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Selling company/non-payment/company names - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:56:17 PM (2695 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 6:09:51 PM (2524 views)
Re: Selling company/non-payment/company names - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 8:18:46 PM (2529 views)
Parkway - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 9:02:45 PM (2622 views)
great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 8:57:33 PM (2458 views)
Re: great stuff Kevin, thanks very much - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/21/2007 8:27:42 AM (2615 views)

Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 10:47:28 AM (2809 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/20/2007 12:28:42 PM (2514 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Jay Duncan/MO
9/20/2007 1:25:02 PM (2434 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Scott Perry/PA
9/21/2007 8:15:50 PM (2632 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 7:09:04 AM (2713 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Michele Horger/MI
9/21/2007 4:35:52 PM (2481 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 8:53:06 AM (2715 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:18:04 AM (2672 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Loretta Reed/MD
9/22/2007 9:38:50 AM (2650 views)
Re: Express Finanacial Article - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/22/2007 9:51:21 AM (2664 views)

Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/19/2007 5:54:03 PM (2675 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 7:47:50 PM (2534 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:52:14 PM (2538 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 8:57:16 PM (2452 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - David Chisolm/MS
9/19/2007 9:03:25 PM (2445 views)
To anger even more - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
9/20/2007 8:33:09 AM (2422 views)
very good points - Mike/KS
9/20/2007 5:58:22 PM (2372 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Rob  Robinson/PA
9/25/2007 1:46:05 PM (2531 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/25/2007 4:02:39 PM (2616 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/25/2007 6:15:31 PM (2652 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/25/2007 8:14:45 PM (2631 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Patrick Scott/IL
9/25/2007 11:53:42 PM (2570 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 1:42:16 PM (2635 views)

Hey Steve,

    nice idea about charging an amount suitable to the size of the loan (that is what you meant, right?).  The only draw back I see is that abstractors would only get paid IF the loan closed.  Ouch. 
     I wish that we would get paid the appropriate amount for a search vs the risk, but with some abstractors willing to complete current owner searches for $15 to $20 and full searches for $40 it is difficult to get the desired fee.  
     The second difficulty is determining when or if the loan closed to be sure that the abstractor got paid.  This would involve numerous updates of the recorder's office for the recorded mortgage.
     I believe a more suitable pricing structure might be the time spent on the search.  If it took an hour to complete the search we should be paid more than if the same current owner search only took 15 minutes because they bought it 2 months ago.  Something with full searches, charge by the hour.  It is already done with most commercial searches why not residential.  Of course the client would want checks and balances (totally understandable), they should not be charged for 3 hours of work if the borrower just bought the property 3 months ago.  Most professions work this way, i.e. attorneys, doctors, contractors, almost any other service and/or professional industry does.  Will this be an almost impossible feat to accomplish, probably. 
      To make this so and to survive Title companies really need to charge for their service regardless of the loan closing or not.  They must pay for the search and then they complete the commitment which takes time and money as well.  They should charge a cancellation fee enough to cover their costs. 
     The LO should only order title when all other requirements are fulfilled and they know the loan will close.  Judgments and Federal and State Tax Liens already show on most credit reports, so they already have an idea if the loan is going to make it through the underwriter.  This will require the LO to be educated or become educated, instead of just anyone walking off the street and 10 minutes later they are a LO.
     A lot of what is going on in the title industry is self-inflicted by the title companies and the abstractors.  I know Robert wrote an article or post entitled "Are we our on worst enemy" or something very similar.  The title companies by bowing to the demands of the lenders, who know nothing about title, and the abstractors by lowering their prices and in turn their professionalism by reducing themselves to a necessary evil.
     It has been pointed out be others before, if we not consider ourselves professionals then who will?

jmho
Jay

 

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Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:17:46 PM (2718 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/26/2007 4:28:38 PM (2585 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/26/2007 4:56:38 PM (2575 views)
Re: Basically it boils down to this... - Jay Duncan/MO
9/30/2007 10:31:26 PM (2525 views)

