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Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL
12/23/2008 12:34:40 PM (7357 views)
Re: Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Patrick Scott/IL
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Field Notes - Ellen Maher/MI
12/23/2008 10:34:35 AM (3964 views)
Re: Field Notes - Robert Franco/OH
12/23/2008 10:45:41 AM (5786 views)
Re: Field Notes - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:27:43 PM (5919 views)
Re: Field Notes - David Keeling/TX
12/29/2008 12:35:08 PM (5861 views)
Re: Field Notes - William Pattison /CA
12/29/2008 1:48:56 PM (5745 views)
Re: Field Notes - Ray Young/GA
1/30/2009 1:00:19 PM (5242 views)

Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:47:07 AM (4149 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/22/2008 12:11:39 PM (8359 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/22/2008 4:05:28 PM (5852 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/23/2008 12:42:43 PM (5953 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:16:57 PM (5758 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC
12/26/2008 9:08:58 PM (5863 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Edward Huguenin/SC
12/27/2008 9:29:25 AM (5688 views)
Re: Richard Bolen - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 9:07:49 AM (5732 views)

GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
12/22/2008 10:00:45 AM (4707 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 11:23:15 AM (6030 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - george Hubka/MI
1/24/2009 10:48:31 PM (5807 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/26/2009 1:13:53 PM (5545 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:48:11 PM (5415 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/27/2009 3:33:41 PM (5585 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT
1/26/2009 5:49:37 PM (5539 views)
Re: GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Donna Stovall/NY
12/29/2008 12:57:08 PM (5704 views)

Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 7:22:48 AM (4110 views)
Re: Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 8:48:42 AM (5899 views)
This might take some time ... - Dan Zook/NY
12/22/2008 9:11:48 AM (5921 views)
Re: This might take some time ... - Slade Smith/OH
12/22/2008 5:27:17 PM (5562 views)




New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/21/2008 8:26:40 PM (4087 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Jennifer Coffey/VA
12/23/2008 1:09:32 AM (5788 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
12/23/2008 8:56:06 PM (5850 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Julia Walker/KS
1/5/2009 12:29:34 PM (5820 views)
Re: New York Title Abstract - Denise Lippolis /NY
2/28/2009 12:27:39 PM (5568 views)

REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (4128 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/18/2008 8:23:55 PM (5691 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
12/19/2008 10:48:57 AM (5795 views)
Re: REFERENCES ON ABG - Jeffrey Pettit/PA
4/21/2010 10:06:22 AM (5343 views)

Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (4157 views)
Re: Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - Arthur Rosenbaum/PA
12/30/2008 9:55:54 AM (5717 views)

Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4262 views)
Re: Legacy Title (Indiana) - Scott Joest/IN
12/22/2008 10:37:17 AM (5709 views)

Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4478 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5875 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5887 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5679 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (5488 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5871 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (5501 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (5476 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (5459 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (5557 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (5365 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (5235 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (5431 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (5233 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (5464 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (5316 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5785 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (5388 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (5394 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (5367 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (5492 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (5379 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (5238 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (5083 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (5124 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (5275 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (5371 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (7981 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (5075 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (5334 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (5254 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (5126 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (5206 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (5087 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (5075 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (5201 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (5051 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (7317 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (5122 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (5266 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (5006 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (5295 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (5022 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (5013 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN
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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! - HEIDI CIMA/PA
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