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Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 1:42:05 PM (3060 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 5:27:11 PM (3615 views)
Re: Datatrace - Julie Jasiunas/WI
9/24/2007 5:41:54 PM (3199 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/24/2007 6:17:27 PM (3168 views)
Re: Datatrace - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 7:47:46 PM (3230 views)
Re: Datatrace - KS/IN
9/24/2007 8:04:36 PM (3395 views)
Re: Datatrace - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/24/2007 10:40:11 PM (3489 views)
Re: Datatrace - Richard Palen/FL
9/26/2007 1:00:29 PM (3253 views)
Re: Datatrace - Seth Levine/MD
9/27/2007 2:45:46 PM (3132 views)
Re: Datatrace - Kim Hawkins/MI
10/1/2007 6:51:37 PM (3529 views)
Re: Datatrace - Robert Franco/OH
10/1/2007 8:05:32 PM (3637 views)

So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:10:32 PM (3266 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/24/2007 1:20:56 PM (3609 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:23:48 PM (3624 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/24/2007 5:35:24 PM (3344 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Robert Breakell/CT
9/27/2007 8:34:05 AM (3309 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - Wanda Steudel/OH
9/27/2007 10:26:55 AM (3460 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - elizabeth reddy/FL
10/2/2007 9:34:38 AM (3415 views)
Re: So ATM is Now Servicelink? - george Hubka/MI
10/29/2007 8:18:20 AM (3127 views)

Lost another one, Nationstar - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/24/2007 12:52:13 PM (3393 views)

Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/21/2007 11:03:24 PM (2890 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:33:50 PM (3322 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - Jon Lax/RI
9/24/2007 8:42:53 AM (3272 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - DS/NC
9/24/2007 1:49:35 PM (3092 views)
Re: Equifax fee redux ???? - george Hubka/MI
9/25/2007 2:45:30 AM (3157 views)

TITLE PLANT - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/21/2007 10:33:43 AM (2990 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/21/2007 10:54:11 AM (3518 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - JOSEPH MARTINEZ/NM
9/24/2007 12:23:56 PM (3246 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Kathy Taylor/CO
9/24/2007 10:56:09 PM (3178 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Faith Burns/MD
9/25/2007 12:08:28 PM (2965 views)
Re: TITLE PLANT - Ron McPherson/IA
9/29/2007 1:16:17 AM (3216 views)




What would you include? - Amy Tatusko/VA
9/21/2007 8:50:19 AM (2774 views)
Re: What would you include? - Deborah Manion/VA
9/21/2007 10:15:23 AM (3009 views)
Re: What would you include? - David Chisolm/MS
9/21/2007 11:37:29 PM (3159 views)
Re: What would you include? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2007 7:11:26 PM (4985 views)
Re: What would you include? - Dennis D/NY
9/23/2007 6:07:17 PM (3134 views)
Re: What would you include? - Ardel Richter/AR
10/1/2007 8:58:13 PM (3025 views)

Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (2905 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (3087 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (3086 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (3159 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (3024 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (3180 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (3084 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (3070 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (2983 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (3183 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (3307 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (3001 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (3265 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (3230 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (3190 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (3206 views)

Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (2969 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (3115 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (3062 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (3031 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (3001 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (3009 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (2942 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (3074 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (3131 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (3173 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (3166 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (3081 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (3150 views)

Hey Steve,

    nice idea about charging an amount suitable to the size of the loan (that is what you meant, right?).  The only draw back I see is that abstractors would only get paid IF the loan closed.  Ouch. 
     I wish that we would get paid the appropriate amount for a search vs the risk, but with some abstractors willing to complete current owner searches for $15 to $20 and full searches for $40 it is difficult to get the desired fee.  
     The second difficulty is determining when or if the loan closed to be sure that the abstractor got paid.  This would involve numerous updates of the recorder's office for the recorded mortgage.
     I believe a more suitable pricing structure might be the time spent on the search.  If it took an hour to complete the search we should be paid more than if the same current owner search only took 15 minutes because they bought it 2 months ago.  Something with full searches, charge by the hour.  It is already done with most commercial searches why not residential.  Of course the client would want checks and balances (totally understandable), they should not be charged for 3 hours of work if the borrower just bought the property 3 months ago.  Most professions work this way, i.e. attorneys, doctors, contractors, almost any other service and/or professional industry does.  Will this be an almost impossible feat to accomplish, probably. 
      To make this so and to survive Title companies really need to charge for their service regardless of the loan closing or not.  They must pay for the search and then they complete the commitment which takes time and money as well.  They should charge a cancellation fee enough to cover their costs. 
     The LO should only order title when all other requirements are fulfilled and they know the loan will close.  Judgments and Federal and State Tax Liens already show on most credit reports, so they already have an idea if the loan is going to make it through the underwriter.  This will require the LO to be educated or become educated, instead of just anyone walking off the street and 10 minutes later they are a LO.
     A lot of what is going on in the title industry is self-inflicted by the title companies and the abstractors.  I know Robert wrote an article or post entitled "Are we our on worst enemy" or something very similar.  The title companies by bowing to the demands of the lenders, who know nothing about title, and the abstractors by lowering their prices and in turn their professionalism by reducing themselves to a necessary evil.
     It has been pointed out be others before, if we not consider ourselves professionals then who will?

jmho
Jay

 

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (3252 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (3133 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (3083 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (3033 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (3115 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (3034 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (3217 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (3159 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (3083 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (3111 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (3311 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2925 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (3436 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2795 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (3412 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (3500 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (2918 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (3021 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (3006 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (3092 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (2872 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (3099 views)

the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2708 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (4923 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (3247 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (2927 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (3668 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
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Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
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Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (3357 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (3529 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (3534 views)
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