Counselor's Title/Lombard,Il - Barbara Bennett/IN
9/19/2007 5:26:28 PM (2913 views)

Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Loretta Reed/MD
9/19/2007 5:07:12 PM (2782 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 5:22:07 PM (2652 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/19/2007 9:05:47 PM (2585 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Shannon Blatt/VA
9/20/2007 2:17:54 PM (2512 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - STEVE MEINECKE/VA
9/20/2007 3:10:17 PM (2518 views)
Re: Financial Dimension...Reduction of fees - Rick Wilkinson/TN
9/26/2007 11:59:20 AM (2737 views)




Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Scott Perry/PA
9/19/2007 4:16:56 PM (2730 views)
Re: Fidelity National Financial - Irving, TX - Angela Swafford/FL
9/24/2007 7:43:12 AM (2854 views)

Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:31:40 AM (2581 views)
Re: Email from India - Kim Cowles/WI
9/18/2007 8:08:11 AM (2782 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 8:50:24 AM (2907 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 12:11:11 PM (2405 views)
Re: Email from India - Jay Duncan/MO
9/18/2007 1:12:41 PM (2342 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 1:27:27 PM (2415 views)
Re: Email from India - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:51:55 AM (2398 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 5:14:01 PM (2461 views)
Re: Email from India - Scott Perry/PA
9/18/2007 6:43:38 PM (2263 views)
Re: Email from India - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/18/2007 6:51:47 PM (2493 views)

the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:57:11 AM (2491 views)
Re: the N symbol - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2007 9:06:46 AM (4233 views)
Re: the N symbol - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 9:39:34 AM (2639 views)

ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/17/2007 11:20:32 PM (2705 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
9/18/2007 12:31:30 AM (3076 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/18/2007 12:43:05 AM (3128 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Russ Frye/GA
9/19/2007 10:38:52 AM (2745 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/19/2007 4:03:39 PM (2785 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Carol Walker/AZ
9/19/2007 9:14:57 PM (2735 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Lisa/MD
9/20/2007 9:34:59 AM (2727 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/20/2007 8:18:11 PM (2928 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - Janis Talbot/SC
9/24/2007 6:32:28 AM (2995 views)
Re: ESS Solutions, LLC - J Nisonger/CA
9/21/2007 12:10:16 AM (2773 views)

Central Lending Services - Jon Lax/RI
9/17/2007 5:05:26 PM (2183 views)

Jessica Talley - SHARON YAHRAES/ID
9/17/2007 2:13:56 PM (2711 views)
Re: Jessica Talley - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/17/2007 8:10:20 PM (3037 views)

Tax assessments in PA - Nathan Miller/KY
9/17/2007 11:12:38 AM (2440 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 12:29:18 PM (2610 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2007 12:40:55 PM (2586 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Christine Sheeler/PA
9/17/2007 2:59:47 PM (2675 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
9/17/2007 3:39:25 PM (2631 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/17/2007 5:08:37 PM (2526 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Michele Jorgensen/TX
9/24/2007 10:50:43 AM (2895 views)
Re: Tax assessments in PA - Scott Perry/PA
9/24/2007 5:24:00 PM (2683 views)

Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 9:37:06 PM (2399 views)
Re: Separation of Banks, Mortgage Companies and Title Companies - David Robertson/VA
9/25/2007 5:34:42 PM (2562 views)

IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KATHY NEWTON/NC
9/16/2007 7:34:38 PM (2365 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/16/2007 7:53:28 PM (2654 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/17/2007 6:37:31 AM (2532 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Ronald Brasier/MI
9/19/2007 9:26:47 AM (2639 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
9/24/2007 7:42:55 AM (4699 views)
Re: IS WHAT THIS NOTARY DID LEGAL?? - Timothy Gatewood/TN
9/26/2007 11:16:49 AM (4218 views)

Is your title shop using a trusted notary? - Jay Duncan/MO
9/14/2007 4:49:41 PM (4136 views)
Re: Is your title shop using a trusted notary? - Ron McPherson/IA
9/14/2007 11:02:46 PM (2364 views)


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