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First Choice Title Services? - Lisa Dahlquist/NC
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modification companies - michael quinn/NY
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Work picking up? - Mandy Harmon/SC
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I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
10/21/2008 11:57:54 AM (4147 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Patrick Scott/IL
10/21/2008 10:48:20 PM (5853 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
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Re: I am curious about other states. - LORIE LEHMAN/PA
10/27/2008 12:52:59 PM (5639 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Diane Cipa/PA
10/28/2008 3:48:48 PM (5601 views)
Re: I am curious about other states. - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/29/2008 2:05:39 PM (8009 views)

A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/21/2008 12:11:44 AM (4167 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Diane Cipa/PA
10/22/2008 11:14:54 AM (5578 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Kurt deVries/FL
10/22/2008 11:28:39 AM (5538 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - john rutledge/VA
10/27/2008 9:34:29 AM (5405 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/27/2008 12:45:32 PM (5425 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Thomas Conrad/PA
10/28/2008 2:32:10 PM (5203 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Patrick/NY
10/28/2008 2:48:50 PM (5207 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/28/2008 4:59:05 PM (5157 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Christopher Slone/KY
10/29/2008 12:13:44 AM (5148 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jean Allen/NC
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2008 4:04:45 PM (5157 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
10/30/2008 10:29:24 AM (5109 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
10/30/2008 11:16:53 AM (5176 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Thomas Conrad/PA
11/18/2008 10:48:44 AM (5406 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/18/2008 2:56:58 PM (5416 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
10/29/2008 8:41:31 PM (5054 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Jack Johanson/PA
11/3/2008 11:15:33 AM (5172 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2008 2:00:08 PM (5035 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/5/2008 3:09:15 PM (5099 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/5/2008 11:18:38 PM (5106 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/6/2008 12:37:14 PM (5138 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
11/6/2008 9:29:43 PM (5050 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/7/2008 12:54:56 PM (4982 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/7/2008 6:24:23 PM (5002 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/12/2008 9:17:51 AM (5155 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/12/2008 6:04:20 PM (5043 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
11/18/2008 2:53:19 AM (4969 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
11/18/2008 12:13:44 PM (5418 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Helene /GA
11/12/2008 8:07:21 PM (5357 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/12/2008 2:23:43 PM (5105 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
11/12/2008 2:55:10 PM (5088 views)
Re: A Look On The Bright Side - michael quinn/NY
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: A Look On The Bright Side - Clanci Nelson/OH
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Tax Sales & John Beck - Helene /GA
10/20/2008 10:47:46 PM (4512 views)
Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Elizabeth Helman/PA
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Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Diana Little/MS
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Re: Tax Sales & John Beck - Helene /GA
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Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Angela Johnson/NC
10/20/2008 3:55:42 PM (4480 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Michael Vernon/AZ
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Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Loretta Reed/MD
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Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/21/2008 8:03:17 AM (5824 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Thomas Conrad/PA
10/21/2008 9:42:00 AM (5764 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - J Nisonger/CA
10/21/2008 9:24:27 PM (5869 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - robbin roseberry/OH
10/22/2008 3:10:49 PM (5803 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - sharon biltcliffe/CT
10/23/2008 7:14:23 PM (5848 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
10/23/2008 7:25:51 PM (5835 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Kenneth/TX
10/24/2008 4:51:06 PM (5851 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a chec - Michael O'Brien/NJ
10/28/2008 6:50:24 PM (5481 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Michael Morton/MI
10/27/2008 10:55:54 AM (5677 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - Edward Huguenin/SC
10/27/2008 5:06:15 PM (5637 views)
Re: Can someone help with Infinity International Processing Services. They stopped payment on a check. - george Hubka/MI
10/27/2008 7:22:42 PM (5568 views)

