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article on the need for abstractors - Diane Cipa/PA
6/22/2008 11:24:52 AM (6378 views)
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Re: article on the need for abstractors - Rob  Robinson/PA
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Re: article on the need for abstractors - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: article on the need for abstractors - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/22/2008 9:15:38 PM (5683 views)
Re: article on the need for abstractors - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/23/2008 9:22:51 AM (5779 views)
Re: article on the need for abstractors - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
7/6/2008 12:55:26 AM (5554 views)
But... Oklahoma is different - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2008 1:12:52 PM (8235 views)
I posted my comments... - Robert Franco/OH
6/23/2008 1:46:05 PM (5697 views)
Re: I posted my comments... - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/24/2008 9:23:14 PM (5809 views)
Re: I posted my comments... - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/24/2008 10:21:53 PM (5679 views)
Re: I posted my comments... - Chuck Y/NY
6/25/2008 8:30:51 AM (5698 views)
Re: I posted my comments... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: I posted my comments... - Douglas Gallant/OH
6/25/2008 3:52:57 PM (5561 views)
Re: I posted my comments... - Scott Perry/PA
6/25/2008 4:12:39 PM (5719 views)

What are your thoughts... - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/21/2008 8:24:00 AM (3999 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - P Parrish/AL
6/21/2008 7:25:01 PM (5687 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - michael quinn/NY
6/22/2008 2:47:38 AM (5573 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
6/23/2008 9:25:14 AM (5536 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - Dan Zook/NY
6/25/2008 11:54:42 AM (5593 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/24/2008 7:29:06 AM (5547 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - Dan Zook/NY
6/25/2008 11:51:54 AM (5606 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - Scott Perry/PA
6/25/2008 12:22:13 PM (5604 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - charles jetter/OH
6/30/2008 7:24:50 AM (5467 views)
Re: What are your thoughts... - charles jetter/OH
6/30/2008 7:16:45 AM (5565 views)

Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - S. Mueller/IL
6/20/2008 7:26:43 PM (4412 views)
Re: Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - Amy Tatusko/VA
6/21/2008 8:56:59 AM (8214 views)
Re: Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - S.Mueller/IL
6/21/2008 1:54:36 PM (5708 views)
Re: Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - charles jetter/OH
6/24/2008 12:03:08 AM (5536 views)
Re: Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
6/30/2008 6:20:47 PM (5619 views)
Re: Non-paying Vendors : Action Plan Needed - KELLI SEVENLISS/NY
7/11/2008 10:44:59 AM (5501 views)

BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Susan Mueller/IL
6/20/2008 5:10:51 AM (4973 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/20/2008 11:20:18 AM (6014 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/20/2008 11:57:38 AM (5847 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Susan Mueller/IL
6/20/2008 6:44:18 PM (5844 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Susan Mueller/IL
6/20/2008 6:44:22 PM (5726 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/21/2008 6:47:27 AM (5746 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Dave Pell/GA
6/21/2008 8:11:49 AM (5818 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/21/2008 9:18:50 AM (5796 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Dave Pell/GA
6/22/2008 8:05:54 AM (5628 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Will Boyles/WI
6/23/2008 10:31:22 AM (5708 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
6/30/2008 8:55:51 AM (5451 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - george Hubka/MI
7/8/2008 7:50:22 PM (5737 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/8/2008 9:09:55 PM (5545 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - george Hubka/MI
7/10/2008 2:13:52 AM (5465 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/10/2008 5:51:23 AM (5513 views)
Re: BRB Abstracting, Inc.- Status - Patricia Ochs/WI
11/24/2008 6:36:56 PM (5814 views)

Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/19/2008 10:04:06 AM (4127 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/19/2008 10:19:04 AM (5679 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Robert Franco/OH
6/19/2008 11:18:17 AM (5565 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/19/2008 11:35:09 AM (5444 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - charles jetter/OH
6/24/2008 12:12:30 AM (5531 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Lucille Femine/NJ
6/29/2008 2:30:17 PM (5297 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Robert Franco/OH
6/29/2008 4:53:48 PM (5428 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - michael quinn/NY
6/19/2008 12:27:33 PM (5852 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Scott Perry/PA
6/19/2008 12:45:55 PM (5490 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - Kimberly Wheeler/MI
6/23/2008 5:10:09 PM (5490 views)
Re: Late fee inclusion on Invoices- How do we do it? - charles jetter/OH
7/7/2008 5:00:16 AM (5431 views)




Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/19/2008 7:50:27 AM (3922 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Jack Johnanson/PA
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Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kurt deVries/FL
6/25/2008 11:00:50 AM (5417 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/25/2008 12:50:09 PM (5432 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/25/2008 12:38:39 PM (5353 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Helene /GA
6/27/2008 8:22:58 AM (7813 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Scott Perry/PA
6/27/2008 12:33:17 PM (5561 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/27/2008 2:52:25 PM (5557 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Helene /GA
6/28/2008 10:42:01 AM (5250 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kurt deVries/FL
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Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Lisa Dahlquist/NC
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Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/3/2008 3:37:25 PM (5496 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/6/2008 7:17:20 AM (5339 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Scott Perry/PA
7/6/2008 8:39:40 AM (7983 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/6/2008 9:09:53 AM (5181 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Scott Perry/PA
7/9/2008 9:25:18 PM (7885 views)
Re: Pets...The Most Unfortunate Victims of the Foreclosure Disaster - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/10/2008 5:55:32 AM (5281 views)

Exclusive Settlement Services - Leigh Attridge/MA
6/18/2008 7:58:09 PM (4412 views)
Re: Exclusive Settlement Services - Scott Perry/PA
6/18/2008 11:47:48 PM (5703 views)
Re: Exclusive Settlement Services - Michele Horger/MI
6/23/2008 2:16:32 PM (5162 views)
Re: Exclusive Settlement Services - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
6/30/2008 6:22:29 PM (5208 views)

Beware of US Title in Knoxville TN! - Paul Hajacos/VA
6/18/2008 4:03:26 PM (4112 views)
Re: Beware of US Title in Knoxville TN! - P Parrish/AL
6/19/2008 11:37:36 AM (8594 views)
Re: Beware of US Title in Knoxville TN! - Vikki Moffitt/GA
6/19/2008 4:12:02 PM (5474 views)

Abstract Search Fees - Marie Watson/NJ
6/18/2008 7:17:42 AM (4591 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Loretta Reed/MD
6/18/2008 8:44:32 AM (5618 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Scott Perry/PA
6/18/2008 9:33:45 AM (5491 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Marie Watson/NJ
6/18/2008 11:08:12 AM (5490 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Loretta Reed/MD
6/18/2008 11:39:09 AM (5455 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Marie Watson/NJ
6/18/2008 12:37:47 PM (5562 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - martha campbell/VA
6/23/2008 6:52:11 AM (5208 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - William Pattison /CA
6/19/2008 1:39:43 PM (5227 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - michael quinn/NY
6/19/2008 6:28:10 PM (5195 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Robert Franco/OH
6/19/2008 6:42:38 PM (5315 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/19/2008 7:12:32 PM (5244 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - michael quinn/NY
6/19/2008 11:08:46 PM (5366 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Diane Cipa/PA
6/21/2008 5:42:36 PM (5295 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Loretta Reed/MD
6/21/2008 7:03:45 PM (5131 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Scott Perry/PA
6/21/2008 9:13:11 PM (5276 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Diane Cipa/PA
6/22/2008 11:20:48 AM (5100 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Robert Lint/PA
6/23/2008 5:44:27 AM (5095 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - charles jetter/OH
6/23/2008 8:27:03 AM (5194 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Matt Papsch/MD
6/23/2008 8:45:37 AM (5003 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Loretta Reed/MD
6/23/2008 9:40:09 AM (4863 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Matt Papsch/MD
6/23/2008 10:52:33 AM (4994 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Michaela Urban/OH
6/23/2008 11:21:44 AM (4925 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Rob  Robinson/PA
6/23/2008 11:55:36 AM (4937 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Michele Horger/MI
6/23/2008 2:12:21 PM (4907 views)
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6/23/2008 4:02:00 PM (4919 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Andrea Ford/KY
6/23/2008 7:53:48 PM (4924 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
6/23/2008 10:49:29 PM (4804 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - charles jetter/OH
6/24/2008 7:00:50 AM (4840 views)
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6/24/2008 10:12:56 AM (4809 views)
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6/24/2008 10:21:27 AM (4793 views)
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6/24/2008 11:15:03 AM (4755 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Diane Cipa/PA
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6/24/2008 3:30:14 PM (4940 views)
Re: Abstract Search Fees - Diane Cipa/PA
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Twenty Year Judgments in Favor of U.S. - Jeanine Johnson/FL
6/17/2008 10:57:36 AM (3848 views)
Re: Twenty Year Judgments in Favor of U.S. - Kevin Ahern/CT
6/17/2008 12:00:59 PM (5660 views)
Re: Twenty Year Judgments in Favor of U.S. - Diane Cipa/PA
6/17/2008 12:46:14 PM (5351 views)
Re: Twenty Year Judgments in Favor of U.S. - Robert Franco/OH
6/17/2008 3:58:16 PM (5894 views)

