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Lighthouse? - Dan Zook/NY
2/19/2008 10:57:00 AM (2749 views)

Quantum Abstract/NY - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
2/17/2008 12:54:21 PM (2885 views)

No pay from Jacqueline Battle - mollie cardell/SC
2/15/2008 3:32:02 PM (3409 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - Wendi See/SC
2/16/2008 11:46:15 AM (4899 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:13:00 PM (4584 views)

Input on Paridise Settlement - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/15/2008 10:27:02 AM (3319 views)
Re: Input on Paridise Settlement - James Mohrmann/VA
2/19/2008 10:41:49 AM (4624 views)

Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/13/2008 2:52:52 PM (3725 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 4:24:29 PM (4724 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2008 1:19:16 PM (4762 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Carol Smith-Baker/MD
2/20/2008 11:38:37 AM (5001 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/19/2008 10:18:51 AM (4638 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/19/2008 11:57:05 AM (4569 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - David Lederman/NY
2/19/2008 1:53:41 PM (4897 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/19/2008 11:53:42 PM (4787 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:21:05 AM (4915 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Phil McLean/CO
2/19/2008 5:26:48 PM (4796 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Scott Perry/PA
2/19/2008 8:11:27 PM (4808 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/20/2008 7:58:18 AM (4879 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
2/20/2008 9:32:36 AM (5021 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - President President/NY
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:18:47 AM (4795 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/26/2008 12:56:22 PM (4768 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services update - Phil McLean/CO
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SAFEGUARD TITLE - john franz/NJ
2/13/2008 2:04:59 PM (6779 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - thomas reale/NY
2/19/2008 5:23:42 PM (5666 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - Mark Russomanno/NJ
3/3/2008 6:34:37 PM (5101 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/4/2008 11:31:14 AM (4939 views)

searchlight abstract - denise davenport/NY
2/12/2008 3:13:33 PM (3701 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/12/2008 3:30:33 PM (4753 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Natalie Collier/NY
2/12/2008 8:18:17 PM (4849 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - /NY
2/15/2008 10:13:05 AM (4667 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/15/2008 10:15:39 AM (4800 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 10:31:38 AM (4643 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 11:20:45 AM (4571 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 4:09:08 PM (4488 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:24:36 PM (4715 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 12:35:32 AM (4521 views)

I don't understand why anyone who calls themselves an abstractor can't walk over to a Justice Court or Small Claims Court and fill out the forms, pay the fees, get a trial date and present the case themselves. As a general rule the creditor can file the suit without hiring an attorney in a small claims court. You might run into a jurisdictional problem with an out of state company, but that can be over come. If you debtor is a corporation look to the corporation's home state and you can obtain the registered agent for service of process and have the summons filed and deiivered to that agent. If the owner is an individual you can use the business address for service.

The chance of these people coming to court are small and you can present your evidence (orders, invoices, affidavits, and work product, to the court and move for a default judgment. And in most cases the judge with give you that default judgment. Remember that these courts are generally not courts of record so an automatic appeal will granted if moved for by the judgment debtor. But what do you think the chance of that is when they did not even bother to come to court?

Once that appeal time expires, which differs from state to state, the judgment will be enrolled. You all know about judgments.

After the judgment is enrolled, if the judgment debtor resides or does business in your state, in most states you can call that judgment debtor back to the court for a judgment debtor exam. Most people and businesses don't want that. Also if they are within the courts jurisdiction and they fail to show for the examination the court can hold the judgment debtor in contempt of court and the penalties can be severe,

What do you have to lose other than a few hours work time, but you gain a world of self confidence and you have made a statement to the non payer, to paraphrase the movie Network, "That I'm made as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore."

These guys can't make a dime without the abstractor. We should all remember that.

One other thing that judgment allows you to do is to go back behind your work and determine who the vendor management companies client was; and then send a certified copy pf the judgment to those clients. I would advise the vendor management that that is your intention first because you may get paid and the vendor management company has to have income in order to pay you.

Remember these are general rules., but each and everyone of you has the knowledge and ability to read you state code books to get a line on your state's rules.

Best wishes. And listen to Kevin. He is right on about having the client post the fee and payment terms on the order. A signature of an officer of a corporation. or LLC, or sole proprietor is also a smart thing to require. It's hard to deny any of that when you are in court. What are they gonna do, claim that they were or are NCM?


