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First Merit nka The Closing Space - Helene /GA
4/24/2008 9:41:37 PM (5776 views)
Re: First Merit nka The Closing Space - Kurt deVries/FL
4/25/2008 10:47:13 AM (5623 views)
Re: First Merit nka The Closing Space - Pat/NY
4/25/2008 3:09:29 PM (5689 views)
Re: First Merit nka The Closing Space - Thomas Conrad/PA
4/28/2008 8:04:51 AM (5651 views)

TSS Abstract Express - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/24/2008 5:03:43 PM (9740 views)
Re: TSS Abstract Express - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 5:56:22 PM (6114 views)
Re: TSS Abstract Express - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/24/2008 6:58:16 PM (6092 views)
Re: TSS Abstract Express - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 8:58:51 PM (6032 views)
Re: TSS Abstract Express - Kurt deVries/FL
4/25/2008 10:43:41 AM (5956 views)
Re: TSS Abstract Express - Samson Ugorji/MD
4/28/2008 11:57:45 PM (5885 views)

Beware of Clear Source Title - Kurt deVries/FL
4/23/2008 1:25:37 PM (4360 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Robert Franco/OH
4/23/2008 2:57:08 PM (6252 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Kurt deVries/FL
4/23/2008 3:13:52 PM (6699 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Robert Franco/OH
4/23/2008 3:32:40 PM (6116 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/28/2008 11:09:34 AM (5757 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/24/2008 11:13:18 AM (5957 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Kurt deVries/FL
4/24/2008 12:02:37 PM (5922 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/24/2008 2:01:02 PM (6031 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - Kurt deVries/FL
4/25/2008 10:41:01 AM (5768 views)
Re: Beware of Clear Source Title - george Hubka/MI
4/25/2008 10:20:01 PM (5898 views)

Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Carla Curry/KY
4/22/2008 10:17:24 PM (4205 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Ron McPherson/IA
4/22/2008 10:23:57 PM (5735 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Glenda Hodge/TN
4/22/2008 11:27:56 PM (5724 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/23/2008 3:25:52 AM (5664 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Janis Talbot/SC
4/25/2008 7:36:43 AM (5515 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/25/2008 9:15:05 AM (8351 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/28/2008 11:19:09 AM (5566 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/23/2008 8:26:51 AM (5571 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Kurt deVries/FL
4/23/2008 9:01:39 AM (5626 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Barbara Bennett/IN
4/23/2008 12:58:02 PM (5695 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Michaela Urban/OH
4/23/2008 10:31:40 PM (5720 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 10:14:35 AM (5785 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/24/2008 10:39:38 AM (5751 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 11:08:48 AM (5527 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/24/2008 1:56:00 PM (5656 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 3:21:03 PM (5631 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/24/2008 5:03:26 PM (5669 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 5:45:37 PM (5446 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/24/2008 6:57:07 PM (5455 views)

Now why would I want to dispute what the county web site tells me? They say the records provided online and those found at the courhouse are not the same. They tell me the web records are not reliable. AND they tell me the web sites are not intended to be used for professional research. You can't set aside the disclaimers Steve, you agreed to them when you  signed the TOS. But your insurance carrier didn' t and neither did your clients unless you let them know.

Do you tell your customers that you know more than your source about  the accuracy of their web sites? Do you tell your E&O carrier that  you are using a source that can not be held accountable for any errors in their index?

I think when push comes to shove both your carrier and customers will consider it an error on your part that you choose and a source that acknowledges it is not reliable.

Yes, I know it's easy to access these sites Steve. I've accessed hundreds of sites all over the U.S. and without exception have always found the same lack of accountability. How else do you think I found Colin Powell's SSN on a Virginia county site or Tom Delay's SSN on a site in Texas. I've found tens of thousands of SSN's on county websites all over the country. Your right, it is incredibly easy! Anyone can do it.  Stalkers, Identity thieves, and terrorists are all finding it incredibly easy to pick up from the web what some county officials so carelessly provide at taxpayer expense.

I know how the web sites work Steve. I've gone through the process and read their disclaimers. I stopped short of giving them any money for access to a database that is known to be unreliable and can not be used for legal research.

I've also read your synopsis of the so-called security proceedures required to gain access. It is easy to see the web sites security procedures are designed to protect the company's interest in collecting subscription fees and not the interests of taxpayers or subscribers.  There is just no getting around it Steve, the disclaimers and Terms of Service agreements found on these web sites say it all. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

But if you are going to rely on these web sites in spite of their disclaimers, you really should let your customers and insurance provider know the risk you are asking them to take. That way they could pass the same disclaimer and lack of accountability on to their customers. They can decide if they are willing to take that risk with you in return for a report derived from a source that by their own admission is  unaccountable, irresponsible, inaccurate and not intended for use in any professional report.