To be fair, the question specifically asked how far back one would search a particular name, not necessarily how far back the search of of the property should be ran.  I was specifically looking for a recognition that a Federal Tax Lien filed before an owner acquires title would still attach to the property.  Thus, it is important to search the individual parties before they acquired title to see if there is a Federal Tax Lien that may still be valid.

Though neither 26 USC §6321 (Federal Tax Lien) nor 28 USC §3201 (Federal Judgment Liens) specifically states that the liens attach to after-acquired property, courts have interpreted the Federal Tax Lien statute in such a way. 

§ 6321.  Lien for taxes.

If any person liable to pay any tax neglects or refuses to pay the same after demand, the amount (including any interest, additional amount, addition to tax, or assessable penalty, together with any costs that may accrue in addition thereto) shall be a lien in favor of the United States upon all property and rights to property, whether real or personal, belonging to such person.

§ 6322.  Period of lien.

Unless another date is specifically fixed by law, the lien imposed by section 6321  shall arise at the time the assessment is made and shall continue until the liability for the amount so assessed (or a judgment against the taxpayer arising out of such liability) is satisfied or becomes unenforceable by reason of lapse of time.

Here is what one Federal Court held:

That this expression is not limited to property possessed by the debtor at the time the distraint is laid is plainly indicated by the provision of the statute that the lien 'shall continue until the liability for such amount is satisfied or becomes unenforceable by reason of lapse of time,' an amendment made by § 613 of the Revenue Act of 1928. Formerly, the statute decreed that the lien was in effect 'until paid.' If the lien is not considered as applying to after acquired property, the amendment is meaningless, for the lien would continue in any event as to property owned when the lien arose."

In re Victor Brewing Co., 54 F. Supp. 11, 13 (W.D. Pa. 1944)

Further, the legislative history of the Code section indicates that Congress intended to provide the IRS with a way to collect taxes in the future when a taxpayer may have sufficient assets to collect the debt. 

On the other hand, 28 USC §3201 (Federal Judgment Liens) doesn't use the same language. 

§ 3201.  Judgment liens

(a) Creation. A judgment in a civil action shall create a lien on all real property of a judgment debtor on filing a certified copy of the abstract of the judgment in the manner in which a notice of tax lien would be filed under paragraphs (1) and (2) of section 6323(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986. A lien created under this paragraph is for the amount necessary to satisfy the judgment, including costs and interest.
 
(b) Priority of lien. A lien created under subsection (a) shall have priority over any other lien or encumbrance which is perfected later in time.

(c) Duration of lien; renewal.
   (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), a lien created under subsection (a) is effective, unless satisfied, for a period of 20 years.
   (2) Such lien may be renewed for one additional period of 20 years upon filing a notice of renewal in the same manner as the judgment is filed and shall relate back to the date the judgment is filed if--
      (A) the notice of renewal is filed before the expiration of the 20-year period to prevent the expiration of the lien; and
      (B) the court approves the renewal of such lien under this paragraph.

I haven't been able to find any interpretation that these judgment liens attach to after-acquired property.  I think it is probably a fair interpretation that these liens create a lien on real property that the debtor owns at the time of filing.  But, if anyone has any other information regarding Federal Judgment Liens, I'd be interested in learning more.

Though it is certainly important to look for these liens, I don't believe that they have the same characteristics as Federal Tax Liens and they should be found in the ordinary course of a search. Federal Judgment Liens do seem to be much more rare than Federal Tax Liens.  I don't think we have ever come across one in our counties.  Perhaps that is why I had such a difficult time finding any information on them.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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