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Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/24/2008 3:57:44 PM (5785 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Kyle Steele/FL
12/29/2008 10:56:53 AM (6334 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/29/2008 9:53:26 PM (11619 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Kyle Steele/FL
1/5/2009 11:04:06 AM (6012 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/5/2009 8:18:02 PM (6214 views)
Re: Transtar National Title Beware - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:12:52 AM (6054 views)

Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 12:35:51 PM (6655 views)
Whoops...Sorry about the double post. n/m - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 2:00:22 PM (5863 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Kurt deVries/FL
12/26/2008 10:52:39 AM (5864 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/26/2008 1:28:15 PM (6262 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:49:15 PM (6232 views)

Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 12:34:40 PM (7391 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Patrick Scott/IL
12/23/2008 11:05:39 PM (5876 views)

Field Notes - Ellen Maher/MI
12/23/2008 10:34:35 AM (3987 views)
Re: Field Notes - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2008 10:45:41 AM (5864 views)
Re: Field Notes - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:27:43 PM (6042 views)
Re: Field Notes - David Keeling/TX
12/29/2008 12:35:08 PM (5938 views)
Re: Field Notes - William Pattison /CA
12/29/2008 1:48:56 PM (5821 views)
Re: Field Notes - Ray Young/GA
1/30/2009 1:00:19 PM (5319 views)

Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:47:07 AM (4162 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/22/2008 12:11:39 PM (8497 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/22/2008 4:05:28 PM (5899 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:42:43 PM (6002 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:16:57 PM (5798 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:08:58 PM (5919 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/27/2008 9:29:25 AM (5739 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:07:49 AM (5785 views)




GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
12/22/2008 10:00:45 AM (4728 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 11:23:15 AM (6083 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - george Hubka/MI
1/24/2009 10:48:31 PM (5857 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/26/2009 1:13:53 PM (5584 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:48:11 PM (5469 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/27/2009 3:33:41 PM (5641 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:49:37 PM (5588 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Donna Stovall/NY
12/29/2008 12:57:08 PM (5745 views)

Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 7:22:48 AM (4133 views)
Re: Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 8:48:42 AM (5949 views)
This might take some time ... - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 9:11:48 AM (5972 views)
Re: This might take some time ... - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 5:27:17 PM (5608 views)

New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/21/2008 8:26:40 PM (4106 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Jennifer Coffey/VA
12/23/2008 1:09:32 AM (5840 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/23/2008 8:56:06 PM (5950 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Julia Walker/KS
1/5/2009 12:29:34 PM (5869 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Denise Lippolis /NY
2/28/2009 12:27:39 PM (5611 views)

REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (4150 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/18/2008 8:23:55 PM (5741 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/19/2008 10:48:57 AM (5850 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jeffrey Pettit/PA
4/21/2010 10:06:22 AM (5388 views)

Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (4174 views)
Re: Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - Arthur Rosenbaum/PA
12/30/2008 9:55:54 AM (5764 views)

Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4275 views)
Re: Legacy Title (Indiana) - Scott Joest/IN
12/22/2008 10:37:17 AM (5761 views)

Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4496 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5929 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5947 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5739 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (5541 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5939 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (5561 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (5534 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (5499 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (5622 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (5418 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (5293 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (5479 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (5286 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (5512 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (5371 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5851 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (5436 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (5449 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (5418 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (5542 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (5429 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (5284 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (5127 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (5177 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (5267 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (5145 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (5126 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (5248 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (5103 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (7361 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (5176 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (5316 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (5054 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (5346 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (5083 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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