/26/2007 11:16:49 AM (5076 views)


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