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Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/24/2008 8:51:27 PM (5347 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Helene /GA
4/24/2008 10:18:22 PM (5278 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
4/27/2008 5:34:47 PM (5579 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/24/2008 11:01:14 PM (5358 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - michael quinn/NY
4/25/2008 7:40:46 PM (5362 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/25/2008 8:36:54 PM (5310 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - michael quinn/NY
4/26/2008 3:15:45 AM (5339 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/26/2008 7:20:21 AM (5446 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/26/2008 9:19:17 AM (5466 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/26/2008 3:49:08 PM (5346 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/27/2008 8:32:46 PM (8429 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/29/2008 12:01:41 PM (5233 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - michael quinn/NY
4/26/2008 11:05:07 AM (5302 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - David Bloys/TX
4/26/2008 10:59:39 AM (8216 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/28/2008 11:26:07 AM (5409 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Ron McPherson/IA
4/25/2008 8:37:44 PM (5419 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/25/2008 10:36:12 AM (5075 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Robert Franco/OH
4/25/2008 12:20:02 PM (5025 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/25/2008 1:43:15 PM (5170 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Robert Franco/OH
4/25/2008 2:25:14 PM (5116 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/25/2008 3:07:12 PM (5046 views)
I'm still suspicious - Robert Franco/OH
4/25/2008 3:27:01 PM (5219 views)
Re: I'm Even More Suspicious - Scott Perry/PA
4/25/2008 4:07:42 PM (5165 views)
Re: I'm still suspicious - Patrick Scott/IL
4/26/2008 6:14:05 PM (5509 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/28/2008 12:28:53 PM (5072 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/28/2008 1:24:21 PM (5192 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/28/2008 2:05:16 PM (5364 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
4/29/2008 1:48:44 PM (4810 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/29/2008 2:16:59 PM (5024 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/29/2008 3:15:15 PM (5146 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/29/2008 4:50:45 PM (4853 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
4/30/2008 12:03:32 AM (4733 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/30/2008 8:39:55 AM (6950 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
4/30/2008 12:22:45 PM (4847 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/30/2008 1:50:08 PM (5044 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - Scott Perry/PA
4/30/2008 4:57:45 PM (4876 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/30/2008 8:45:45 PM (4971 views)
Re: Gas Prices!!!!!!!! - J Nisonger/CA
4/30/2008 11:43:29 PM (4905 views)

Bertrum Group does not pay - Donna D'Amore/PA
4/21/2008 10:16:56 AM (5513 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Elizabeth Helman/PA
4/21/2008 6:28:20 PM (6023 views)
Re: Bertrum Group Does Not Pay - Donna D'Amore/PA
4/23/2008 12:15:48 PM (5990 views)
Re: Bertrum Group Does Not Pay - Elizabeth Helman/PA
4/25/2008 8:23:57 AM (5688 views)
Re: Bertrum Group Does Not Pay - george Hubka/MI
4/25/2008 10:36:42 PM (7360 views)
Re: Bertrum Group Does Not Pay - Donna D'Amore/PA
4/28/2008 11:15:32 AM (6046 views)
Re: Bertrum Group Does Not Pay - Donna D'Amore/PA
4/28/2008 11:14:26 AM (5937 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Thomas Conrad/PA
4/28/2008 7:11:58 PM (5738 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Sheryl Reese/PA
5/8/2008 8:45:36 AM (5657 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
5/8/2008 10:55:06 AM (5615 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Sheryl Reese/PA
5/8/2008 11:41:24 AM (5630 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Chloe Niglio/PA
5/9/2008 12:58:18 AM (5731 views)
Re: Bertrum Group does not pay - Lisa Rando/NJ
1/7/2009 7:38:11 PM (5296 views)




New Web Site - Slade Smith/OH
4/19/2008 11:03:47 PM (4207 views)
Re: New Web Site - Scott Perry/PA
4/19/2008 11:19:57 PM (5907 views)
Re: New Web Site - Robert Franco/OH
4/20/2008 1:02:10 AM (5811 views)
Re: New Web Site - Slade Smith/OH
4/20/2008 1:57:13 AM (5745 views)
Re: New Web Site - Ron McPherson/IA
4/20/2008 4:20:19 PM (5759 views)
Re: New Web Site - Mary Mitchel/NY
4/21/2008 8:12:48 AM (5758 views)
Re: New Web Site - Patrick Scott/IL
4/21/2008 9:57:46 AM (5728 views)
Re: New Web Site - Slade Smith/OH
4/22/2008 1:40:55 PM (5676 views)
Re: New Web Site - Jay Duncan/MO
4/21/2008 10:30:22 AM (5581 views)
Re: New Web Site - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/22/2008 6:13:03 PM (5600 views)
Re: New Web Site - Slade Smith/OH
4/23/2008 2:08:30 AM (5682 views)
Re: New Web Site - Mike Toebe/KS
4/22/2008 5:29:49 AM (5637 views)

United One Resources?? - Deborah Zitelli/PA
4/17/2008 8:05:19 PM (4558 views)
Re: United One Resources?? - John Glatthaar/NY
4/18/2008 4:24:00 AM (5985 views)
Re: United One Resources?? - Deborah Zitelli/PA
4/21/2008 7:56:50 AM (5864 views)
Re: United One Resources?? - Sheila Sten/PA
4/23/2008 2:06:37 PM (5919 views)
Re: United One Resources?? - Michaela Urban/OH
4/23/2008 10:33:49 PM (5803 views)

