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Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (2695 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (2611 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (2616 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (2520 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (2517 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (2495 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (2453 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (2608 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (2688 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (2735 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (2707 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (2649 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (2720 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (2795 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (2664 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (2655 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (2604 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (2941 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (2817 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (2724 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (2658 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (2579 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (2594 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (2820 views)

Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2752 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (2954 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2609 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (2907 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (3023 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (2522 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (2458 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (2556 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (2522 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (2579 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (2382 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (2608 views)




the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2516 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (4373 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (2765 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (2731 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (3177 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/18/2007 12:43:05 AM (3232 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/19/2007 10:38:52 AM (2853 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/19/2007 4:03:39 PM (2893 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
9/19/2007 9:14:57 PM (2845 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (2842 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (3042 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (3101 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/21/2007 12:10:16 AM (2880 views)

Central Lending Services - Jon Lax/RI
9/17/2007 5:05:26 PM (2208 views)

Jessica Talley - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
9/17/2007 2:13:56 PM (2738 views)
Re: Jessica Talley - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/17/2007 8:10:20 PM (3132 views)

Tax assessments in PA - Nathan Miller/KY
9/17/2007 11:12:38 AM (2460 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 12:29:18 PM (2701 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2007 12:40:55 PM (2683 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Christine Sheeler/PA
9/17/2007 2:59:47 PM (2771 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 3:39:25 PM (2733 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/17/2007 5:08:37 PM (2629 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Michele Jorgensen/TX
9/24/2007 10:50:43 AM (2993 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/24/2007 5:24:00 PM (2780 views)

Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 9:37:06 PM (2420 views)
Re: Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - David Robertson/VA
9/25/2007 5:34:42 PM (2655 views)

IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KATHY NEWTON/NC
9/16/2007 7:34:38 PM (2383 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 7:53:28 PM (2738 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/17/2007 6:37:31 AM (2621 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Ronald Brasier/MI
9/19/2007 9:26:47 AM (2730 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
9/24/2007 7:42:55 AM (4797 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Timothy Gatewood/TN
9/26/2007 11:16:49 AM (4318 views)
As a Notary Signing Agent, I make my living in the gray area of being both an impartial witness AND a signing agent for the title company/lender. I have long since decided to "reconcile" this by informing the borrowers that I am there to do 2 things -- and to explain briefly what a Notary does and what a Signing Agent does. This is part of my introductory spiel that I use to move us from chit-chat into the actual signing process and it also gives me the chance to let them know that I am not an attorney and cannot give legal advice or legal opinions, so they should make use of their 3 day right-to-cancel to consult an attorney if they have any legal questions about the transaction.

This is not that different from how I initially became a Notary Public back in the 90s -- I was a legal secretary and my attorney-boss wanted me to be able to notarize docs where he was one of the signers. All the paralegals and most of the legal secretaries at that firm were notaries (as were all but a few of the attorneys) and you could argue that none of us were totally disinterested parties as the firm always represented one side or the other in disputes. However, here in Tennessee, the Legislature has at least partially acknowledged this gray area by specifically stating that additional fees can be charged by the notary if they did additional work on the matter before them - such as drafting the legal document or providing stenographical or other related services.

So, I have always taken the line that what counts is whether I have a direct interest in the transaction. If it does not matter financially or otherwise to me personally, I am able to make the distinction and be impartial. If my only involvement is an employee of one side and I will be paid the same whether the transaction goes through or not, I am disinterested. (This is also reflected in my fees as an NSA -- once I arrive at the home, I expect to be paid the same for a completed signing as for one that crashes and burns, unless I did something to cause it to crash.)

However, I would NEVER notarize for a relative. Most states I have heard about assume that you have a vested interest in any transactions that your relatives make. Whatever your parents, siblings, kids, grandparents, grandkids, or other close relatives do could affect your own finances either now or in the near future, so it is not unreasonable to steer clear of any appearance of being an interested party by having your relatives get their docs notarized by someone outside the family.


Of course, all of this is based on the practise and my understanding of the laws and regs here in Tennessee. Your state may vary from that (and please do not assume that the National Notary Association or any other "national" group can tell you what your state has in the way of laws and regs -- you need to consult an attorney in your state for this legal advice and legal opinions).

-- Tim Gatewood
Traveling Notary Public, Certified Notary Signing Agent & Field Inspector
Notary Memphis
http://notarymemphis.com


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Is your title shop using a trusted notary? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/14/2007 4:49:41 PM (4169 views)
Re: Is your title shop using a trusted notary? - Ron McPherson/IA
9/14/2007 11:02:46 PM (2456 views)

Advantage Equity, Pennsylvania - Wendi See/SC
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Express Financial Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Express Financial Services - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Express Financial Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Express Financial Services - Susan Parker/TN
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Re: Express Financial Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Express Financial Services - Jason Sheppard/PA
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