James Toney

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Re: searchlight abstract - Debra Janssen/NY
2/17/2008 8:51:59 PM (4749 views)

Best Rural Counties for Quality of Life - David Bloys/TX
2/12/2008 11:12:25 AM (3887 views)

ActiveRain - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
2/11/2008 10:50:12 AM (4190 views)

Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/11/2008 10:11:40 AM (3811 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/11/2008 4:53:17 PM (4783 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/19/2008 9:37:23 AM (4778 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Cate Jones/NH
2/19/2008 9:55:13 AM (4724 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:32:25 PM (4801 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/20/2008 12:01:55 PM (5056 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2008 9:28:07 PM (5028 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/25/2008 9:14:47 AM (4960 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/25/2008 9:28:08 AM (4877 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 4:15:41 PM (4830 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/25/2008 4:29:02 PM (4823 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 7:48:23 PM (5023 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/26/2008 9:02:23 AM (4965 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/26/2008 3:11:27 PM (4890 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
2/26/2008 8:58:59 PM (5118 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/27/2008 10:32:13 AM (4775 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
2/27/2008 4:22:31 PM (4752 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2008 7:16:49 PM (4961 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2008 7:43:35 PM (4960 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
2/25/2008 8:01:55 PM (4972 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2008 9:03:13 PM (4999 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/27/2008 9:31:11 AM (4845 views)
Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
2/27/2008 10:31:00 AM (4774 views)

How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/9/2008 12:16:55 PM (3142 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2008 2:09:44 PM (4465 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/9/2008 5:15:55 PM (4525 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/10/2008 7:58:03 PM (4163 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/10/2008 9:49:25 PM (4426 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
2/11/2008 11:45:16 AM (4262 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Janice/OH
2/14/2008 10:18:40 PM (4343 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2008 11:00:43 PM (4607 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
3/18/2008 5:35:13 PM (4543 views)

Texas Town For Sale - David Bloys/TX
2/8/2008 3:29:00 PM (4024 views)

Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/8/2008 2:48:37 PM (3901 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Laurie E/MD
2/10/2008 4:01:49 PM (4880 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - christine /MA
2/11/2008 6:52:49 PM (4865 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
2/13/2008 10:09:43 AM (4824 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:34:19 PM (4656 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
2/20/2008 4:29:25 PM (5033 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/21/2008 11:19:20 AM (4770 views)
Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Marian Littleton/VA
3/2/2008 8:46:27 PM (4932 views)

Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/7/2008 8:23:06 PM (3748 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/8/2008 12:06:02 PM (4959 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/9/2008 8:19:33 AM (4713 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/9/2008 8:38:16 AM (4650 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/9/2008 7:25:28 PM (4665 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Marcus Magee/NY
2/12/2008 10:51:05 AM (4497 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/12/2008 6:11:22 PM (4531 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Lynn Miller/PA
2/12/2008 7:28:04 PM (4396 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Nils Nelson/ME
2/12/2008 10:53:14 PM (4762 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/13/2008 7:28:25 AM (4502 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/13/2008 2:50:46 PM (4415 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 4:13:29 PM (4340 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/14/2008 6:41:03 AM (4480 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/15/2008 3:55:55 PM (4445 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:39:55 PM (4379 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 12:02:42 AM (4414 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 12:43:33 AM (4442 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 6:52:51 AM (4570 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 9:10:35 AM (4822 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
2/20/2008 4:49:12 PM (4632 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/20/2008 7:42:03 AM (4531 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
2/19/2008 9:19:57 AM (4342 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:41:45 PM (4310 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - ARTHUR LIPPMAN/MA
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/13/2008 2:45:35 PM (4334 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/13/2008 10:42:38 PM (4542 views)
Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/14/2008 6:42:14 AM (4391 views)

Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/7/2008 11:26:01 AM (3464 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Sheila Sten/PA
2/7/2008 2:29:57 PM (4696 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/8/2008 2:50:36 PM (4725 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jason Sheppard/PA
2/8/2008 2:53:49 PM (6373 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/11/2008 9:09:27 AM (4411 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/11/2008 4:57:01 PM (4353 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/12/2008 10:02:33 AM (4348 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/12/2008 10:00:13 AM (4244 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/12/2008 3:39:22 PM (4110 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
2/19/2008 9:51:24 AM (4458 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Chloe Niglio/PA
2/26/2008 3:22:58 PM (4823 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - Jean Allen/NC
2/26/2008 6:21:32 PM (4656 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - J Nisonger/CA
2/26/2008 6:22:36 PM (4716 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/26/2008 9:10:40 PM (4624 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - J Nisonger/CA
2/27/2008 2:35:03 AM (4570 views)
Re: Outstanding invoice - george Hubka/MI
2/27/2008 10:33:47 AM (4566 views)


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