Cutting Expenses... - Robert Franco/OH
4/17/2008 9:51:07 AM (3995 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/17/2008 10:11:20 AM (5716 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/17/2008 11:29:23 AM (6048 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Ron McPherson/IA
4/18/2008 1:38:52 PM (5707 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Dorothy Payne/NY
4/21/2008 9:17:27 PM (5639 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Robert Franco/OH
4/21/2008 10:31:11 PM (5707 views)
Re: Cutting Expenses... - Dorothy Payne/NY
4/22/2008 4:16:21 PM (5613 views)

How to Get Paid - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/16/2008 12:18:14 PM (4108 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Ron McPherson/IA
4/16/2008 12:58:30 PM (6016 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Robert Franco/OH
4/16/2008 1:56:24 PM (5781 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Diane Cipa/PA
4/16/2008 4:52:22 PM (8553 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Diane Cipa/PA
4/17/2008 9:31:45 AM (5680 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - David Bloys/TX
4/17/2008 11:38:12 AM (5842 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Diane Cipa/PA
4/17/2008 5:03:27 PM (5746 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - J Nisonger/CA
4/18/2008 1:02:34 PM (5711 views)
Re: How to Get Paid - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/28/2008 7:31:05 PM (5916 views)

Housing Strain Felt Throughout EU - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
4/14/2008 3:51:35 PM (5729 views)
Re: Housing Strain Felt Throughout EU - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/15/2008 11:10:24 AM (5810 views)
Re: Housing Strain Felt Throughout EU - J Nisonger/CA
4/16/2008 6:38:46 PM (5707 views)
Re: Housing Strain Felt Throughout EU - Jarrod Clabaugh/OH
4/17/2008 11:15:15 AM (5862 views)
Re: Housing Strain Felt Throughout EU - J Nisonger/CA
4/18/2008 1:23:30 PM (5590 views)

"Claims Made" E&O Insurance - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/14/2008 11:29:04 AM (4101 views)
Re: "Claims Made" E&O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
4/14/2008 11:52:06 AM (6353 views)
Re: "Claims Made" E&O Insurance - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/14/2008 12:50:23 PM (6141 views)
Re: "Claims Made" E&O Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
4/14/2008 1:21:59 PM (6229 views)
Re: "Claims Made" E&O Insurance - Cheryl O'Brien/VA
4/14/2008 1:25:06 PM (6076 views)

Uncertified Special Assessments? - Michaela Urban/OH
4/14/2008 9:48:14 AM (4310 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - Steve Squeo/OH
4/14/2008 10:17:24 AM (6417 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - Michaela Urban/OH
4/14/2008 10:39:23 AM (6399 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/14/2008 2:58:48 PM (6174 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - Robert Franco/OH
4/14/2008 3:11:16 PM (6048 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/14/2008 5:14:48 PM (6294 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - george Hubka/MI
4/14/2008 9:07:39 PM (6306 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
4/14/2008 11:51:34 PM (6181 views)
Re: Uncertified Special Assessments? - Michaela Urban/OH
4/15/2008 6:05:49 PM (5943 views)

Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Phil McLean/CO
4/11/2008 11:18:03 AM (5978 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Robert Franco/OH
4/11/2008 11:30:05 AM (6377 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Barbara Bennett/IN
4/11/2008 1:27:49 PM (6354 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Jason Sheppard/PA
4/11/2008 4:41:50 PM (6396 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Sheila Sten/PA
4/14/2008 6:55:26 AM (6365 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Michaela Urban/OH
4/14/2008 9:51:56 AM (6576 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Pam Sola/VA
4/14/2008 10:45:26 AM (6352 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - Phil McLean/CO
4/14/2008 4:12:55 PM (6374 views)
Re: Service 1st Valuation & Settlement - george Hubka/MI
4/14/2008 9:15:12 PM (6353 views)

Cystic Fibrosis Event ~ Pittsburgh, PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
4/11/2008 7:04:07 AM (6305 views)
Re: Cystic Fibrosis Event ~ Pittsburgh, PA - Rob  Robinson/PA
4/11/2008 9:18:56 AM (5903 views)
Re: Cystic Fibrosis Event ~ Pittsburgh, PA - Jason Sheppard/PA
4/11/2008 4:46:05 PM (5975 views)

Just an idea and how hard would it be? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/10/2008 11:13:32 AM (4111 views)
Re: Just an idea and how hard would it be? - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2008 12:14:34 PM (5982 views)
Abstractor Paid & Listed on HUD-1 - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/10/2008 12:57:27 PM (6083 views)
Re: Just an idea and how hard would it be? - Jay Duncan/MO
4/11/2008 9:14:17 AM (5864 views)
Re: Just an idea and how hard would it be? - Robert Franco/OH
4/11/2008 11:28:07 AM (5811 views)
Re: Just an idea and how hard would it be? - Diane Brewer/SC
4/14/2008 9:38:14 AM (5924 views)


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