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[-] Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA (164 replies)
9/5/2008 10:51:13 AM (4838 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 1:31:35 PM (3239 views)
Required Reading? - Robert Franco/OH
9/5/2008 1:41:19 PM (3304 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 1:45:44 PM (3246 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kurt deVries/FL
9/5/2008 2:16:30 PM (3246 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:01:37 PM (3197 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 2:25:05 PM (5987 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 2:34:25 PM (3152 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 2:44:43 PM (3145 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 3:05:21 PM (3200 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 4:46:25 PM (3176 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:15:20 PM (3181 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:24:19 PM (3096 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:32:19 PM (3182 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:33:48 PM (3069 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Robert Franco/OH
9/5/2008 8:04:22 PM (3147 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 9:21:21 PM (3189 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2008 12:06:31 AM (3186 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 1:35:16 AM (3229 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2008 11:24:59 AM (3094 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 1:24:11 PM (3141 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2008 2:29:34 PM (3015 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 2:55:09 PM (3121 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kurt deVries/FL
9/8/2008 5:05:24 PM (3003 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 7:03:37 PM (2863 views)
Re: Required Reading? - george Hubka/MI
9/28/2008 6:33:11 PM (3072 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 3:11:42 AM (3082 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Robert Franco/OH
9/6/2008 11:37:09 AM (3198 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 5:32:58 PM (3086 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 3:13:26 AM (3096 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 10:16:31 PM (2996 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2008 7:30:00 AM (3201 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 1:37:06 PM (3003 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2008 2:27:42 PM (3049 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 2:57:19 PM (2935 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 3:30:21 PM (3086 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/7/2008 4:56:41 AM (2869 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Janis Talbot/SC
9/7/2008 11:44:22 AM (3059 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/6/2008 4:33:21 PM (3118 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 5:01:21 PM (2999 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 5:10:09 PM (2862 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/7/2008 8:47:00 AM (2911 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/7/2008 6:19:44 PM (3053 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 12:16:09 AM (2912 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 8:00:21 AM (2846 views)

You are grasping at straws. Please cite the page of the ruling upon which you rely in the Perpich v. DOD, Supra. As I understand the decisive utterance a  governor's refusal to consent to a federal activation of the guard is a matter Congressional accommodation only...not a matter of right vested in the state governments. As cited above...Congress can  withdraw the gubernatorial veto without danger of constitutional violation. The court clearly explained the limitation placed on governors by the Montgomery Amendment. As such Governor Rell or Palin do in fact have little to say about it in the event that her state's air national guard is activated by the federal government as a first line of defense by federal government. I believe that was the issue that gave rise to this discussion. Can you even conceive of a scenario in which a state governor took it upon himself/herself to launch a wing of the state's Air National Guard against a foreign nation?

Yours and Anita's concepts of what a free society should be are absolutely frightening. It sounds more like something out of  "l984" ( I am talking about the novel...not the year)... or possibly more reminiscent of a line from "Cool Hand Luke" ..."gonna git ya mind right, boy".

We do not have thought control in this country, nor Soviet style gulags to detain political prisoners. We do not burn books which do not conform to approved government political philosophy as was the case in central Europe 1933 to 1945. We do not penalize individuals for crimes that they might commit in the future simply because our legal system requires a combination of two elements Mens Rea (criminal intent) and Actus Reus (criminal act). We do permit citizens to believe pretty much anything they like...even your rather extreme right wing concepts. If you and Anita have a problem with a teacher wrongfully influencing "young impressionable minds" join you local boards of education , and voice your opinions with the majority when a teacher fails to teach the school's curriculum.

Actually I am not a left winger...neither Republican nor Democrat..simply someone who likes to consider all the options. However, from your extreme right wing position I can understand how it appears to be left of center.