Fax and Phone Vendors? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
10/18/2008 2:08:31 PM (4236 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Scott Perry/PA
10/18/2008 3:39:22 PM (5717 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
10/18/2008 3:52:03 PM (5848 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Robert Franco/OH
10/18/2008 4:09:49 PM (9661 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - J Nisonger/CA
10/18/2008 10:55:46 PM (5630 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Helene/GA
10/19/2008 12:11:01 AM (5775 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Keith Edwards/NY
10/20/2008 1:41:58 AM (5958 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - S SEE/SC
10/20/2008 8:44:50 AM (5719 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/20/2008 9:29:53 AM (5969 views)
Re: Fax and Phone Vendors? - Bill Garrett/MS
10/20/2008 1:27:55 PM (5717 views)

Input on Integration 4.0 - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
10/18/2008 2:03:02 PM (3891 views)
Re: Input on Integration 4.0 - Robert Battle/NC
10/27/2008 1:09:38 PM (5421 views)

Leeches are still out there! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 10:54:45 AM (4234 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/17/2008 12:43:44 PM (5975 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Robert Franco/OH
10/17/2008 1:31:52 PM (5958 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kurt deVries/FL
10/17/2008 5:06:56 PM (5795 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Kimberly Gray/AR
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Re: Leeches are still out there! - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/17/2008 3:13:37 PM (5775 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Robert Breakell/CT
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Re: Leeches are still out there! - Jean Allen/NC
10/17/2008 5:13:04 PM (5787 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
10/19/2008 11:06:32 AM (5719 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Gary Capello/OH
10/27/2008 9:03:44 AM (5710 views)
Re: Leeches are still out there! - Miriam Rolles/IN
10/27/2008 1:08:45 PM (5378 views)

Social Security & DL info in recordings - Glenda Hodge/TN
10/16/2008 5:58:46 PM (3775 views)
Social Security, DL & medical information - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/17/2008 8:21:35 AM (5829 views)
Re: Social Security & DL info in recordings - David Bloys/TX
10/19/2008 4:25:51 AM (5485 views)
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10/22/2008 6:52:45 AM (5397 views)

Washington Mutual Thief amoung us! - Miriam Shoaff/IN
10/16/2008 10:40:45 AM (5774 views)
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Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Aduddell/MO
10/16/2008 10:03:06 AM (3846 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - J Nisonger/CA
10/17/2008 1:23:32 AM (5262 views)
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
10/20/2008 9:26:27 AM (5259 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Kurt deVries/FL
10/20/2008 11:33:50 AM (5225 views)
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10/20/2008 1:21:36 PM (5272 views)
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Robert Franco/OH
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10/20/2008 7:34:15 PM (5206 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - michael quinn/NY
10/21/2008 10:31:21 PM (5045 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Patrick Scott/IL
10/20/2008 8:52:36 PM (5083 views)
Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Government BailOut - Work???? - Robert Franco/OH
10/21/2008 12:21:25 AM (5090 views)

Good point.  But, to play devil's advocate for a moment, what about the 6th Amendment right to counsel?  That would be one example of a right to the service of another. 

6th Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

Quite arguably, the founders did not intend that to mean the right to a free lawyer, but the Supreme Court has had a more expansive view.  In the 1930's, attorneys were only provided in capital cases to those defendants who could not afford one and were not capable of defending themselves.  Then it was expanded to all defendants in federal courts who were too poor to hire an attorney.  Now it applies equally in state courts for any defendant facing jail time.

Of course, the attorneys get paid, so there is no involuntary servitude issue.  Same would apply to health care; we would not expect the doctors to actually work for free. The government would pick up the tab, just as it does for the attorneys.

I don't think you can quite get to involuntary servitude through taxation to pay for health care, either.  The Taxing and Spending Clause of Art. 1, sec. 8 allows the government to do just about anything with tax dollars.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States

That "general welfare" provision is pretty gosh darned broad.  If Congress were to decide that taxpayer funded health care was for the general welfare of the United States, I'm sure they could do it.  It wouldn't even have to be considered a fundamental right. 

Personally, I tend to agree with Pat, that health care is not a right.  However, the Supreme Court has recognized several rights that aren't specifically enumerated in the Constitution - such as the right to marry, the right to procreate, the freedom of movement, and when and where to acquire an education.  I don't think I would be shocked if they added health care to the list one of these days.

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Robert A. Franco
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