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American Abstract - Constance Foye/VA
1/13/2009 10:08:02 AM (3378 views)
Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
1/13/2009 10:25:52 AM (4510 views)
Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/13/2009 10:55:51 AM (4616 views)

Fidelity Title - CHRISTIE NIELSEN/ID
1/12/2009 1:56:37 PM (2913 views)

National TitleNet - Samantha Martin/AL
1/12/2009 11:11:36 AM (2795 views)

Old Republic Title - J Allen/NC
1/9/2009 5:27:51 PM (4284 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/9/2009 9:00:43 PM (5132 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - CD/AL
1/12/2009 7:32:23 AM (4964 views)
Color me jealous! - Dan Zook/NY
1/12/2009 10:45:10 AM (4893 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 8:56:46 AM (5174 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:49:08 AM (5120 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - Sheila Sten/PA
1/12/2009 11:55:58 AM (4901 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:25:05 PM (4884 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:58:36 PM (4917 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - Jean Allen/NC
1/14/2009 11:19:03 AM (4615 views)

25 year searches - john rutledge/VA
1/9/2009 8:41:33 AM (3740 views)
Re: 25 year searches - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/9/2009 12:20:25 PM (4895 views)
Re: 25 year searches - martha campbell/VA
1/12/2009 7:55:56 AM (4749 views)
Re: 25 year searches - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:02:53 AM (4674 views)
Re: 25 year searches - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 11:21:10 AM (4663 views)
david keeling - Kevin Curtiss/AL
1/18/2009 9:46:13 PM (4743 views)
Re: david keeling - David Keeling/TX
1/26/2009 9:24:45 PM (4558 views)
Re: david keeling - Kevin Curtiss/AL
1/26/2009 10:20:22 PM (4885 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:55:00 AM (4493 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:58:44 AM (4585 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Robert Franco/OH
1/12/2009 12:19:13 PM (4583 views)
Secret Shopper - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 12:56:53 PM (4659 views)
Re: 25 year searches - CHRISTIE NIELSEN/ID
1/12/2009 1:49:13 PM (4579 views)
Re: 25 year searches - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
1/24/2009 11:05:14 AM (4439 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Tracy /PA
1/29/2009 4:02:43 PM (4537 views)




Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
1/8/2009 7:45:53 PM (3566 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Nils Nelson/ME
1/8/2009 8:14:20 PM (4864 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
1/9/2009 3:40:15 PM (4668 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:36:07 PM (4533 views)

Data Retrieval Services - Susan McKee/WV
1/8/2009 2:52:00 PM (3615 views)
Re: Data Retrieval Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/8/2009 8:26:18 PM (4514 views)
Re: Data Retrieval Services - Susan McKee/WV
1/8/2009 8:53:56 PM (4835 views)

Accurate Group- PA - Patrick/NY
1/8/2009 1:39:12 PM (3590 views)
Re: Accurate Group- PA - Samantha Martin/AL
1/12/2009 11:09:01 AM (4680 views)
Re: Accurate Group- PA - Tracy/PA
1/29/2009 4:06:04 PM (4344 views)

COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
1/8/2009 11:49:41 AM (3993 views)
Re: COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:41:40 AM (4769 views)
Re: COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Michael Vernon/AZ
1/12/2009 1:18:46 PM (4996 views)

What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 11:17:51 AM (3515 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 11:39:08 AM (4804 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 12:12:10 PM (4659 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 12:49:49 PM (4564 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/8/2009 2:12:29 PM (4514 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 3:53:48 PM (4401 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 4:01:49 PM (4292 views)
It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2009 6:36:46 PM (4364 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 8:27:20 PM (4406 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2009 11:44:54 PM (4394 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 10:41:35 AM (4366 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 11:35:59 AM (4288 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 1:04:37 PM (4295 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:21:48 PM (4534 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 1:48:00 PM (4233 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:22:17 PM (4298 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:31:29 PM (4247 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:55:15 PM (4183 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:37:15 PM (4367 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:03:22 PM (6309 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:45:46 PM (4168 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:58:45 PM (6634 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 4:32:03 PM (4323 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 11:39:16 AM (4095 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 1:00:19 PM (4345 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 1:21:44 PM (4399 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 1:17:45 PM (4261 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 2:54:57 PM (4418 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:29:50 PM (4432 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 4:16:47 PM (6978 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/16/2009 3:02:53 PM (4336 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2009 3:07:53 PM (4286 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 3:09:19 PM (4751 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 4:10:20 PM (4357 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 4:16:48 PM (4263 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - michael quinn/NY
1/12/2009 2:59:55 PM (4313 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:42:41 PM (4331 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - michael quinn/NY
1/12/2009 4:41:31 PM (4341 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:47:25 PM (4150 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/11/2009 7:55:24 PM (4155 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 7:59:05 PM (4305 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Patrick Scott/IL
1/8/2009 8:29:46 PM (4123 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 10:10:39 PM (4280 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 10:55:16 AM (4122 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/9/2009 4:42:03 PM (4061 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:52:53 PM (4382 views)