" Brush up on my history?" I see. Well, that line is becoming a little shop worn. It would appear that anyone that differs with your position needs to brush up on the topic of discussion. It is true that the Vienna Summit set in motion the events that resulted in the Cuban Missile Crisis. However, I think that Kennedy was masterful in his response to the potential conflict. He had advocates of a surgical air strike on the missile positions...advocates of a full invasion of Cuba ...and advocates of a diplomatic resolution...all set in the back drop of possible nuclear war. There were meetings with the responsible members of the cabinet and the joint chiefs with conflicting advice. He was successful in gaining a consensus of cabinet members which resulted in a resolution of the problem short of war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 10:57:16 AM (2844 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 11:51:50 AM (2852 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 12:57:23 PM (2846 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 1:41:50 PM (2691 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 2:05:26 PM (4847 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 2:30:53 PM (2611 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 3:46:53 PM (2660 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 4:18:14 PM (2682 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 4:59:45 PM (2644 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 5:34:15 PM (2549 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 6:19:58 PM (2592 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 5:00:19 PM (2458 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 5:39:49 PM (2691 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/8/2008 6:22:33 PM (2618 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/8/2008 7:06:45 PM (2545 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/9/2008 10:04:46 AM (2525 views)
Re: Required Reading? - monica froese/ME
9/8/2008 6:33:01 PM (2525 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/8/2008 12:49:58 PM (2580 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 7:18:13 PM (2460 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 5:44:03 AM (2759 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2008 8:50:04 AM (2721 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 6:52:16 PM (2650 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/6/2008 10:05:58 PM (2898 views)
Re: Required Reading? - michael quinn/NY
9/6/2008 11:16:10 PM (2640 views)
Re: Required Reading? - charles jetter/OH
9/8/2008 7:15:38 AM (2592 views)
Re: Required Reading? - john rutledge/VA
9/8/2008 10:29:08 AM (2701 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 5:50:39 PM (2459 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2008 8:43:19 PM (2565 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 11:10:03 PM (2502 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 12:12:36 AM (2640 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2008 3:32:14 PM (2547 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 9:58:46 PM (2740 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 2:45:55 PM (2754 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 3:06:41 PM (2618 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 4:53:15 PM (2734 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 4:48:37 PM (2588 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:06:07 PM (2606 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:08:28 PM (2615 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:10:47 PM (2807 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:12:30 PM (2540 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 5:54:22 PM (2445 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2008 8:53:12 PM (2715 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 11:19:54 PM (2503 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2008 11:35:46 PM (2666 views)
Re: Required Reading? - J Nisonger/CA
9/10/2008 12:00:06 AM (2569 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/10/2008 12:55:28 AM (2454 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/9/2008 10:20:53 PM (2479 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:18:42 PM (2569 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 4:54:46 PM (2729 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:02:54 PM (2697 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:06:18 PM (2712 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:08:24 PM (2695 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:09:55 PM (2620 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:12:05 PM (2683 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:14:11 PM (2632 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:16:22 PM (2599 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 5:25:38 PM (2536 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/5/2008 5:35:40 PM (2579 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Anita Backlund/MN
9/5/2008 10:21:38 PM (4499 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Scott Perry/PA
9/5/2008 11:03:14 PM (2581 views)
Re: Required Reading? - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/6/2008 7:58:35 AM (2845 views)
Re: Required Reading? - charles jetter/OH
9/8/2008 7:37:51 AM (2564 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - john rutledge/VA
9/8/2008 11:23:40 AM (2690 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 4:17:30 PM (2688 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2008 4:20:12 PM (2577 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 4:22:41 PM (2594 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - john rutledge/VA
9/8/2008 7:35:41 PM (2619 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA
9/8/2008 8:13:01 PM (2512 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - john rutledge/VA
9/8/2008 11:47:04 PM (2556 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2008 6:56:02 AM (2370 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - J Nisonger/CA
9/9/2008 6:24:30 PM (2486 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Scott Perry/PA
9/9/2008 8:32:11 PM (2664 views)
Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Anita Backlund/MN
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Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - michael quinn/NY
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Re: Your Tax Dollars at Work - Kevin Ahern/CT
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