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No pay from Jacqueline Battle - mollie cardell/SC
2/15/2008 3:32:02 PM (3219 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - Wendi See/SC
2/16/2008 11:46:15 AM (4197 views)
Re: No pay from Jacqueline Battle - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:13:00 PM (3839 views)

Input on Paridise Settlement - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/15/2008 10:27:02 AM (3106 views)
Re: Input on Paridise Settlement - James Mohrmann/VA
2/19/2008 10:41:49 AM (3914 views)

Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/13/2008 2:52:52 PM (3533 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 4:24:29 PM (4094 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Jay Duncan/MO
2/14/2008 1:19:16 PM (4119 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Carol Smith-Baker/MD
2/20/2008 11:38:37 AM (4326 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/19/2008 10:18:51 AM (3939 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/19/2008 11:57:05 AM (3871 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - David Lederman/NY
2/19/2008 1:53:41 PM (4193 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/19/2008 11:53:42 PM (4157 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:21:05 AM (4292 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Phil McLean/CO
2/19/2008 5:26:48 PM (4076 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Scott Perry/PA
2/19/2008 8:11:27 PM (4132 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Rob/NY
2/20/2008 7:58:18 AM (4220 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
2/20/2008 9:32:36 AM (4405 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - President President/NY
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Absolute Property Services - Wayne Schutt II/NY
2/22/2008 8:18:47 AM (4139 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services - Donna D'Amore/PA
2/26/2008 12:56:22 PM (4175 views)
Re: Absolute Property Services update - Phil McLean/CO
3/3/2008 4:03:28 PM (4195 views)

SAFEGUARD TITLE - john franz/NJ
2/13/2008 2:04:59 PM (6493 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - thomas reale/NY
2/19/2008 5:23:42 PM (4905 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - Mark Russomanno/NJ
3/3/2008 6:34:37 PM (4440 views)
Re: SAFEGUARD TITLE - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
3/4/2008 11:31:14 AM (4317 views)

searchlight abstract - denise davenport/NY
2/12/2008 3:13:33 PM (3492 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/12/2008 3:30:33 PM (4124 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Natalie Collier/NY
2/12/2008 8:18:17 PM (4199 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - /NY
2/15/2008 10:13:05 AM (4060 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/15/2008 10:15:39 AM (4144 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 10:31:38 AM (4000 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/13/2008 11:20:45 AM (3928 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/13/2008 4:09:08 PM (3855 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - george Hubka/MI
2/19/2008 10:24:36 PM (4021 views)
Re: searchlight abstract - James "Lin" Toney/MS
2/20/2008 12:35:32 AM (3873 views)

I don't understand why anyone who calls themselves an abstractor can't walk over to a Justice Court or Small Claims Court and fill out the forms, pay the fees, get a trial date and present the case themselves. As a general rule the creditor can file the suit without hiring an attorney in a small claims court. You might run into a jurisdictional problem with an out of state company, but that can be over come. If you debtor is a corporation look to the corporation's home state and you can obtain the registered agent for service of process and have the summons filed and deiivered to that agent. If the owner is an individual you can use the business address for service.

The chance of these people coming to court are small and you can present your evidence (orders, invoices, affidavits, and work product, to the court and move for a default judgment. And in most cases the judge with give you that default judgment. Remember that these courts are generally not courts of record so an automatic appeal will granted if moved for by the judgment debtor. But what do you think the chance of that is when they did not even bother to come to court?

Once that appeal time expires, which differs from state to state, the judgment will be enrolled. You all know about judgments.

After the judgment is enrolled, if the judgment debtor resides or does business in your state, in most states you can call that judgment debtor back to the court for a judgment debtor exam. Most people and businesses don't want that. Also if they are within the courts jurisdiction and they fail to show for the examination the court can hold the judgment debtor in contempt of court and the penalties can be severe,

What do you have to lose other than a few hours work time, but you gain a world of self confidence and you have made a statement to the non payer, to paraphrase the movie Network, "That I'm made as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore."

These guys can't make a dime without the abstractor. We should all remember that.

One other thing that judgment allows you to do is to go back behind your work and determine who the vendor management companies client was; and then send a certified copy pf the judgment to those clients. I would advise the vendor management that that is your intention first because you may get paid and the vendor management company has to have income in order to pay you.

Remember these are general rules., but each and everyone of you has the knowledge and ability to read you state code books to get a line on your state's rules.

Best wishes. And listen to Kevin. He is right on about having the client post the fee and payment terms on the order. A signature of an officer of a corporation. or LLC, or sole proprietor is also a smart thing to require. It's hard to deny any of that when you are in court. What are they gonna do, claim that they were or are NCM?


James Toney

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Re: searchlight abstract - Debra Janssen/NY
2/17/2008 8:51:59 PM (4072 views)


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Best Rural Counties for Quality of Life - David Bloys/TX
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ActiveRain - KELLY ROBERTSON/CA
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Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Donna D'Amore/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - Chloe Niglio/PA
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Re: Don't do work for The Bertrum Group! - george Hubka/MI
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How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/9/2008 12:16:55 PM (2923 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2008 2:09:44 PM (3819 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Constance Foye/VA
2/10/2008 7:58:03 PM (3509 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/10/2008 9:49:25 PM (3732 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
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Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Janice/OH
2/14/2008 10:18:40 PM (3668 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - Shannon Blatt/VA
2/25/2008 11:00:43 PM (3953 views)
Re: How to get County to comply with their own rules - William Pattison /CA
3/18/2008 5:35:13 PM (3888 views)

Texas Town For Sale - David Bloys/TX
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Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Laurie E/MD
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - christine /MA
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jack Johanson/PA
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Jason Sheppard/PA
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Re: Another Title Company Ceasing Pittsburgh Operation - Marian Littleton/VA
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Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Marcus Magee/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - Wayne Schutt II/NY
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Re: Absolute Title Revisited - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Outstanding invoice - Cate Jones/NH
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Looking for E and O - Joseph Aviles/NY
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