What were they thinking... - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 12:04:47 AM (3677 views)
Re: What were they thinking... - Deborah Manion/VA
1/8/2009 1:25:14 PM (4637 views)
Re: What were they thinking... - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:30:12 PM (4327 views)

Title Stream - Rich Martin/ME
1/7/2009 9:46:53 PM (4206 views)
Re: Title Stream - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:23:29 PM (4812 views)
Re: Title Stream - no relation to TS Associates - Dan Zook/NY
1/8/2009 11:32:26 AM (4844 views)

A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/7/2009 1:28:03 PM (3673 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 4:16:24 PM (4541 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2009 4:19:36 PM (4508 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 4:26:05 PM (4812 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 6:54:28 PM (4596 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2009 8:32:11 PM (4519 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 10:10:59 PM (4616 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 10:10:57 PM (4600 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 10:11:46 PM (4755 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2009 10:40:55 AM (4602 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2009 12:06:43 PM (4484 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2009 12:45:30 PM (4390 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/17/2009 8:05:14 PM (4424 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/19/2009 2:13:27 PM (4464 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Tracy/PA
1/29/2009 4:10:40 PM (4327 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
2/25/2009 11:20:50 PM (4211 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
4/5/2009 8:05:01 AM (4111 views)
update A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
7/30/2009 1:51:58 PM (4823 views)

scope of search beginning date - Nathan Miller/KY
1/6/2009 7:54:26 PM (3612 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - THURBER & ASSOCIATES INC THURBER/ME
1/6/2009 9:34:28 PM (4691 views)
Start date ... - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/7/2009 7:55:36 AM (4885 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:02:10 AM (4735 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 1:43:09 PM (4873 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Patrick Scott/IL
1/7/2009 11:06:09 PM (4856 views)

I'm in Robert's camp on this one.  I don't think there is really any need for a start date.  And, as Nathan mentioned in his original post, it could cause a recipient to question whether judgments have been searched for the proper number of years.

In my opinion, a search for open liens, whether it be a current owner, two owner, or any other limited search, should arrive at the customer showing all open liens.  This, to me, means that the abstractor searches to an acceptable point of beginning - even if it means searching back through the records of a prior owner.  It's not often around here, but we still occasionally run across an assumed mortgage. More often, I think, a mortgage recorded out of sequence.  The only exception I would place on that rule is in the event that the customer specifically requested a date to run forward.  I would then note those instructions on the search.

I am curious as to why a state's being a race-notice state would have any bearing on either your start date or your end date.  I think in most jurisdictions a lower document number would indicate priority in recording, would it not?  And, many counties, if not most or all, even stamp the time of recording on the document.  In our local counties, we use the cover date certified by the recorder.  This indicates that the recorder has posted all documents recorded up to the end of that day.  So, I guess that might be why I never have given the race-notice wrinkle any thought in that regard.  What's there is there as of the closing of the recorder's office on that given date.

As an aside, I believe that most states are now race-notice.  Illinois is one of them.  That doesn't stop the recorders in the larger counties from establishing their own recording priorities.  For example, large stacks of deeds and mortgages delivered by a title company may sit in the 'things to do eventually' basket, while a person can also walk up to the recording counter with a small number of instruments and see them recorded on the spot.  Hmmmm.

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Re: scope of search beginning date - David Keeling/TX
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Re: scope of search beginning date - William Pattison /CA
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Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
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Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/6/2009 5:36:15 PM (4024 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Eric Paluselli/NC
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Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
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Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:40:50 PM (4492 views)
Re: Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
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